Since you guys seem to be so great at pointing out "PERCEIVED" Spurs weaknesses, I'm going to try the HONESTY CARD and see what comes out of LAL Fan grill.
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Since you guys seem to be so great at pointing out "PERCEIVED" Spurs weaknesses, I'm going to try the HONESTY CARD and see what comes out of LAL Fan grill.
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You've really opened the door for the gravy train now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Man In Black
lakers hide the steroids taped up underneath the third bench in the home locker room. if somebody can confiscate it, lakers will play like they did in 06 again
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Originally Posted by sananspursfan21
CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT HOUSE & other LAL ILK WILL SAY.
Will they come in with ACTUAL takes?
I'm not a Nazi Follower(Laker fan), but I'll give a few..
Laker players have temper/comprehension issues..for example..
Temper/Comprehension Example #1..When a White woman from Colorado says "I'll show you to your room, and show you around the area"..she does not mean, "I want to come to your room, and I want you to choke and fuck me Kobe Bryant"..
Comprehension Example #2..When the police asks you to tell them YOUR side of the story, they don't mean snitching on and involving Shaq when he has nothing to do with the issue at hand.."Man..I fucked up by raping that girl..how can I make this look a little better for myself?..Oh I know, I'll just tell them Shaq pays off girls just in case..that's what the cops meant by telling them my side of the story, right?"..
Temper Example #2..When you get in an argument with your spouse, you don't beat the fuck out of her..Ron Artest..that's not how civilized people handle those types of situations..
Temper Example #3..When your dogs are whining and moaning, they're probably hungry or want some attention, or need to be walked..so you don't beat the fuck out of them..Ron Artest..that's not how civilized people handle those types of situations..
Comprehension Example #3..When you demand to be traded to a team that can contend, but you have a no trade clause and refuse to be traded when the other team's best players are included in the deal..makes a lot of sense, doesn't it Kobe?..you can't have everything you want princess..
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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
fckn lakers HAQuote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
where are these trolls, if you need them?
maybe just spaming a blair/jefferson/dyess thread?
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Originally Posted by mudyez
Just as I thought...All those enemy LAL fans who have so much to say about the HOME team here, just shriveled up like cold testicles and went MUTE. :rollin
well, West Coast time is 2 hours behind you guys... they're probably still asleep, I just woke up. It's very tiring being a douchebag and keeping your polo shirt collar popped at just the right angle.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...-douchebag.jpg
An honest Laker Fan will tell you that they have a glaring weakness at PG. As good as they are, they are susceptible to dribble penetration by quick pg's.
They will also tell you that they are a bit nervous to see how Ron Artest fits in to Trevor Ariza's spot on the roster. Although Trevor was not as experienced or as tough as Artest, he also took smart shots and new that this was Kobe's team. Will Artest be a good teammate ?
They will also tell you that signing Lamar Odom is going to be very important. If they don't, then they will have lost 2 important pieces from what brought them a Championship.
I expect that we MIGHT see a Andrew Bynum trade in the near future. They could move him for a draft pick and another SF. JMO
Random but I FUCKIN HATE DEREK FISHER!
.4 makes me angry every day of my life.
1.PG
2.Artest fitting in or not
3.Odom resigning or not
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Originally Posted by tmtcsc
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Originally Posted by Muser
:lol
laker fans went mute...
their weakness is sucking cock
hmmmm, i always thought this was one of their purest talents....Quote:
Originally Posted by TIMMYD!
You mean .6?Quote:
Originally Posted by MateoNeygro
I'll bite.
PG,PG,PG and more PG.
Shannon Brown may or may not cut it. Anybody in here ever seen him play against a T.P? I haven't so it's hard for me to analyze his potential.
Bynum.
Sometimes the boy is a head case. If his maturity level doesn't come up a notch next season, it may be a long one for him.
That's all I can think of right now.
Question for you Spurs fan:
I know how damn good T.P. is so need to bash me for not propping him. His game is awesome and is a top P.G. if not the main one right now. My question is; Does Shannon have a shot to guard him? If not, what can he do?
Answer honestly. Heck, answer dishonestly if you want.
I tried. :bang
It depends on if the refs let them play or not. If you don't have the quicks to keep up with TP, you have to be physical with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheManFromAcme
Honestly no he doesn't have a shot. There really are only a few point guards that beat Tony head to head, and they all do it by being a better scorer than he is and having a great shot blocker behind them. Chris Paul and Devin Harris are really the only two guards that seem to give Parker trouble. Until Parker loses a step he is just too quick and smart with his feet to really be stopped.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheManFromAcme
I don't think CP3 gives TP trouble in terms of guarding him, the only player that could ever give TP fits was Devin Harris, and even he couldn't stop TP from being effective, he just wasn't as good.
I don't know who Shannon Brown is, and I don't know why he is so hyped all of the sudden, but I do know that it is impossible for a PG to defend TP. The way you stop Parker is putting an Ariza/Marion like player on him or pack the paint and hope his jumper is off.
....I asked alright:lol
So our PG position is wide open for exploitation?
Maybe we can get CP3 through some caper of sorts... :downspin:
Every team has weaknesses. Lakers lack brains at times. And a defensive PG. Fisher gets eaten alive by faster PG's.
One of the Lakers weaknesses is that they are too sensitive.. crying like babies!
yea PG is a glaring one. i think another one is consistency off the bench. they were regarded as the deeepest bench in the NBA but other than Odom there isnt much of a bench. brown is arguable though.
I'am glad somebody brought up this topic because having read through some of their forums it seems that whatever the Spurs do or any other NBA team for that matter the Lakers can't be beaten. These people are just cocky. I'am sure Kobe is the same way that's why he and Fisher cried on the bench when they knew that the Spurs had beaten them in the WCF in '03. That was classic.:lol
We Spurs fans never get tired of resetting that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by WARRIOR86
Was good times.
I wouldn't want to exploit it, that would mean putting innocent women in danger..
If you remember some of the details, Kobe actually not only rapes his women, but he likes to choke them and hurt them during sex too..Kobe and Artest on the same team is not good for society..
It's a classic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike
A nice and truthful answer!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheManFromAcme
I could go on all day about Laker weaknesses. The only reason they won the title this year is that they were the healthiest team in the playoffs.
San Antonio was hobbled, Boston was hobbled, and Jameer Nelson was hurt. Nelson was just like Manu was in last year's Laker series - he was 25% of his real self. If Nelson were healthy, no way does Orlando blow Game 2. I say if Nelson were healthy, Orlando wins that series.
But still, a healthy Boston team would have pounded the Lakers.
Weaknesses in order.
1. PG - Fisher is absolutely horrible.
2. Bynum - so inconsistent. Because Gasol and Odom are so good, Bynum's extreme weaknesses were not as glaring.
3. Bench play - Vujacic has become a joke, and Walton is super limited.
4. They only have seven players - the starters plus Odom and Shannon Brown. But EVERYBODY was healthy in the playoffs. They just got really lucky with health last year - luckier than literally any other team in the league. If they were missing a key player, they lose.
5. they are still soft. they didn't have to play a tough team last year other than Denver. Orlando is soft, too, so LA didn't have to beat Boston or Cleveland. Cleveland lost because Mike Brown is braindead.
6. For example, the Spurs will be able to push LA around this year. the only tough big they have is Odom, and Odom is really a 3. Plus, Odom might not even be there.
7. Bryant's ego. If things start going wrng, he takes over, which actually makes them a worse team. Bryant only goes as far as Gasol takes him.
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Originally Posted by Baseline
The Lakers are still a great team, and all this doesn't take away from their title last year, however they are NOT unbeatable the way the media and their fans prop them up to be.
The Lakers have one glaring weakness IMHO and that is defense at the PG position. Outside of Shannon Brown they don't really have any quality PG defenders. I hope the Lakers can find a replacement for Fisher in the offseason, or Brown can improve his game enough to get a good chunk of those minutes.
No team is perfect, all championship teams have their flaws. To say the Lakers didn't deserve to win last season is ludicrous, their regular season record proved they were the best team in basketball (at least the best in the WC). And their record against both BOS and CLE was 4-0. It's funny that Spur fans are complaining about injuries to other teams, but when the Lakers had to face the Celtics in '08 without Bynum or Ariza healthy they never once mentioned it.
It takes talent, health, and a little bit of luck to win an NBA championship.
Nobody has said that the Lakers didn't deserve to win?? And I guess that also depends on what you mean by "deserve". As in, are they talented enough to earn a championship, or deserve one? Yes. Or, Are they good people who deserve good things to happen for them? Most of them, yea, but not all. Definitely not Kobe
Those scrubs aren't worth an excuse. Plus, how can you make an excuse for taking the biggest asswhooping in the history of NBA championship clinching games?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrHouse
Losing Ariza is a big deal, LA fans immediately assume Artest is an upgrade...Ariza won the Denver series for LA with his defense and the kid hit his open shots as well. He was a damn good role player that complimented Kobe, Pau, and Odom. Artest needs to chuck up shots and have the ball in his hands to be effective on offense, he isnt as good of a spot up shooter as Ariza. He has lost a step on defense as well so there are some questions there as to how well Artest will fit in and fill Ariza's shoes.
That, Fisher's D or lack thereof, and their softness are probably their biggest flaws.
pg
injuries
occasional 3pt shooting
thats it.
Those "scrubs" were both starters.Quote:
Originally Posted by cornbread
Take two starters of any championship team and see how well they fare.
Bynum is not a starter
he needs to see how the refs call the game then play that way
otherwise he will always be in foul trouble
Like say a really hobbled Manu or Tim dealing with tendonosis, Those 2 being hurt plus inconsistent play, means playing against a stacked deck. It's hard to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrHouse
So I agree on 1 hand, but then you have to give us that Manu was hurt at last year's WCF plus the no-call on Fisher when he jumped into Barry which should've resulted in 2 free throws for Brent.
We all know about the PG issue. That's long standing. Bynum's pick & roll D is almost as bad as Shaq's.
If you do not re-sign Odom, does that mean you are no longer the favorites to win the West?
Who doesnt like to jizz on a woman's face?Quote:
Originally Posted by ScientistMan
Our weaknesses are only perceived as well.
Most of the Lakerfan don't come to the Spurs side of the forum, only a few so there won't be many responses from Lakerfan.
Laker fan is pretty honest about weaknesses, often pessimistic even with a loaded roster. Feel free to ask and you'll get more information than you want to know. I've never known a more pessimistic fanbase even when the going's good.
The reality is the Lakers aren't really that good, they shoot some shots, they made some shots. Some were fluke shots, other's were lucky ones.
Some Laker weaknesses I could quickly think of:
1) Defensive PG. Everybody knows you quick little PG's can abuse the Lakers PG. I'm talking to you Aaron Brooks, Jameer Nelson, Tony Parker <insert waterbug PG>
2) Soft Defense. Major problem in 07/08. Inconsistent defense last year.
3) Taking games off.
4) Charlotte Bobcats own the Lakers.
5) John Salmons owns Kobe.
6) Lamar is inconsistent cuz he eats too much kandy.
7) Derek Fisher is a little too buff
8) Machine was broken
9) Farmar's ears are kinda freakish big, as is his ego.
10) More? Just ask or propose a weakness and you'll find a Lakerfan that agrees.
Lakerfan Strength:
1) Great sigs...props to Carao for this new one:
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IronMex for the win
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#1 their fans
#2 overdependence on Phil Jackson. without him, more riots will break out. seriously
#3 overdependence on Kobe Bryant. Without him Lakers won't even come close to making playoffs
#4 primadonnas and divas everywhere. someone tell Farmar you actually have to play good to have attitude problems
i'll think of more later
I love how this is the only thread Laker fans shy away from, except for maybe 2 or 3. Pretty ironic.
The Lakers just won the 2009 NBA Championship. They made the Finals in 2008. Clearly with all their flaws they are still a formidable team. Not even the Spurs in their heyday managed to make back to back Finals.
I'm confident that a lot of the Laker's weaknesses will be solved this offseason. Bringing in Artest is going to help solve a lot of defensive problems for LA. We finally have our bull dog defender, our Rick Fox so to speak. I can guarantee you his presence alone will change the character of LA's defense, much like Garnett's did for Boston. As long as Odom is resigned next year's Lakers team will be better than this years. A lot of Spur fans will be eating crow when they see a fully healthy Bynum on the floor, he's a much different player when healthy.
The only worry I have is Derek Fisher. He's simply too old to be starting PG. The Lakers need to find a replacement ASAP, and no Farmar is not that player.
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Originally Posted by DrHouse
Do the excuses ever end with this guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrHouse
See, now that's a good post from you, House, unlike the garbage you've been throwing out there for the last week. The last line is especially spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrHouse
Artest for Ariza.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allanon
Ariza was a perfect piece for you guys, and just coming into his own. Kid defended hard, played hard, has finally found his stroke, and makes a lot of intangible plays.
OTOH, Artest is a headcase whose defence is slowly declining, and whose offense consists of a big black hole from which he shoots 40%. Also, do you think Artest is smart enough to learn the Triangle, and disciplined enough to actually play it? Or are the Lakers going to abandon it?
I'm surprised more LA fans aren't worried by Artest. Are you assuming that Phil will be able to handle him just like he did Dennis? IMHO, Dennis was a strange guy, but not a sociopath - I'm pretty sure Artest is a sociopath. Has Phil handled a sociopath before?
They wouldn't be Laker fans if they didn't have their never ending quiver of excuses, apologies, the covert conspiracies against them, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by cornbread
It's comedy gold.
...hang on, your handle is JWest... am I the only one who is confused??? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by JWest596
we do have clear weaknesses but so does everybody else...hense why this new season will be a great one
Quick, above average scoring PG's have been the Lakers Achilles heel this entire decade. It has caused problems for the defense in the past and I expect it will again this season BUT the Lakers have won 4 titles with this weakness and it is no reason to think that they can not win it again because as someone stated, all teams have weaknesses. I would like the lakers to upgrade that position but it is not an upgrade that is necessary at this time to win back to back titles. Phil had stated that he plans on using Lamar more at the point this season. With the signing of Ron Artest, the 3 position is his, so I expect to see Kobe guarding PG's this season. Can you imagine a line up of
Kobe - SG
Odom - PG
Artest - SF
Gasol - PF
Bynum - C
Awesome!
Complacency is the only other weakness. The Lakers seem to get bored with the competition during the long regular season.
Anybody who says that Artest is not an upgrade at the 3 is an idiot. Anybody who says Ariza is a big part for the Lakers success is misinformed. Do you know that Ariza only started 23 games for the Lakers in two years? The Lakers won back to back conference titles with Rad, Walton and Ariza. 1 conference win was without Ariza. Ron is a big upgrade at that position and his stats says as much. So it's pretty dumb to imply that the lakers will not have success without Ariza. Ariza was a good role player who came into his own in the WCF and Finals this season. He shot well, defended well against Turkuloo, but was torched by Carmelo which forced the Lakers to ask Kobe to try to stop him. The Lakers will not have that problem with Artest. They will also shed the softness label now that Artest is a Lakers. He is by far one of the toughest player in the NBA and his intensity on defense will be contagious with the other Lakers players. The Lakers are indeed stronger this season and will rival the Shaq/Kobe era for best Lakers team of the decade and possibly best Lakers team ever.
That said, I do believe the Spurs have made moves to better compete against the Lakers but they are full of unknowns. They are coming into the season with two declining players in Duncan and McDyess as the only proven players on their front line. You have no idea what those other players will bring in the coming season. RJ is ok but Artest renders him useless. The Lakers championship experience and Kobe Bryant should be enough to get past the Spurs.
As for the Mavs, they have improved but not in the areas needed to beat the lakers. They are still weak in the post, which is a death sentence against the Lakers bigs. As long as their PF plays on the perimeter they will not threaten the Lakers.
I expect this Lakers team to rival the 2001 Championship Lakers playoff run as the most dominating playoff team in NBA History.
Weakness
They have only one Luke Walton.
I agree. The PG position is not a weakness. It's just not a strength for the Lakers. There are only a handfull of PG's in the league that have the ability to be a good scorer and assist man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas 2 Step
Phil really wanted to coach Artest so I believe he really believes that he can coach him. Hell it was Adelman who put into Artest's head that he should be a scorer. I think he'll do just fine.
Without Odom...how do you feel now?
Watching Kobe and Artest eat each other alive next season is going to be fun.
Thier fans (you would never see this shit happening in SA):
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Class-less idiots = True Laker FansQuote:
Originally Posted by Jose Ole
When you stop to really think about it, its sad that people like this exist. If I were a Laker fan (with class), I would be ashamed. I feel bad for you all, having people like this bring down your orginization. Fans are just as much a part of the game as the players on the court.
http://www.basketball.org/wp-content...respectnew.jpg
More class-less acts:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6...e870970b-500wi
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What makes you think we care about what some dumb drunk Mexicans are doing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jose Ole
Becuase those "dumb drunk Mexicans" make your team's fanbase look like shit and with you attributing that classlessness simply to their culture, it puts you right in line with those typical "dumb drunk Mexicans." I don't care how many titles you win, grow the fuck up.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrHouse
When you have injuries, you have weaknesses.
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Originally Posted by DrHouse
You know Doc, I will get your back on certain issues but your comments regarding dumb, drunk "Mexicans" is intolerable. I am 1/2 Mexican and a Laker fan at that. True, demographically speaking more than likely it was hispanics that did this but to paint us all with one stroke is unjustified. We are talking about L.A. here. L.A. is Mexico, D.F. but in California. Mexican-Americans make up a HUGE portion of the Laker fan base so I'd reconsider your comment.
Not that you would care but I am a bit angered over your comment.
BTW, Spur fan has a valid point. I live here in S.A. and for the most part their fans are well behaved. But I digress, I did see a couple of White-trash, NASCAR watching toothless white crackers wearing a Laker Jersey the other day. ...Get my point?
because california has no money and the governator just raised my license renewal fee while money is spent on michael jacksons funeral. i care what drunk mexicans are doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrHouse