I agree. How does his defense look. Even though its a glorified showcase and defense is not big. I'm just asking because defenders usually defend any and everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
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I agree. How does his defense look. Even though its a glorified showcase and defense is not big. I'm just asking because defenders usually defend any and everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
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Originally Posted by timvp
Well they should have known drafting a 6'0" shooting guard would have little chance of panning out.
What is it with Popovich's obsession with these short shooting/combo guards? Got 1 already, why get another?
There have to be a couple hundred little guys who can hit open jump shots but do little else floating around the periphery of pro basketball. What makes Jack McClinton so special that people are advocating having the Spurs structure their whole offense around making him succeed? It seems to me the question should be what he can give the team, rather than what the team can give him.
My guess is that he was thinking that little guys who can generate their own offense are hard to contain with the NBA's current rules on defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
However, it appears to be that McClinton can't create his own offense.
I suggest for him to pay for the Toros.:downspin:
I think you've got it backwards. Late in the second round all the guys who can generate their own offense are long gone. The Spurs were looking for guys who they thought might be able to fill a role. In McClinton's case the Spurs saw, and hopefully still see, a guy who can knock down open jump shots and play good enough defense to justify his time on the court. McClinton's problem is that he's not getting any open shots. So in SL the Spurs have to try to create some of those situations for him, whereas if he were in an actual NBA game those situations would occur naturally as the defense would be double teaming Tim Duncan, getting broken down by Tony Parker, etc. You don't see too many teams doubling guys in the summer league. Denver's SL team being an exception who for some reason really wanted to keep doubleteaming George Hill in the backcourt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extra Stout
Well then to repeat my other comment in slightly different terms, six-foot shooting guards who can knock down open shots are a dime a dozen. What's so special about Jack McClinton?Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
As of right now, nothing other than his being the guy who the Spurs used a draft pick on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extra Stout
He was the best shooter in the country last year maybe? Just maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Extra Stout
Also all we need for him is solid D and able to knock down open 3s.
his name. he sounds like a cowboy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extra Stout
I agree about McClinton will find his shot eventually, especially if he gets some screens, etc. I'm more worried about his defense. Even though the Spurs thought he played really good D when they worked him out, he seems too small and relatively too slow to guard players in the NBA. Hope I'm wrong, he seems like a good guy. He might do well in Europe. If he goes, I hope he goes to Latvia. I lived in Riga two years, and I could hook him up with some stunning beauties! :tongue:tongue
i'm sure he would dig those Slavic babes. i've heard the streets of Poland are filled with hotties. i assume Latvia is as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
We should also wait until training camp to judge Jack. Do you think Reggie Miller would have done well in summer league? No, he'd be too skinny, too slow and need someone else to help set up his shot. But given time, obviously, Reggie (just like Jack) had range.
The problem is Reggie was something like six inches taller than Jack. It'll come back to his defense.
Yes, there are plenty of Slavic babes Riga is 50% Russian, but Latvians themselves are Balts red hair, green/blue eyes. And the hybred (Russian father/Latvian mom) is out of this world. I live in Ukraine now, and even this isn't as good as Riga. Sigh....Quote:
Originally Posted by peskypesky
Back to Jack, make the Spurs, then you'll have no women troubles (except maybe in Phoenix.)
So shooting well in college got him drafted. Great. That got him in the door.Quote:
Originally Posted by RenaldoBalkman
What I don't understand is how he can then come out and show absolutely nothing on the floor, and half the board starts apologizing for him because he doesn't have Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, and Tony Parker to create shots for him. That is just poor thinking.
You could probably go down to the local rec league and find some guy six feet tall who could hit open shots if Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, and Tony Parker created them for him.
You could look on the NBA waiver wire and find a guy three or four inches taller who could hit open shots if Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, and Tony Parker created them for him, and play some D to boot.
Make the kid show something.
He doesnt need Parker, Ginobi, or Duncan to create for him. He needs an offense. You know, some players do need organized offense to play well. I mean he did have 35 points against Duke, 34 against UNC and then 34 against Wake Forest. Back to Back to Back. So obviously, he can score, he needs organization though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extra Stout
Yet those waiver wires are nowhere to be found? Reggie Williams out of VMI 2 years ago led the nation in scoring but didnt even get drafted or an invite to training camp or even an invite to SL. Brandon Heath - San Diego State has the exact same story as Reggie Williams. Obviously the Spurs saw something and maybe fans like you should wait until it is all said and done instead of nit picking like this.
I think the Spurs saw a guy who was worth taking a flyer on. Second-round picks are longshots, except in freak cases like DeJuan Blair that leave every other GM in the league smacking their foreheads.Quote:
Originally Posted by RenaldoBalkman
Yet half the posters here already have him playing regular minutes in the guard rotation.
On the Spurs, players earn minutes by showing something. So far, he is showing nothing. He will keep getting opportunities up through training camp. If in training camp with the regulars he suddenly turns into the second coming of Steve Kerr, marvelous.
But so far he has shown nothing and is entitled to nothing.
OK, I think I understand the McClinton apologists now. It doesn't have anything to do with whether McClinton is any good. It's all about how the front office is sainted and can do no wrong, so the McClinton pick can't be a mistake because they don't make mistakes.
There is almost no such thing as a mistake with the 53rd pick in the draft. Relax.
Seriously? 2 days later you guys are sharting on him. Get real.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident ."
maybe it will be an "opposite" thing like with Tolliver. Tolliver shot great last summer league, then did the opposite during NBA.
So Jack's pulling a George Costanza?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender
It is a confidence thing you're exactly right but a little time down in Austin and I'm sure he'll be looking as good as RC and Pop thought when they drafted him maybe by then he'll developed enough confidence in himself and his game that he'll have that Eddie House effect on the Spurs in time for the playoffs GO SPURS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude, you need to go back and count the number of shots Mayo took that night. You could not be more completely wrong with that statement unless you called him George Bell; he showed he could play NBA level defense in that game. When a guy who led the nation in scoring misses layups and open shots, you don't worry about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMX7
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Originally Posted by Extra Stout
But you should know that if Blair didn't fall to the second round, they'd draft Mcclinton using the 37th pick.