Why does Mahanmi suck so bad?

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Originally Posted by ducks

dude they got duncan
maybe they could pay david robinson also to tutor

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Duncan can't devote the one-on-one time that would be needed to tutor Ian. Almost everyone seems to agree on his "potential" and maybe this is the way to force him to really focus.. build up not only his game but his work ethic and overall attitude as well.

If Mahinmi has even 80% of the success of Kelenna Azubuike (different position, but another D league alum), he will help the Spurs significantly...

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Originally Posted by sabar

Almost every player drafted outside the lottery is a bust. Big deal. Even a big chunk of lotto talent end up being busts.

Not to mention he isn't a bust yet.

Also, no one knew Lee was going to be great, so just stuff the 20/20 hindsight talk. All the draft reports from that time period show that he had major weaknesses, nothing guaranteed, just another prospect.

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http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...g-Report-2752/

Sounds like David Lee was a perfect fit for the Spurs. Athletic. Smart. Decent at multiple facets. But needs better coaching.

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Originally Posted by 2pac

As the 28th pick in the 1996 draft, Priest Lauderdale was considered a major bust.

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Originally Posted by 2pac

In retrospect, the Spurs have made many mistakes during the draft. 5 years later, i'm great at highlighting where they went wrong.

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Originally Posted by 2pac

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...g-Report-2752/

Sounds like David Lee was a perfect fit for the Spurs. Athletic. Smart. Decent at multiple facets. But needs better coaching.

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Easily frustrated if things aren't going his way
that does not sound like a spur player

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Originally Posted by ducks

Easily frustrated if things aren't going his way
that does not sound like a spur player

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Sounds like anyone who has been coached by Isiah Thomas.

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Originally Posted by 2pac

Can't say much? He was a fucking first round pick four years ago.

And in those four years he has scored 21 points and ripped 5 boards from the clutch of the other team's scrubs.

Alfredrick Hughes had a better career than Ian Mahinmi has.

Good thing we didn't waste that pick on some stiff honkey American like David Lee.

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The guy was an end of the first round pick.

You clusterfucks act like he's a lottery pick.

Mahinmi is 22. Give it some damn time.

I don't get some people on here. They act like Mahinmi was a top 10 pick that's now 27 years old and hasn't done shit.

The guy is 22, late first rounder, left overseas for a while, was a D-League All Star and led the Toros to the finals, and then had an injury that made him sit out a year, which was a year where Pop had all intentions of giving Ian enough minutes to earn a spot in the rotation.

For those of you saying he's a bust, and for those of you writing him off, you're crazy.

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Originally Posted by 50 cent

I really hope you are right. I will gladly eat my crow if he becomes a force this season.

It would be great if I were wrong.

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Originally Posted by bigdog

I don't get some people on here. They act like Mahinmi was a top 10 pick that's now 27 years old and hasn't done shit.

The guy is 22, late first rounder, left overseas for a while, was a D-League All Star and led the Toros to the finals, and then had an injury that made him sit out a year, which was a year where Pop had all intentions of giving Ian enough minutes to earn a spot in the rotation.

For those of you saying he's a bust, and for those of you writing him off, you're crazy.

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Agree.Ian's problem is that he's been massively overhyped and overrated, we've seen people suggesting to start him, feed him 30 mins in the NBA, people expecting him to generate near all star numbers, etc. Someone even mentioned his ceiling being David Robinson...

Truth is, he's a late 1st round pick, still a project, with limited upside. If he has a Francisco Elson-like career he'd be a success as a 28th pick. And using Lee being picked later to make a point is totally ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan

Truth is, he's a late 1st round pick, still a project, with limited upside. If he has a Francisco Elson-like career he'd be a success as a 28th pick. And using Lee being picked later to make a point is totally ridiculous.

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agree about the Lee comparison. however, the elson comparison is ridiculous, imo. he'll be a success, as an above average defender averaging 8 pts and 6 boards.

damn, what a hater

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Originally Posted by johngateswhiteley

agree about the Lee comparison. however, the elson comparison is ridiculous, imo. he'll be a success, as an above average defender averaging 8 pts and 6 boards.

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I'd be pleasantly surprised and extremely happy if Mahinmi becomes a solid 8 and 6 contributor and I'm not discounting the possibily of it, what I meant comparing him to Elson was that a late first round pick who can stick in the NBA for a while, like Elson, cannot be considered a bust, but some people are extremely harsh on the kid because of their own baseless overhyped expectations.

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Originally Posted by Texas 2 Step

The guy has several things you cant teach.........6-11, can run, jump, block shots. He is looking like he has developed a good midrange jumper and is smooth at the foul line.

Lets remember, he missed the last 6 months with foot injury, hes 22 and he was picked bottom of the first round. He will play a role for us this year and yes he will need to learn to play D without fouling but that will come with experiance.

In 2 years I expect this guy to avg 15ppg 8rpg and 2bl If he does that the spurs can chalk up another great draft pick plucked from the bottom of the basket that just needed time to develop.

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Does he play with passion and fire? Blair has those things on him and makes Blairs upside far greater.

I expect he won't be with the team in two years or be a deep end of the bench type of player. 15 ppg and 8 rpg he will never see that.

I find it funny how after one, yes ONE summer league game Blair is already better than Ian, i'll wait until they play NBA ball until I rate them higher.

Did Ian go number 1?

He went 28th.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...ry-Guide-2934/

Mahinmi is definitely a project, but not a bust. His career so far reminds me of Jermaine O'Neal. If O'Neal had started out when there was a D League, my guess is that his first couple years would have been spent there too.

For comparison sake, a look back at Jermaine O'Neal's career:


Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1996-97 18 POR NBA 45 0 10.2 1.5 3.4 .451 0.0 0.0 .000 1.0 1.7 .603 0.9 1.9 2.8 0.2 0.0 0.6 0.6 1.0 4.1
1997-98 19 POR NBA 60 9 13.5 1.9 3.9 .485 0.0 0.0 .000 0.8 1.5 .506 1.3 2.0 3.4 0.3 0.3 1.0 0.9 1.7 4.5
1998-99 20 POR NBA 35 1 8.9 1.0 2.4 .434 0.0 0.0 .000 0.5 1.0 .514 1.2 1.6 2.8 0.4 0.1 0.4 0.4 1.2 2.6
1999-00 21 POR NBA 70 8 12.3 1.5 3.2 .486 0.0 0.0 .000 0.8 1.4 .582 1.4 1.9 3.3 0.3 0.2 0.8 0.7 1.8 3.9
2000-01 22 IND NBA 81 80 32.6 5.0 10.7 .465 0.0 0.1 .000 2.9 4.8 .601 3.1 6.7 9.8 1.2 0.6 2.8 2.0 3.5 12.9
2001-02 23 IND NBA 72 72 37.6 7.5 15.7 .479 0.0 0.2 .071 3.9 5.7 .688 2.6 7.9 10.5 1.6 0.6 2.3 2.4 3.7 19.0
2002-03 24 IND NBA 77 76 37.2 7.9 16.4 .484 0.1 0.3 .333 4.8 6.6 .731 2.6 7.7 10.3 2.0 0.9 2.3 2.3 3.6 20.8
2003-04 25 IND NBA 78 78 35.7 7.8 17.9 .434 0.0 0.2 .111 4.5 5.9 .757 2.5 7.5 10.0 2.1 0.8 2.6 2.3 3.2 20.1
2004-05 26 IND NBA 44 41 34.8 8.8 19.4 .452 0.0 0.1 .167 6.7 8.9 .754 1.9 6.9 8.8 1.9 0.6 2.0 3.0 3.9 24.3
2005-06 27 IND NBA 51 47 35.3 7.5 15.8 .472 0.1 0.2 .300 5.1 7.2 .709 2.0 7.3 9.3 2.6 0.5 2.3 3.0 3.5 20.1
2006-07 28 IND NBA 69 69 35.6 7.2 16.5 .436 0.0 0.1 .000 5.0 6.5 .767 2.2 7.4 9.6 2.4 0.7 2.6 2.9 3.4 19.4
2007-08 29 IND NBA 42 34 28.7 5.4 12.2 .439 0.0 0.1 .000 2.9 3.9 .742 2.0 4.8 6.7 2.2 0.5 2.1 2.5 3.1 13.6
2008-09 30 TOT NBA 68 61 29.8 5.4 11.3 .474 0.0 0.0 .000 2.6 3.3 .788 1.9 4.5 6.4 1.8 0.4 2.0 2.1 3.1 13.3
2008-09 30 TOR NBA 41 34 29.7 5.4 11.3 .473 0.0 0.0 .000 2.8 3.5 .810 1.7 5.3 7.0 1.6 0.4 2.0 2.2 3.2 13.5
2008-09 30 MIA NBA 27 27 30.0 5.4 11.3 .475 0.0 0.0 2.2 3.0 .750 2.0 3.3 5.4 2.0 0.4 2.0 1.9 3.0 13.0
Career NBA 792 576 28.4 5.5 11.9 .461 0.0 0.1 .152 3.3 4.6 .710 2.1 5.5 7.6 1.5 0.5 1.9 2.0 2.9 14.3


Jermaine's 5th year, when he was 22 is when he finally started to see the court on a regular basis, and it was his 6th year that he became a really impactful player. I think Ian has similar potential. Way too early to call him a bust.

People just need to get off his ass already....we drafted him young and at the end of the first round....o and he still young!!!...he still has PLENTY OF UPSIDE! and he hasnt had chance to play in the nba yet due to his injury last year so just sit back and let him have his chance to show what he can do this year then you can start to judge

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Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan

Agree.Ian's problem is that he's been massively overhyped and overrated, we've seen people suggesting to start him, feed him 30 mins in the NBA, people expecting him to generate near all star numbers, etc. Someone even mentioned his ceiling being David Robinson...

Truth is, he's a late 1st round pick, still a project, with limited upside. If he has a Francisco Elson-like career he'd be a success as a 28th pick. And using Lee being picked later to make a point is totally ridiculous.

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:guffaw

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Originally Posted by 50 cent

When are we just going to admit that he is a bust?

I'm so sick of seeing people post depth charts where he's the starter or even a solid backup.

Blair is already 10x the player Mahinmi is.

Don't get me wrong, I really wish he would pan out, but at some point, I think we just have to realize that he's probably never going to be better than a guy that commits 34 fouls in 22 minutes of summer league or the NBDL and just puts up some nice looking stats because he is more athletic and bigger than everyone else.

Does anybody else feel this way? I know he's been injury ridden but I'm just starting to feel pessimistic that's he's never going to put it all together health-wise and mentally.

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I agree completely. I lol every time I see another post about how much they like this guy. Sometimes Spurs fans just put the blinders on, stick their fingers in their ears and start yelling NANANANANANANA. This guy is a bum people, get over him.

Damn the way Lindsay Lohan's tits are bouncing in the thread beginning is awesome. I just want to motorboat them all night long.

I don't think Mahanmi is a bust but people are wrong by saying if he is an 8 and 6 guy he will have fit where he was drafted. That is true but the Spurs drafted him as a project player 4-5 years down the line. His production better get to the 14 and 8 with over a block to make it worthwhile as a draft pick. The spurs could have taken someone who could play immediately and either bust out and have the spurs cut loses or become a rotation player. The Spurs could have had a rotation player for 4 years now and that is what Mahinmi needs to replace

you know he had 16 boards last game?