Why does Mahanmi suck so bad?

It's amusing that a 28th pick could even be considered a "bust." Spurs fans are quite spoiled.

Anyways, the Spurs drafted Mahinmi when he was 12 years old, so lighten up. As far as the Spurs are concerned, he progressed in France for 2 years after he was drafted, joined them two years ago when there was still a logjam in the bigman rotation, and proceeded to tear up the D league. The Spurs had him slated to join the rotation last season but his injury derailed that.

I guess since the Spurs drafted him 4 years ago there's some angst, but there's not really much reason to label him a "bust," unless you're drunk.

Potential, Potential, Potential. You have to let it play out. He is 22 years old and he shows tons of potential. You have to be patient with a kid like that. He is 6'11' and he is very athletic. You just can't give up on that. Especially when he is not costing the spurs that much money. You have to let him develop and get stronger. If he still doesn't produce when he's lets say, 25/26 then you can say he is bust. Bust may not even be the right word because how many late first rounders ever produce. Give Ian some time. Patience. If he can get 15-20 minutes a game this year and average 6 pts, 5 rbs, and .5 blks I would not be suprised and I would be loving his development.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

It is such a small investment and low risk that why would you cut ties now? Give him time on an NBA court then make your judgments. It just makes no basketball sense to do anything with regards to Ian right now unless it concerns giving him time to see if he sinks or swims.

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I certainly am not wanting to cut ties with him at this point unless we can get something of nice value for him. I am just concerned about whether or not he can be a contributer in a spot we have to have a contributer.

This is certainly not about money or giving him his opportunity - it's that we have to have somebody succeed at filling that role this year and I don't know if we can count on Ian.

We'll find out THIS SEASON whether or not Ian is a bust. Can't call it right now. To this point, he hasn't been a success or a failure.

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Originally Posted by 50 cent

This is my point - it seems like every year was "going to be the year that Ian breaks out".


Why would we want a contributer like David Lee when we can have a 5 year project that has great potential?

I guess this really is the year that makes or breaks him since he isn't NBDL eligible.

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In 2007 he did exactly what was expected of him and played well in the D-league, averaging 18/8. In 2008 he was all set to play then had two nasty injuries, one of which was misdiagnosed and cause him to miss the season. What exactly hasn't he done that was asked of him?

He knows 2009 is make or break, but it's far too early to write him off.

Comparing him to David Lee is horseshit - 29 other teams missed him too. :rolleyes

Give the kid a freakin break.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

You expected him to be NBA-ready when he was drafted. The Spurs didn't. They drafted him knowing that he wouldn't likely be on an NBA court until he was about 21-22. So, yeah by your expectations he's a bust.. because you expected production when the Spurs expected development.

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Kori, don't tell me what I did or did not expect. I will tell you that.

That's fine he is a project. The Spurs have needed help in the post since 2003, and they have gone through Rasho the Weak, Nazr, Bonner, KT, Drew Gooden, Fabri, Elson, Jackie Butler, Melvin Ely, Robert Horry, and Kevin Willis trying to get Duncan Post help. And instead of taking Lee - a guy who could have helped almost immediately, they took a guy project that has given them 1/17th as many points and 1/23rd as many rebounds as Alfredrick Hughes.

He is a project that hasn't panned out. I hope that changes. But he can be labelled a bust until he does something to change that label. Averaging 5 points and 1 rebound a year since you were drafted = bust.

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Originally Posted by angelbelow

Jessica Biel>Elisha Curthbert>Lindsay Logan

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You fail to realize that is not Elisha Curthbert...


FAIL.

because we want so bad for David Robinson to come back we hope against hope.

IAN WATCH OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.....and get the lead out.

I do not think the Spurs FO is counting on Ian to contribute as much as you are eluding to 50. They have McDyess, Bonner and a slew of other projects such as Blair, Haislip...There are always trades to be made and FA's that shake loose. Spurs still have their LLE to spend as well.

22 year old athletic centers are hard to come by. It would be a pitty to write him off because he had some injuries last year.

Maybe he does great, maybe he doesn't. Makes no sense to write him off now.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I do not think the Spurs FO is counting on Ian to contribute as much as you are eluding to 50. They have McDyess, Bonner and a slew of other projects such as Blair, Haislip...There are always trades to be made and FA's that shake loose. Spurs still have their LLE to spend as well.

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That is precisely my concern. The only thing we can count on with Bonner is that his nuts will shrivel up into his chest the closer we get to May.

After McDyess, we are counting on "a slew of projects."

A 34 year old, a guy that commits about 4 fouls a minute in summer league, and a slew of projects to surround Duncan.

That doesn't sound ideal.

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Originally Posted by 2pac

Kori, don't tell me what I did or did not expect. I will tell you that.

That's fine he is a project. The Spurs have needed help in the post since 2003, and they have gone through Rasho the Weak, Nazr, Bonner, KT, Drew Gooden, Fabri, Elson, Jackie Butler, Melvin Ely, Robert Horry, and Kevin Willis trying to get Duncan Post help. And instead of taking Lee - a guy who could have helped almost immediately, they took a guy project that has given them 1/17th as many points and 1/23rd as many rebounds as Alfredrick Hughes.

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So then blame the FO, not the player.

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Originally Posted by 2pac

He is a project that hasn't panned out. I hope that changes. But he can be labelled a bust until he does something to change that label. Averaging 5 points and 1 rebound a year since you were drafted = bust.

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Again, it's about development. Putting up his NBA stats when he's been in Europe and Austin still trying to get him game together, then getting severly injured, is dumb.

What's I'm wondering is what draft boards would have Ian at right now if he entered the draft from playing overseas. I bet they'd have him pretty high up there. Would you be making the same gripes if he was drafted by the Spurs in the first round this year? (of course, assuming we had a first round pick) That would mean that you haven't been sitting around waiting for him to develop and instead of being upset, you'd be excited to see his potential, just like Blair.

Also, last year was the only year that Ian was supposed to "break out".

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Originally Posted by 50 cent

That is precisely my concern. The only thing we can count on with Bonner is that his nuts will shrivel up into his chest the closer we get to May.

After McDyess, we are counting on "a slew of projects."

A 34 year old, a guy that commits about 4 fouls a minute in summer league, and a slew of projects to surround Duncan.

That doesn't sound ideal.

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That is always going to happen with young players. But Bonner helped this team last year minus RJ and healthy Gino to 3rd in the west. You put McDyess in there to sure up those problems and it looks pretty good.

You cannot have it all. The Spurs needed RJ and a decent big. They got that. Now they just need a very simple defensive minded big to be the third or fourth big in the rotation. There is still money to spend and trades to be made, I fail to see the connection with Ian? Why not blame Blair or put the pressure on him?

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Originally Posted by timvp

emo take

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Originally Posted by 50 cent

When are we just going to admit that he is a bust?

I'm so sick of seeing people post depth charts where he's the starter or even a solid backup.

Blair is already 10x the player Mahinmi is.

Don't get me wrong, I really wish he would pan out, but at some point, I think we just have to realize that he's probably never going to be better than a guy that commits 34 fouls in 22 minutes of summer league or the NBDL and just puts up some nice looking stats because he is more athletic and bigger than everyone else.

Does anybody else feel this way? I know he's been injury ridden but I'm just starting to feel pessimistic that's he's never going to put it all together health-wise and mentally.

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When will you stop making rap CD's and when will your group stop living off your name. Why do you not like the Knicks anyway, let the Spurs fans have our team without any outside support, we love when you guys hate us like Duke haters. It let's us know we are the epitome of the NBA. Oops, I thought you were Curtis Jackson, sorry. :repost:

A lot of people are going to be eating crow when it comes to Ian, the kid can play he just needs to stay healthy.

I liked the 50 cent and 2pac collaboration in that other thread about Lamar Odom. This thread was poorly executed.

Five out of ten stars.

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Originally Posted by timvp

I liked the 50 cent and 2pac collaboration in that other thread about Lamar Odom. This thread was poorly executed.

Five out of ten stars.

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:lmao:lmao:lmao:rollin:blah

Best Case: The Admiral

Worst Case: Francisco Elson

'Nuff said.

Nothing better than two honkeys using black hip hop artist handles talking bout basketball

all that's missing now is the ultimate honkey aggiehoopsfan to chime in like his on the down low mates

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Originally Posted by timvp

I liked the 50 cent and 2pac collaboration in that other thread about Lamar Odom. This thread was poorly executed.

Five out of ten stars.

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Listen to the Rappers. Buss hardballed his players, and they are leaving.

Who said that first? Who was laughed at for saying it? Who is having the last laugh now? :nope

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Originally Posted by Flavor Flav

Nothing better than two honkeys using black hip hop artist handles talking bout basketball

all that's missing now is the ultimate honkey aggiehoopsfan to chime in like his on the down low mates

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I'm African-American. :ihit

haha considering this is San Antonio we're talking about I'm guessing Flavor Flav is a vato