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Re: Williams versus Hairston Thread
If Williams is indeed capable of guarding PGs, it'll be interesting to see how he fares against some even stiffer PG competition.
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is this like a tp vs manu thread:downspin:
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Re: Williams versus Hairston Thread
Parker / Hill / Williams
Mason / Ginobili
RJ / Finley
Duncan / Blair
McDyess / Bonner / Mahinmi
If Williams can play the point, then Hairston and Haislip will be the reserves, and they won't sign a 15th.
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Originally Posted by
zepn
Parker / Hill / Williams
Mason / Ginobili
RJ / Finley
Duncan / Blair
McDyess / Bonner / Mahinmi
If Williams can play the point, then Hairston and Haislip will be the reserves, and they won't sign a 15th.
Great post, I agree that this will be the roster.
Hairston will be the 3rd SF spot, and Haislip will be plugged as needed, and his athleticism and shooting experimented with to see where he stands and how much he can contribute.
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I think that Williams is more talented than Hairston by a significant margin.
Williams problem is to find his niche in the NBA. Hairston's niche is well defined: athletic defender who can score a little. Williams is way more harder to plug into a NBA roster. Once a coach will find how to use Williams, he could do wonders.
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I gotta go with my Arizona boy. Let's do it MWill!
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Originally Posted by
Bruno
I think that Williams is more talented than Hairston by a significant margin.
Williams problem is to find his niche in the NBA. Hairston's niche is well defined: athletic defender who can score a little. Williams is way more harder to plug into a NBA roster. Once a coach will find how to use Williams, he could do wonders.
what makes it so difficult for him to find a niche in the nba?
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Originally Posted by
Bruno
I think that Williams is more talented than Hairston by a significant margin.
Williams problem is to find his niche in the NBA. Hairston's niche is well defined: athletic defender who can score a little. Williams is way more harder to plug into a NBA roster. Once a coach will find how to use Williams, he could do wonders.
:wow
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Williams may not have a specific niche, but if he's even "pretty good" at playing the 3rd string 1, 2, and 3, that's a damn nice general niche that lot's of teams would like to have covered by one guy.
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Would it be smart to compare Marcus Williams to a pre-injury Shaun Livingston?
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fleggy2k2
what makes it so difficult for him to find a niche in the nba?
A player with a SG/SF body whose main qualities are being a good passer and quite good rebounder is quite unusual.
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beachwood
I gotta go with my Arizona boy. Let's do it MWill!
I hope he pans out. Would hate for that 2006 2nd round pick to go to waste.
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I think the most valuable use for Williams might be as a second team point forward, where a line up consisting of him along with Manu and Hill would give the Spurs three guys who can bring up the ball.
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Of course, the Spurs could deal Finley and have room for both Hairston and Williams...but I doubt they go that young in their swingman rotation.
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
Our 12 man rotation looks like this:
Parker / Hill
Mason / Ginobili / (*)
RJ / Finley
Duncan / Haislip /
McDyess / Bonner / Mahinmi
The guys fighting for that one position on the *regular* rotations would be:
Blair
Hairston
Williams
I gather if a big gets injured, Blair would take his place.
However, it's either Hairston or Williams for the regular position at SG or SF.
My hunch its Williams since he's got a better handle on the ball, can play PG and long enough to play SF. What's your take?
Hmm, count them again. That's only 11. Hairston and Williams each have contracts, and therefore for the time being, a spot on the roster. Blair's contract is being worked out as we speak. The final spot will be between Gist/McClinton/other.
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Marcus Bryant
Of course, the Spurs could deal Finley and have room for both Hairston and Williams...but I doubt they go that young in their swingman rotation.
But it sure is nice to dream.
In fact, that wouldn't be a dream, that'd be a miracle. :lol
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Popovich has always dreamed of a Paul Pressey type player and that's probably along the lines of what they're hoping from Williams.
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Hairston. Williams has too many turnovers and his FG% wasn't high in dleague.
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Bruno
A player with a SG/SF body whose main qualities are being a good passer and quite good rebounder is quite unusual.
Just means coaches aren't willing to change their offense so if guys can't adjust to their style they may not make the team and even when they do you may see talent but wonder why the guy is underachieving. Change the offense to suit his skill sets would be the best idea but it won't happen. :toast
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Folks, let's get real!
Malik Hairston at 6'4" is undersized for a small forward and his kind of player are a dime a dozen.
Marcus Williams at 6'7" with unusually long wingspan. In his last D-league games he was stuffing the stat sheet with triple double performances in points, rebounds and assists.
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Yes, Hairston is a "dime a dozen" player..that's why we've been missing a player with his style for years and years..
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I actually think Williams has a legit shot at making the roster. He has good size, and he's worked on his offense over the past couple of years. He had a great year with the Toros. All he needs to do is improve his defense. He can definitely score, though.
Some people might overrate his abilities as a PG, but he handled the PG duties for Austin last year fairly well. One wonders if that would translate to the NBA.
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Both guys had sensational finishes in the D league last year, but since neither is going to be a starter or a star on the Spurs, I would at this point take the versatility of Williams-- more assists and rebounds, ability to play the point, greater length-- over the better shooting percentage of Hairston.
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Williams ability to play the point is being overrated..we need more defensive-minded players right now, and Hairston is clearly a good individual defender with upside, and he can spread the floor a lot better..
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ceperez
Folks, let's get real!
Malik Hairston at 6'4" is undersized for a small forward and his kind of player are a dime a dozen. .
Which is why I believe Hairston fits at a backup SG position.
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
Marcus Williams at 6'7" with unusually long wingspan. In his last D-league games he was stuffing the stat sheet with triple double performances in points, rebounds and assists.
Which is why Williams could potentially be considered as a SF, yet seemingly has the versatility enough to play multiple positions.