enough of this sh....!!!! Bring back Bruce

The way most talk around here i know you are eeither divorced or will be. Taking Bruce back is like going back to the old spouse. The good times are over. It's time to move on. Some of you probably want Avery back running the point over Tony. And for you real old hold outs, Gervin ain't coming back, either.

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Originally Posted by SA210

Bruce lost a step MY ASS! Someone said that one day, and people went with it as truth. It's complete BS. People can't think for themseleves and just believe what they hear. He is STILL the best perimiter defender in the entire NBA, period.

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Bruce has not looked that slow or unprepared to me when he was on the floor during the season or against the Mavs. In fact, I really didn't notice the guys he was covering as long as Bruce was in the games. He is still the stopper that could be valuable this year.
Of course, once he is waived, the Spurs can comment on this. Otherwise, Fine City.

Bruce has lost a step for sure. I mean, it's not like he's getting younger.
He will always be a spur.

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Originally Posted by dbestpro

The way most talk around here i know you are eeither divorced or will be. Taking Bruce back is like going back to the old spouse. The good times are over. It's time to move on. Some of you probably want Avery back running the point over Tony. And for you real old hold outs, Gervin ain't coming back, either.

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Why do you have to exxagerate? Avery is not the best point gaurd in the NBA or even near it and he's retired. Gervin is retired and old. What a ridiculous arguement.

Bruce though, is still the best perimiter defender in the NBA right now, regardless of what BS people say. He's the best defender on the perimter, we are "supposed" to be a defensive team. We have noone to slow down Kobe. Makes sense.

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Originally Posted by rayray2k8

Bruce has lost a step for sure. I mean, it's not like he's getting younger.
He will always be a spur.

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"He's lost a step" has been the common popular statement but has no real backing.

And even he he did lose a step, he's still the best defender on the perimeter in the NBA, and definitely better defensively than any other Spur, period. I guess when Kobe's killing us next year, you'll just have to see then what I'm talking about.

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Originally Posted by dbestpro

The way most talk around here i know you are eeither divorced or will be. Taking Bruce back is like going back to the old spouse. The good times are over. It's time to move on. Some of you probably want Avery back running the point over Tony. And for you real old hold outs, Gervin ain't coming back, either.

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Good one! :lol

Bruce still holds some value, however I have to agree that he's lost a little step and I hate to say it but I don't think anybody can really "lock down" Kobe. Bruce from 4 years ago, could get pretty close. I think Shane Battier is probably the best perimeter defender in the league right now. I also think Ariza has some pretty good potential to be in that category. That's why I think the Lakers fucked up by not keeping him and getting Artest. I don't think toughness can really be "spread" to everyone, if they wanted to be tougher they would get tougher on their own. Inspired perhaps, but Artest isn't that type of player, he'll just be a foul magnet next year for the Lakers. They are worse now w/out Ariza. Getting back to Bruce... he has to be released from the Bucks before he can be "taken" back by the Spurs, shit who knows, maybe the Bucks will keep him and play him 20 min. a game. Whatever the case is the Spurs will be an upgraded team next year! :ihit

^^^^ Bruce makes Kobe ineffective, jacking up shots, Kobe doesn't get his team involved as much when Bruce is on him. How do you not know this?

There is no way the Bucks are going to keep Bruce. They wanted his contract so they could cut him and save money since it was only partially guaranteed. They're going young and rebuilding and the last thing they need is an old unhappy dinosaur on the team.

On the other, the Spurs could use the old dinosaur considering all of the new players. So, on Aug 1, let's go after him. Isn't there like a 7 day period before we can sign him or something like that?

If Bruce is cut, he has to wait 20 days before signing with anyone.

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Originally Posted by SA210

^^^^ Bruce makes Kobe ineffective, jacking up shots, Kobe doesn't get his team involved as much when Bruce is on him. How do you not know this?

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C'mon, that's exaggerating a little bit. He helps, I'm not saying he can't guard Kobe, it's just when Kobe gets it going, it's too late, the fucker gets confidence and rhythm. Perhaps Bruce can't play the needed 30+ minutes to be "effective". Bruce has the brains to get it done, he's just not fast enough any more. Either way I think Kobe has come to rely on his team mates more these days, unless he has a hissy fit and decides not to take any shots and leave the team out to dry. Kobe is getting wear and tear too, so that "difference gap" shouldn't widen too much if Bruce comes back.

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Originally Posted by tp2021

If Bruce is cut, he has to wait 20 days before signing with anyone.

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Thanks. I knew there was some sort of waiting period less than 30 days.

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Originally Posted by all_heart

C'mon, that's exaggerating a little bit. He helps, I'm not saying he can't guard Kobe, it's just when Kobe gets it going, it's too late, the fucker gets confidence and rhythm. Perhaps Bruce can't play the needed 30+ minutes to be "effective". Bruce has the brains to get it done, he's just not fast enough any more. Either way I think Kobe has come to rely on his team mates more these days, unless he has a hissy fit and decides not to take any shots and leave the team out to dry. Kobe is getting wear and tear too, so that "difference gap" shouldn't widen too much if Bruce comes back.

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I don't think it's an exaggeration. I think we just have forgotten how valuable Bruce really is to us. You saw Bruce was great while he played in the playoffs. He can gaurd Kobe better than anyone. That would come in handy for us in the playoffs. No matter how much you or anyone seems to believe that Bruce is slower, the bottom line is there is no one better to gaurd Kobe or Lebron or any of those types of dudes, period.

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Originally Posted by Da Spurs

There is no way the Bucks are going to keep Bruce. They wanted his contract so they could cut him and save money since it was only partially guaranteed. They're going young and rebuilding and the last thing they need is an old unhappy dinosaur on the team.

On the other, the Spurs could use the old dinosaur considering all of the new players. So, on Aug 1, let's go after him. Isn't there like a 7 day period before we can sign him or something like that?

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So he's not good enough for the Bucks but good enough for the Spurs, WTF??! Every team in the NBA could use a salty vet on the bench, whether he plays 5 min or 20 mins a game out there. Bruce is plenty smart and crafty enough to teach a few young Bucks a thing or too. Don't forget he can knock down that corner 3, so there is always a chance they may decide to hold onto him.

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Originally Posted by all_heart

So he's not good enough for the Bucks but good enough for the Spurs, WTF??! Every team in the NBA could use a salty vet on the bench, whether he plays 5 min or 20 mins a game out there. Bruce is plenty smart and crafty enough to teach a few young Bucks a thing or too. Don't forget he can knock down that corner 3, so there is always a chance they may decide to hold onto him.

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Those reasons are why we need him. I'm not for putting him at the end of the bench, but at least have him for that if nothing else. So when we do need to cool down another player on another team, and none of our NEW signings can do it, Bruce has fresh legs for it and can do that veteran job for us when we need it. What's wrong with that?

We'll need it.

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Originally Posted by rayray2k8

Then go bitch at the bucks you ignorant fuck.. Why do dumbasses like you post these ridiculous threads, demanding to bring this player, or sign this guy.
Do you honestly believe R.C Buford or Pop comes on spurstalk?
Get a clue man. :rolleyes

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don't like the thread? don't post in it ya stupid cunt.

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Originally Posted by dbestpro

The way most talk around here i know you are eeither divorced or will be. Taking Bruce back is like going back to the old spouse. The good times are over. It's time to move on. Some of you probably want Avery back running the point over Tony. And for you real old hold outs, Gervin ain't coming back, either.

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uh, Bruce is still top 5 perimeter defender in the NBA. it's a no brainer for min salary and minutes.

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Originally Posted by SA210

I don't think it's an exaggeration. I think we just have forgotten how valuable Bruce really is to us. You saw Bruce was great while he played in the playoffs. He can gaurd Kobe better than anyone. That would come in handy for us in the playoffs. No matter how much you or anyone seems to believe that Bruce is slower, the bottom line is there is no one better to gaurd Kobe or Lebron or any of those types of dudes, period.

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On past Spurs teams, there was nobody better to guard Kobe. So if the Spurs were playing in these past playoffs, who would you rather guard Kobe, Shane or Bruce (IF you had the option)? I'd have to lean towards Shane myself. I just don't believe Bruce has the speed or strength to guard players like Kobe or Lebron, the heart and brains yes, that's why he's a great help defender and is able to block some shots from the back or side.

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Originally Posted by all_heart

On past Spurs teams, there was nobody better to guard Kobe. So if the Spurs were playing in these past playoffs, who would you rather guard Kobe, Shane or Bruce (IF you had the option)? I'd have to lean towards Shane myself. I just don't believe Bruce has the speed or strength to guard players like Kobe or Lebron, the heart and brains yes, that's why he's a great help defender and is able to block some shots from the back or side.

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I'd rather have Bruce. I think he's still the best at gaurding the perimiter right now. And if the Bucks cut him, he's be easy to resign for the minimum.

And Battier is way overrated on defense. It makes me sick how overrated people make him out to be.

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Originally Posted by SA210

Those reasons are why we need him. I'm not for putting him at the end of the bench, but at least have him for that if nothing else. So when we do need to cool down another player on another team, and none of our NEW signings can do it, Bruce has fresh legs for it and can do that veteran job for us when we need it. What's wrong with that?

We'll need it.

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Nothing wrong with that, I like that idea, I'm just saying that's why the Bucks may hold onto him. You never know...
I will say that right now w/out Bruce we just have to hope Hairston, Manu, or RJ can do a good enough job and our new rebounders will make up the difference. Hill just isn't tall enough to stop those pullup jumpers that Kobe likes to shoot. Going forward between TP and Hill we should absolutely own the opposing teams PGs. TP should be able to wear them out offensively and Hill on the defensive side. It's going to be an awesome sight to see TP, Manu and Hill getting into the paint with the likes of RJ and Mason waiting at the 3 pt line, with Blair, TD, and Dice ready to hit the glass.

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Originally Posted by DynastySpurs210

BRING BACK BRUCE!!!!!

http://www.brucebowen.com/images/fan...thezone_02.gif

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:lol nice foul

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So he's not good enough for the Bucks but good enough for the Spurs, WTF??! Every team in the NBA could use a salty vet on the bench, whether he plays 5 min or 20 mins a game out there. Bruce is plenty smart and crafty enough to teach a few young Bucks a thing or too. Don't forget he can knock down that corner 3, so there is always a chance they may decide to hold onto him.

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I don't think you trade for a 38 year old unless there is something to be had financially. And yes, the Bucks needed that financial break to sign their free agents. They ain't going to keep Bruce. Mark it down.

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Originally Posted by SA210

I'd rather have Bruce. I think he's still the best at gaurding the perimiter right now. And if the Bucks cut him, he's be easy to resign for the minimum.

And Battier is way overrated on defense. It makes me sick how overrated people make him out to be.

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Battier is a good defender, very similar style to Bruce, he even knocks down that corner 3 too. I like the way he can get a hand an inch away from Kobe's grill without knocking the shit out of him. Although the latter would be nice too every now and then.. :lol

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Originally Posted by all_heart

Nothing wrong with that, I like that idea, I'm just saying that's why the Bucks may hold onto him. You never know...
I will say that right now w/out Bruce we just have to hope Hairston, Manu, or RJ can do a good enough job and our new rebounders will make up the difference. Hill just isn't tall enough to stop those pullup jumpers that Kobe likes to shoot. Going forward between TP and Hill we should absolutely own the opposing teams PGs. TP should be able to wear them out offensively and Hill on the defensive side. It's going to be an awesome sight to see TP, Manu and Hill getting into the paint with the likes of RJ and Mason waiting at the 3 pt line, with Blair, TD, and Dice ready to hit the glass.

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We are going to need Manu to play his badass offense and to do all the Manu things he does. But Bruce makes it easier for the team. He already frustrates the hell out of his guy by the time they gets to the rim. We don't need Manu or our other offensive players trying to do something Bruce can already do better.

Hopefully the Bucks cut him, so Pop can take his head out his ass and resign him.

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Originally Posted by Da Spurs

I don't think you trade for a 38 year old unless there is something to be had financially. And yes, the Bucks needed that financial break to sign their free agents. They ain't going to keep Bruce. Mark it down.

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I hope you're right dude. I just hope Denver or NO doesn't step in and offer Bruce just enough $$ to lure him away from us. Karl is just the type of person to push for that too.. I'd personally fuck him up for that! :ihit

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Originally Posted by SA210

We are going to need Manu to play his badass offense and to do all the Manu things he does. But Bruce makes it easier for the team. He already frustrates the hell out of his guy by the time they gets to the rim. We don't need Manu or our other offensive players trying to do something Bruce can already do better.

Hopefully the Bucks cut him, so Pop can take his head out his ass and resign him.

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Gotta point there, problem is that RJ and Bruce technically play the same position. Unless you go small, you can't have TD, TP, Manu, RJ and Bruce out there at the same time during crunch time. In the last two minutes of a game with 1 or no timeouts left, you need both scorers and rebounders out there. You could probably put Dice in for RJ, put TD in his natural 4 spot and hope that TP or Manu are in rhythm.