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I didn't see this thread anywhere, so excuse me if this is repetitive.
Seems like the Spurs roster is set. Tell me where this is wrong...
Guaranteed
- Duncan
- Parker
- Jefferson
- McDyess
- Ginobili
- Finley
- Mason
- Hill
- Bonner
- Mahinmi
Non-Guaranteed
- Blair
- McClinton
- Haislip
- Hairson
- Williams
Forgot about the Gist
my prediction as of right now, which means absolutely nothing, since I can't tell the future and there could be other moves(like trades, or minimum signings)..in order of minutes they will get/depth chart..
PG: Parker/Hill..
SG: Manu/Mason..
SF: Jefferson/Hairston/Finley..
PF: McDyess/Blair/Bonner..
C: Duncan/Mahinmi..
I'd like to see Haislip play though, I have a good feeling about him..I wouldn't be surprised to see him ahead of Ian and Bonner..
..
Haislip is Guaranteed
PG: Parker/Hill
SG: Manu/Mason/Hairston
SF: Jefferson/Finley/Haislip
PF: Duncan/Blair/Bonner
C: McDyess/Mahinmi
The spurs roster:
PG: Parker, Hill.
SG: Ginobili, Mason, McClinton.
SF: Jefferson, Finley, Hairson.
PF: McDyess, Bonner, Haslip, Blair, Gist.
C: Duncan, Mahinmi.
And a Lot of SMALLBALL!!!
Probably we can sign other center with de LLE o the third PG. In this case Gist or McClinton are out.
Parker / Hill / unknown veteran
Manu / Mason
Jefferson / Finley / Hairston
Duncan / Blair / Bonner / Haislip
McDyess / Mahinmi / unknown veteran
blair will be guaranteed
Agree that Haislip is guaranteed, and Blair will be. I don't think McClinton or Williams make the roster. And I'd give about even money that we'll re-sign either Bowen or Fab to a minimum contract. (I wouldn't be shocked if we signed both.)
I don't see any changes to the Guaranteed portion of the roster, unless it involved a trade of Bonner and/or Finley. And there aren't many realistic options that would really bring an upgrade to the team. I could see trading one or both of them in a salary dump move, by taking advantage of the 125% rule. But like it or not, those two guys are going to get minutes this year, so we would have to pick up one more respectable player. I honestly don't see who that would be.
I think we're pretty close to having a roster set. In a way, it would be nice for all the players to know where they stand.
Tp/gh
rmj/mg/mh
rj/mf/jg
td/db/mh
amd/im/mb
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzQuote:
Originally Posted by biziofromdowntown
what about alpha n omega? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by superbigtime
C McDyess/Wallace :)
PF Duncan/Blair/Mahinmi/Haislip
SF Jefferson/Nocioni
SG Manu/Mason/Hairston
PG Tony/Hill
...like BIG BEN?Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
Roster thread!!
i was hoping for a lineup threadQuote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
what do yall think the starting lineups will look like this season?
PG. Tony/Hill
SG. Manu/Mason/McClinton (Hill)
SF. Jefferson/Gist/Beck
PF. Dice/Blair (Haislip/Gist)
C. Duncan/Haislip/Veteran (Dice)
ahh jeez
PG- John Stockton
SG- Jordan
SF - Young Penny hardaway
PF - Duncan
Center - Duncan Clone
thats the spurs roster..... on my ps3
Bonner guaranteed but Blair isn't?
this is making me sick.
Perhaps waiting until the Spurs actually sign Blair to a contract first would be appropriate?Quote:
Originally Posted by VivaPopovich
PG: Parker/Hill
SG: Mason/Manu/Hairston
SF: Jefferson/Finley/Williams
PF: Duncan/Blair/Haislip
C: McDyess/Bonner/Mahinmi
And a third pg will be added somewhere.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
Might not even sign another big w/ 6 on the roster already and leave a spot open for other additons or just to save a few bucks.
Beginning of the season:Quote:
Originally Posted by mookie2001
Parker
Mason
Jefferson
Duncan
McDyess
Ian cracks the starting lineup after the all star break at center (or at least gets the bulk of the minutes)
Can Haislip play the 3?
What is important to me is - who have we added after last year' 1st round loss?
Ginobili- returning to health and AS level play
Jefferson-AS quality player, offense and defense
McDyess- quality big with playoff eperience, high IQ, defense
Blair- rookie reboundingv machine, energy off the bench
Mahinmi- the dark horse and X - factor
Hill- added playing time and integration into the team, hopefully more minutes
Haislip- another possible steal and solid addition to the frontcourt
Hairston- possible updrade over Finley
Bonner is a joke
McClinton and Williams - adios....
Starting Lineup on opening night:
Parker
Mason
Jefferson
McDyess
Duncan
Bench:
Hill
Manu/Hairston
Finley/Williams
Blair/Haislip
Mahinmi/Bonner
not sure about McClinton or Gist.
Pop will start game one (assuming no further trades):
Parker / Hill / Williams
Mason / Ginobili
Jefferson / Finley / Hairston
Duncan / Blair / Haislip
McDyess / Bonner / Mahinmi
Pop will make the new guys earn their spots ahead of Finley and Bonner during the season.
This lineup is almost identical to montgod's, with a tweak to Williams, whom I believe will only make the team if Pop thinks he can handle the third string point guard duties (and they can't find a better minimum salary veteran option for that spot).
I had higher hopes for Gist, and to a lesser degree McClinton, but neither has done well in the summer league thus far. There are more summer games to be played though, and they should both get camp invites. So they still have opportunities.
Funny, that guy in the white shirt is a dead ringer for Robert Horry.Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeh8u
McClinton, Gist and Williams won't make the team. I think we will sign a 3 pg. You can only suit up 12 players right ?
PG: Parker, Hill
SG: Manu, Mason, Hairston
PF: Duncan, Blair
C: McDyess, Bonner, Mahinmi
SF: Jefferson, Finley
Reserves: Yet to be acquired Pg, Hairston, Haislip
Trade Assets: Bonner, Finley and Mason
If Mason can get back his form and be effective in the playoffs then we'll be in good shape. Bonner shot well during the reg. season too but his weaknesses were glaring during the playoffs.
Gottamn, this offseason needs to be over.
Why does everyone think that Manu will not start ? He was put back in the starting line up (once and for all -- according to Pop) before he was reinjured. I fully expect him to start. The other bench guys will have to suck it up and perform or not play.
Maybe after this is done we can debate the many ways to make a peanut butter & jelly sandwich.
......mmm, peanut butter and jelly sammich.....
I think Spurs nation has just grown accustomed to Manu off the bench so that's what they expect. I don't know whether Manu will start or not. There's decent arguements to be made both ways. If you start Manu he doesn't have to work as hard out there. If you bring Manu off the bench you give him the chance to be more productive in the minutes he gets.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc
TP, Hill, Mason/Manu
Manu, Mason, Hairston
RJ, Finley, Haislip/Gist
Dice, Blair, Haislip/Gist
Duncan, Ian, Bonner
You are right on the money. This is exactly what they'll have.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc
I love watching Manu play, but I think he will, and should, come off the bench for at least four reasons:Quote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc
First, and most importantly, it will cut total game minutes from his playing time throughout the season, which will help save his body for the playoffs.
Secondly, it will make it easier for more of the minutes he does play to be reallocated to the ends of games when he is needed most.
Thirdly, he won't have to compete with the Spurs other top scorers for touches. This is even more of a concern with the additions of Jefferson and McDyess. There is only one ball.
Fourthly, he will add scoring and defense to the second string, which needs both.
I don't think McClinton or Gist are earning a spot right now and I don't think the Spurs will feel any pressure to fill the 15th spot, especially being over the lux tax. Add in the flexibility that an open roster spot provides if there is an injury, and I think that's all that's needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberBob
Unless McClinton or Gist blow the Spurs away over the next few games and redeem themselves, my gut says the Spurs go with 14 roster spots to start the season...the 11 with guaranteed contracts along with Balir, Hairston and Williams.
FWIW, I think it's entirely possible that either or both McClinton and Gist wind up on the Toros and are given serious looks throughout the regular season to fill that 15th spot.
(I know this wasn't your position, that you were just relating what some people think)Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
I don't think it's within Manu's ability to go at less than 100%, and if he did he wouldn't be Manu. He's a sprinter - short bursts at full speed. Gotta let him be who he is.
Was anyone else surprised by how highly RC spoke about Williams last night? He made it sound like he is definitely in the team's future plans.
That's part of why I think Williams might make the team this season, but only if he shows an ability to play the point, because that is the only place that's really open for him now. I've heard the Spurs call him a 6'7 point guard before, so they believe it is at least possible. But I think long-term they like his shooting more than his PG ability, and would like to keep other teams from grabbing him while he develops an NBA game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic Petro
I also think that if the Spurs just wanted a safe-bet veteran point guard, Pop would have already brought back Vaughn because he knows the system. So they are determined to take a chance on a young kid, or a better vet that doesn't know the system.
Jumped right out at me...probably the most telling thing of that entire interview.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic Petro
I think the player he is now is the one the Spurs thought they drafted a couple years back...a point forward with a good feel for the game and decent all-around skills.
I'd be surprised if they didn't fully guarantee his contract and secure a roster spot for him, as he provides another ball handler and depth at SF.
I'm not saying the Spurs aren't high on Williams, but it's not like RC is going to come out and publicly say "we don't like him all that much". So there's no telling whether RC really feels that strongly or not. All we know is that the Spurs saw enough in him to give him the contract he's got, but it's unguaranteed. I think there's a training camp battle brewing between Williams and Hairston.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic Petro
Or why you would make multiple posts on a thread you obviously care nothing about...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
I don't know...RC has done a million press conferences and interviews. It's not like he was put on the spot with the question. It seemed to me like he went out of his way to praise Williams' play towards the end of the DLeague last year and to speculate on his future with the big club.Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
because threads like these are fucking stupid and accomplish nothing
heres my lineup!
duncan
mdyess
RJ
manu
tony
oh yeah thats a great team
With Williams, Hairston, Blair (soon to be), and Haislip under contract, 14 spots look set.
The 15th will come down to McClinton, Gist, an unknown summer leaguer, or a wily vet. Wouldn't be surprised if that slot is a revolving door like it was last year. I know its early but Gist and McClinton really have A LOT to prove this summer before they earn a spot.
yeah every year the last spot is a revolving doorQuote:
Wouldn't be surprised if that slot is a revolving door like it was last year
do you think anyone might have a phantom injury?????
thats CIA POP for you!
Add the tangible evidence...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic Petro
They cut Hairston, who had a guaranteed contract, just so they could sign Williams to keep him from being picked up by another team...the same guy they drafted 33 overall a couple years ago and who has spent his entire career (except for a short stint w/ the clippers) in and around the Spurs system.
I'm not saying he won't have to play well to get his contract picked up, but apparently they've liked him for a long time and they've noticed the improvement in his game since they drafted him.
I think Williams ends up on the roster.
RC is praising everyone these days. Don't get me wrong, I hope everything RC is saying about Williams 100% true. I'm just saying this time of year you have to be skeptical because every coach and GM is going to have praise for the guys on their roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic Petro
I think the Spurs will keep Hairston regardless. So, either just Hairston, or Hairston and Williams (of course they will want them to think they are fighting for a position though). That's why Williams needs to show he can play the point, otherwise he would be too far down the line-up to get any playing time and, therefor, wouldn't be signed to the big team this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
And other threads accomplish so much...Quote:
Originally Posted by Allan Rowe vs Wade
I've never really seen any significant potential in Williams TBH..Hairston is clearly better to me..
Williams averaged over 20pts, 7rebs, 5asts and 1 1/2 steals per game for the Toros last year. The year before that, similar scoring, rebounding and steals.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
He's also still just 22 years old.
I'm not saying he doesn't have room to improve (i.e. outside shooting), but I don't understand why many don't believe he's being taken seriously by the Spurs FO.
The guy has shown improvement since his dreadful summer league play and the Spurs saw enough in him to cut Hairston late in the year. He could amount to nothing more than end-of-the-bench fodder, but the Spurs could do worse than a young guy with experience in the Spurs system who plays a need position (SF) and can handle the ball.
You have to have injury protection on your team. The Spurs will probably keep 14 players, rotating the 2 Inactive List (IL) slots throughout the year, how ever needed.
It's the summer so it's difficult to do this because there could be a trade or a FA signing forthcoming. If McClinton continues to struggle, then this would be the roster Oct. 31.
Version 1.0 7/15/2009
Duncan......Bonner......Mahinimi
McDyess.....Blair..........Haislip
Jefferson....Finley.......Williams
Ginobili.......Mason......Hairston
Parker........Hill
Agreed. :tuQuote:
Originally Posted by Solid D
My prediction:
Parker / Hill
Mason / Ginobili / Williams
Jefferson / Finley
Duncan / Haislip / Bonner
McDyess / Mahinmi
IR
Hairston - He can score, but can he handle the ball?
Blair - It's getting crowded in the front court. My guess its either Williams or Bonner who gets waived to make room for Blair (if he's more than hype)
- ? -
My hunch is that Bowen is coming back to the club.
From yesterday's SL game, Hairston is a good fit, Is Haislip on the SL team?
I'd say it's just out of sight, out of mind. Williams would be getting more run if he were on the SL team.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFBlue
I dont see Williams making the team over Hairston and Blair...I guess, they rather play Haislip at SF, than leaving Blair outQuote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
So I think its more like:
Parker / Hill
Mason / Ginobili
Jefferson / Finley / Haislip
McDyess / Bonner / Blair
Duncan / Mahinmi
other 3 roster spots: Hairston + ? + ?
if Bruce comes back (wich would be great, I see him taking Haislips spot)
Williams only hope for this season is as the 3rd PG. The Spurs would love to have a 6'7 "point forward" if he's capable. If he's not capable, Pop will still want to sign a 3rd PG and won't need/want to sign Williams as the 9th G/SF in the line-up. He will return to the Toros where he will actually get some run, and might get another 10 day call-up at some point in the season.