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Ok, If Gist continues his poor play do you think he should go back to Europe for one more year or do you think he should play for the Toros? I am hoping he can bouce back but for some reason I don't think we are seeing the real Gist?
So for his development do you think it would be in his best interest to play for the Toros or go back to Europe and try to develope into the SF role we are needing?
I think he may have a shot to prove himself in training camp and preseason games. The worst thing that happened to Gist was Blair.
IF he continues his poor play, I would want him to return to Europe.
IF he shows up and plays with energy and effort but is inconsistent then we should keep him in Austin.
IF he somehow blows up and starts putting up GREAT numbers while having a positive impact on the team and continues to do this during the preseason then we should think about bringing in.
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Originally Posted by angelbelow
I think Gist should play in Austin for the Toros. He has already done the Europe gig and I think it would do him good to learn the system better up in Austin. In Austin the Spurs can develop him into whatever position they want. That way he could be brought up if they needed him midseason because of injuries or a trade to fill out the roster.
i think Spurs saved something from MLE and Blairs contract for him.
Actually not. Blair was going to be on the team in any event. The worst thing that happened to Gist was Marcus Haislip.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc
No way, MLE is spent after Blair. He would be signing for the minimum so it doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by biziofromdowntown
Worst thing that happened to Gist was his mental weak.
yea i was hoping id get to enjoy gist this summer league..
even romel beck's got me more excited lol..
Gist is a bit of a mystery. He doesn't seem strong enough to play the 4 at the NBA level and he doesn't seem to have the skill set to be a 3. He seems to be strictly a small ball 4. Is such a situational player worth a roster spot?
He would help himself immensely over the next few games if he started showing some real aggression at the offensive end...hitting the rim hard and knocking down those outside jumpers like he did overseas.
From what I've seen so far he has gotten worse after a year in Europe, so I don't think sending him back would be a good plan.
id jus feel kinda sorry for him because the guy seemed so enthused to make the roster but i dunno..
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Originally Posted by zepn
He's use to play the 4 against smaller players in Europe...as PF in Europe he could rock. not the same in NBA
Exactly...and maybe that is his problem right now. Perhaps a season in Austin would be beneficial for him, as he would be matched up against bigger, more physical players.Quote:
Originally Posted by biziofromdowntown
That's a good point, perhaps putting him on the Toros instead of sending him back to Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by biziofromdowntown
I'm thinking this might make the most sense. But hes definitely not ready for the big club.Quote:
Originally Posted by angelbelow
I don't think the Spurs are looking to have 7 bigs on the roster, so unless they move someone or he starts playing out of his mind, he's not going to be on the team. I was really looking forward to see what he could do, but he just hasn't shown up.
And it's not just Blair: the Haislip signing came out of nowhere. So, we'll see.
Tonight --> double-double for Gist.
Europe pays better than the d-league, so I highly doubt Gist has any plans to be a toro unless he's got an NBA contract or believes he'll get an NBA contract sometime during the year.
Not with the Spurs this year. Blair & Haislip pretty much ensured that.
I can easily seem back overseas if he doesn't play well the rest of the SL. I doubt he would want to be with the Toros, unless he had a contract with the Spurs, which seems unlikely right now.
all bases covered...Quote:
Originally Posted by angelbelow
I don't think it's completely out of the question that the Spurs could sign Gist at the minimum and send him to the Toros. The Toros will be losing a lot of firepower in Williams and Hairston, so Gist would have a chance to get a lot of time with the ball in his hands.
If he continues like this the best thing would be for him to go back to europe for a year.
Saves money and saves a roster spot for a 3rd point.
I'm putting my money on Marcus Williams being the third point.Quote:
Originally Posted by EricB
If he doesn't show something in SL I'd rather him spend the year with the Toros like Hairston and Williams have done.
My understanding was that Gist was in the process of learning the SF position and that his future with the Spurs was in that direction. When you look at the Spurs roster they are loaded with PF's, but they have room for a 5/6th SF/SG. If he can make that transition he has a better chance to make the team. I'm not sure he has the footwork or speed on the perimeter to make it.
IMO it was not productive having him play the season in Europe as a 4. He should have been learning the SF position if that really is where the Spurs intend to play him.
I'd prefer he return to Europe and play in a better league.
If the Spurs think he is ever going to play the three, he should play in Austin. If Dwayne Jones and Eric Dawson come back, Gist could easily start at SF and play against some really quick competition on the perimeter.
If they think he is strictly a four, he can go back to Europe.
You don't think he'd benefit with the Toros more? The same way Hairston and Williams went?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheProfessor
Hairston and Williams learned how to play new positions on the Toros as well.
I think that would be better for Gist than returning to Europe and continuing to play a position that won't translate to the NBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Ehhh...I'm not convinced he can play the three at this point. If there's an extra roster spot just sitting there, then yeah, bring him over. I assume Hairston will be in SA with Williams. Just not sure how many roster spots there will be to go around...
Can he play in Austin with the Toros while not being signed to the team, or do they have to waive their rights to him first?Quote:
Originally Posted by EricB
Even doing so wouldn't be a bad idea...he could really benefit from playing a year in the Spurs system, and since he's clearly not ready I don't think there would be much chance of him getting scooped up by another team.
Last year he just went out and hustled his ass off, but he's clearly overthinking his role and second-guessing himself this summer. Again, finding his niche in the Spurs system could greatly benefit his long-term prospects with the club.
He has to be a 3 or a 4 and not something in between. This probably explains his tentativeness unlike last year when he was just playing his natural game at PF. The question is if he has the skills and quickness to transition to SF.. the Spurs are loaded at PF now and maybe the FO saw this coming when they signed Haislip who is a more proven player.
We need to wait until the Rocky Mountain tournament. That is the better one in my opinion. If he can play well there he has a shot of sticking around and maybe seeing some limited playing time. However, no matter what happens, I do not see him getting serious minutes with as deep as this team has gotten. He is not better then Harriston or Blair
We're going to be waiting a very long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by elbamba
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
You got that right...lol:rollin
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Originally Posted by angelbelow
Yeah, I'm going along with this.
Too bad he has faltered so badly so far but, when everything is on the line, you gotta bring it. Gist & McClinton have a long, hard, uphill climb if things don't change drastically.......and in a hurry!
Just saw that. That sucks, I always liked the Rocky Mountain Revue.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I never really understood the hype on Gist. I don't really care where he plays because he not going to help the Spurs any time soon.