Poor McClinton

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Originally Posted by hsxvvd

Give him 40 minutes. Not like it counts anyway, and it's more important that he gets going than any other SL player at this point.

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I agree. Let him get all the jitters out of the way and see what he can do.

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Originally Posted by elbamba

His shot isn't over. He is in a slump but all great shooters find a way to get out of it. Tolliver lit it up last year but couldn't hit a jumper for his life when he actually played for the Spurs.

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To be honest I think that Tolliver was going to do well until one of his parents passed away. For some people that is a very traumatic event and probably played a major role in his play.

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Originally Posted by hsxvvd

Give him 40 minutes. Not like it counts anyway, and it's more important that he gets going than any other SL player at this point.

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Yeah, I have no clue why Newman isn't playing him more. We don't need to see Taylor. Beck isn't even a very interesting prospect.

No reason for McClinton not to be playing 25-30 minutes at least.

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Originally Posted by SouthTexasRancher

Time spent in Austin with the Toros might be just what the doctor ordered...hopefully. But, it's going to really take something for him to make it as a SG with his lack of height. Too bad he wasn't able to smoke em' in the first 3 games.

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He's going to be in camp, so if it's just a slump, we'll find out soon enough. This is the big difference between being a shooter and being a scorer, like Hill.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Hill last year >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McClinton this year

Hill was rebounding and defending like crazy. He was also getting to the hoop and he wasn't turning the ball over at all. Hill couldn't score but he at least looked like an NBA player.

McClinton looks like a fan who wandered onto the court.

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:lmao That sucks though because I am rooting for this guy since he is a Baltimore product.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Yeah, I have no clue why Newman isn't playing him more. We don't need to see Taylor. Beck isn't even a very interesting prospect.

No reason for McClinton not to be playing 25-30 minutes at least.

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He's one of those guys that thinks a coach can win a game making good decisions. Good coaches try hard to avoid bad decisions, and manage to lose fewer games.

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Originally Posted by BackHome

To be honest I think that Tolliver was going to do well until one of his parents passed away. For some people that is a very traumatic event and probably played a major role in his play.

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It's been a year. He's playing for New Orleans right now.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

He's going to be in camp, so if it's just a slump, we'll find out soon enough. This is the big difference between being a shooter and being a scorer, like Hill.

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Hopefully for McClinton his defensive play will still be a ++ when the coaching staff does its final evaluation. I like the kid and his positive attitude and sincerely hope he can make it.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Due to his struggles, he'll probably be more open to going over to Europe.

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If he decides to go to Europe, in which league could he play? I'm wondering where in Europe does Pop have contacts. Could McClinton end up on an Italian team like Gist or does he go to France?

How are they actually using Jack?

Are they leaving him on an island to create for his self and others, or are they actually setting screens and pin-downs to free him up?

I almost feel they need to just give the team the objective of getting Jack a chance to break loose by giving him the Hamilton/Miller/House treatment on the offensive end so they can see what they have.

Who knows, if that shot starts falling, the space to drive, dish, and shoot might finally appear for him..

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Originally Posted by __JaG__

Hill looked like complete shit in last years SL.

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Yes, but Hill looked like he belonged. He was doing NBA level things, even though his shooting/finishing was poor. You could tell Hill belonged.

Edit: just read entire thread, this was already stated.

I'm pretty sure he will get a look in Austin.

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Originally Posted by BLACKJACK21

How are they actually using Jack?

Are they leaving him on an island to create for his self and others, or are they actually setting screens and pin-downs to free him up?

I almost feel they need to just give the team the objective of getting Jack a chance to break loose by giving him the Hamilton/Miller/House treatment on the offensive end so they can see what they have.

Who knows, if that shot starts falling, the space to drive, dish, and shoot might finally appear for him..

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The last couple of games, they've run plays to specifically free him up early on -- including pin-downs and multiple screens. He's gotten a few looks and hasn't knocked them down. Newman eventually gives up on him but he's given him shots early to prove he can contribute.

But yeah, I think just making one bucket would do wonders for him.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Yes, but Hill looked like he belonged. He was doing NBA level things

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What the hell summer league games were you watching? He looked like complete shit. He was getting schooled by any guard with talent especially Mayo and he shot 7% from the field.... 7%!!!

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Originally Posted by timvp

The last couple of games, they've run plays to specifically free him up early on -- including pin-downs and multiple screens. He's gotten a few looks and hasn't knocked them down. Newman eventually gives up on him but he's given him shots early to prove he can contribute.

But yeah, I think just making one bucket would do wonders for him.

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Thanks.

Yeah, it's a fine line with players who don't possess the prototypical build or elite athleticism.

You've got to believe playing a complimentary role to dominate players like Duncan, Parker and Ginobili would also do wonders for his success rate with all the extra daylight and opportunities he'd have to get on track.

Hopefully we get that chance to see how he'd fare.

At this point, Jack needs a bucket and a hug.:lol

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Originally Posted by DMX7

What the hell summer league games were you watching? He looked like complete shit. He was getting schooled by any guard with talent especially Mayo and he shot 7% from the field.... 7%!!!

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You just do not get it. He shot terrible, but he still got to the rim very easily. He just could not finish. He was a known scorer trying to be converted into a pg. He rebounded very well, was very athletic compared to most and had the length/defense to harass even OJ Mayo.

He looked like a NBA player playing poorly. He looked like he belonged. Some guys just do not fit the bill. You could clearly see Hill had game if you looked beyond the poor shooting.

when i saw the stats from the game tonight and saw he went 0-4...i was like "jesus christ what a poor sonofabitch. that must SUCK."

if i were him i'd go to europe. Spain is an awesome country.

I think there's a possibility he could go to Europe or somewhere else overseas, but I envision him with the Toros this season. I expect Gist to be back overseas.

Once he hits a shot, I think he'll get into a rhythm.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

You just do not get it. He shot terrible, but he still got to the rim very easily. He just could not finish. He was a known scorer trying to be converted into a pg. He rebounded very well, was very athletic compared to most and had the length/defense to harass even OJ Mayo.

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He was not playing good defense... just No.

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Originally Posted by DMX7

He was not playing good defense... just No.

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Well you are entitled to your own opinion but I think he played very well in many aspects except for scoring. Didn't he hold OJ Mayo to like 5-16 shooting?

I knew as soon as we drafted this kid that he was going to the NBDL. No surprise here.

Like I said before when we drafted him... He is not a NBA player.... Too Short very undersized... Kid is very nice.. But being nice wont cut it... The only thing he got going on when we drafted him is his shot. A lot of you guys have so much hype for this kid with his shot.. In summer league.. he is having a hard time... Imagine the real deal...

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Originally Posted by timvp

McClinton looks like a fan who wandered onto the court.

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:lmao

I'm still convinced that McClinton was a good pick.
however, we need to see the big picture anyhow.
even if he had played decent till now, the solid play from the other young Spurs players would have reduced his chance to make the roster to more or less zero anyhow.
youth movement, athleticism, young legs and stuff like that is all great, but Spurs are still a contender and try to win another title the next 2 years. they don't need to turn into a youngster team, better: they can't, if they want to win.
it looks almost as a sure bet that next season Hill, Blair, Hairston, Ian and maybe even M.Williams will be on the roster. that's 5 rookies or sophomores. that's quite a lot.
so currently neither Gist nor McClinton will have a big chance to also make the roster, even if they start to play well. (only small chance might be, that one outplays Williams and even this wouldn't guarantee a roster spot).