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Re: What if we started Blair???
i dont think the spurs payed mcdyess 5 mil to come off the bench this season
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Re: What if we started Blair???
Personally, the idea of Bonner in a specialist role makes sense to me.
Just don't ask him to do anything more then spread the floor for 10-15 minutes a game.
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Re: What if we started Blair???
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Originally Posted by
SenorSpur
A delicious thought that I, and apparently many others, have thought about.
Knowing the complexity of the Spurs offense and Pop's conversative approach toward most rookies, I wouldn't count on seeing it happen this year. Probably next year.
me too, especially considering dyess preferred to come off the bench in detroit. But Blair is a rookie, so Its probably not gonna happen.
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Re: What if we started Blair???
I see McDyess starting, but coming out of the game for Blair like Mason for Ginobili. However, unlike Mason, McDyess will be the big next to Duncan in crunch time.
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Re: What if we started Blair???
Bad move. Blair can't stretch the defense so paint would be crowded for TP ...any team with a decent PF would put him in pnr ...and he is not mobile enough to handle the better pnr combos ...in the NBA ...
Blair also woul;d be better served playing against the smaller backup NBA frontcourts similar to what he face in college and summer league ...
No doubt Blair was a steal ...shoot Lakers should of taken him if we knew Lamar was going to be this much trouble but if he starts I would LOVE that we would then just pnt with Gasol Kobe and we murder that matchup until Mcdyess comes in ...
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And Blair is GREAT rebounder but MCdyess is a better overall player ..you guys on here kill me.
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Originally Posted by
Dex
Seriously.
I don't want extended minutes for Bonner either, but he was the 8th best 3-pt shooter in the league last year, and hit the 2nd most of said shots out of the Top 10. Can't be the worst guy to have near the end of the bench.
It's not his fault Pop got high on peyote and mistook him for a Center.
Yeah man his 3's really killed in the playoffs. :rolleyes Bonner's trash get rid of him.
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Re: What if we started Blair???
McDyess wouldn't have a problem coming off the bench. He did it for the start of the seaon last year.
The thing is, the more minutes he plays, the better he plays. Last season there were times when you know the Piston coaching staff were thinking they needed to get Dice off the floor and get him some rest. The problem always was that Dice was the guy hitting the shots, and making the plays.
Trust me, once he gets going you'll want him out on the floor as much as possible.
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Re: What if we started Blair???
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Originally Posted by
Killakobe81
No doubt Blair was a steal ...shoot Lakers should of taken him if we knew Lamar was going to be this much trouble but if he starts I would LOVE that we would then just pnt with Gasol Kobe and we murder that matchup until Mcdyess comes in ...
Murder? I respect Gasol's game, but isn't Blair the tough, physical kind of player that gives Gasol so much trouble?
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Re: What if we started Blair???
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Originally Posted by
init2winit
I got beef with Bonner coming in for any amount of minutes. His role is to high 5 his teammates when they go sit down and get them a gatorade.
Yes because he made 118 3pts (tied with Kobe for 39th in the league) while shooting 44% and playing 24 minutes with solid if not great defense. You are absolutely right that the Spurs could not use this type of player on the team.
Yes Bonner did not play well in the 5 playoff games we had, but Tony and Hill were the only Spurs to play well so why is Bonner singled out. (attacking Pop for not playing Hill should happen more than attacking Bonner for struggling)
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Re: What if we started Blair???
we have to stop this overhyping...maybe he will be a breakthough player from day one, maybe just a good secondrounder.
keep your coolness!
what has he proved until now...is Joey dorsey the second coming of Dwight howard? No he isnt! Hopefulle Blair will be great and maybe even a starter for us this year. But wait until at least december!
every second thread is about him..."is he the second best pick?", "is he gonna start?", and so on and so on...every bonner tread is a Blai thread...every Summerleague thread is a Blair thread...
Hey, I'm just as excided as you, but at this point he is a nice second round pick, which will have to earn minutes behind Timmy, Dyess and Bonner!
Hopefully you can blame me for writing that come `10!
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Team Discipline:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Antonio Mcdyess
SF-RJ
SG-Roger Mason
PG-Tony Parker
Team Energy:
C-Ian Mahinmi
PF-Dejuan Blair
SF-Malik Hairston
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-George Hill
Team Length:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Ian Mahinmi
SF-Marcus Haislip/James Gist
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-George Hill
Team Speed:
C-Ian Mahinmi
PF-Marcus Haislip/James Gist
SF-RJ
SG-George Hill
PG-Tony Parker
Team Small Ball:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Marcus Haislip/James Gist
SF-Manu Ginobili
SG-George Hill
PG-Tony Parker
Team Defense:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Antonio Mcdyess
SF-RJ
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-George Hill
Team Shooter:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Matt Bonner
SF-Michael Finley
SG-Roger Mason
PG-Manu Ginobili
Team Rebound:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Dejuan Blair
SF-Malik Hairston
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-George Hill
Team Down by or Up by 30 in the 4th:
C-Matt Bonner
PF-Marcus Haislip/James Gist
SF-Michael Finley
SG-Malik Hairston
PG-Roger Mason
Team Closer:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Antonio Mcdyess
SF-RJ
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-Tony Parker
It doesn't matter who starts. What matters is that the right lineup is out their on the court in the right situation. Pop will decide, we will enjoy.
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Re: What if we started Blair???
would prefer a backup center that can play defense and block shots...so we can have a lineup or either center - mcdyness or center - blair....
mcdyness - blair just to small
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I see Blair as a Ginobili type in that he's only gonna be good in bursts so to speak.
20 24 minutes a game, that good burst at the end of the first beginning middle second, and then end of the third finish game if he's playing better than Dyess.
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Re: What if we started Blair???
Scott brings up a great point.
Pop is a matchup coach and if the roster goes forward as is, he has a gigantic amount of options, matchups, ways to go with his roster.
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Re: What if we started Blair???
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Originally Posted by
vander
man, you certainly think you know a lot about Spurs basketball. :lol
there's a better chance of Bonner taking minutes from McDyess than Ian taking minutes from Bonner. Bonner's D is solid, better than anything Ian could amount to this year yet.
if Ian keeps playing the way he's been playing in Summer League and shows more progress, Bon Bon will be the de facto waterboy.
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Originally Posted by
vander
Blair will be more of a scorer than TD. TD will struggle to create shots for himself now.
:rollin
because TD will miss all that athleticism and jumping ability that he used to get shots the last few years?????
Duncan has been using strength, smarts, and fundamentals to get most of his shots since 2005. Those aren't going to deteriorate for a while still.
Assuming that his knees can come back to somewhere near full strength, we'll notice his game decline on the defense end long before it goes offensively.
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Re: What if we started Blair???
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Originally Posted by
scottspurs
Team Discipline:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Antonio Mcdyess
SF-RJ
SG-Roger Mason
PG-Tony Parker
Team Energy:
C-Ian Mahinmi
PF-Dejuan Blair
SF-Malik Hairston
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-George Hill
Team Length:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Ian Mahinmi
SF-Marcus Haislip/James Gist
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-George Hill
Team Speed:
C-Ian Mahinmi
PF-Marcus Haislip/James Gist
SF-RJ
SG-George Hill
PG-Tony Parker
Team Small Ball:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Marcus Haislip/James Gist
SF-Manu Ginobili
SG-George Hill
PG-Tony Parker
Team Defense:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Antonio Mcdyess
SF-RJ
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-George Hill
Team Shooter:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Matt Bonner
SF-Michael Finley
SG-Roger Mason
PG-Manu Ginobili
Team Rebound:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Dejuan Blair
SF-Malik Hairston
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-George Hill
Team Down by or Up by 30 in the 4th:
C-Matt Bonner
PF-Marcus Haislip/James Gist
SF-Michael Finley
SG-Malik Hairston
PG-Roger Mason
Team Closer:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Antonio Mcdyess
SF-RJ
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-Tony Parker
It doesn't matter who starts. What matters is that the right lineup is out their on the court in the right situation. Pop will decide, we will enjoy.
cannot wait to see the team closer in action
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Re: What if we started Blair???
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Originally Posted by
scottspurs
Team Discipline:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Antonio Mcdyess
SF-RJ
SG-Roger Mason
PG-Tony Parker
Team Energy:
C-Ian Mahinmi
PF-Dejuan Blair
SF-Malik Hairston
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-George Hill
Team Length:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Ian Mahinmi
SF-Marcus Haislip/James Gist
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-George Hill
Team Speed:
C-Ian Mahinmi
PF-Marcus Haislip/James Gist
SF-RJ
SG-George Hill
PG-Tony Parker
Team Small Ball:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Marcus Haislip/James Gist
SF-Manu Ginobili
SG-George Hill
PG-Tony Parker
Team Defense:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Antonio Mcdyess
SF-RJ
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-George Hill
Team Shooter:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Matt Bonner
SF-Michael Finley
SG-Roger Mason
PG-Manu Ginobili
Team Rebound:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Dejuan Blair
SF-Malik Hairston
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-George Hill
Team Down by or Up by 30 in the 4th:
C-Matt Bonner
PF-Marcus Haislip/James Gist
SF-Michael Finley
SG-Malik Hairston
PG-Roger Mason
Team Closer:
C-Tim Duncan
PF-Antonio Mcdyess
SF-RJ
SG-Manu Ginobili
PG-Tony Parker
It doesn't matter who starts. What matters is that the right lineup is out their on the court in the right situation. Pop will decide, we will enjoy.
a little bit too easy...you could use a computer to do the subing!
still have to decide who can do what on which opponent and which player has a ood day in certain areas.
but overall it shows our versatility
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Originally Posted by
ohmwrecker
Murder? I respect Gasol's game, but isn't Blair the tough, physical kind of player that gives Gasol so much trouble?
pnr defense is about mobility Shaq sucks at it too ...kg is betterat it than Perkins ...in the low block? i agree blair has advantage ..
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you guys should know with ginobli as experience its not about who starts its about who finishes the games
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Originally Posted by
coyotes_geek
We're talking bench minutes here. Is a Blair-Bonner frontcourt going to be that much worse defensively than a Bonner-Thomas one was last year? Yes, the Spurs would have to have Manu and Jefferson out there with them, but so what? You've got a big 4. You're going to want at least 2 of them out there together at all times anyways.
I trust Kurt Thomas a lot more defensively than I do Blair..I know DeJuan is more mobile, but I don't think he's going to be better than an average defender this season..I just wouldn't trust having 2 undersized defenders together in the frontcourt, one of them being a rookie..if it's for like 5 minutes, then maybe, but otherwise, they would get killed by any above average big man IMO..
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Nope. Hill, Ginobili, Hairston, Haislip, Mahinmi and Blair is an insane second lineup, and pop likes giving proven vets more minutes.
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Re: What if we started Blair???
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Originally Posted by
loveforthegame
I could see Pop toying with that at some point in the season.
But I'm liking the idea of Blair's energy mixing with Ginobli and Hills in the 2nd unit.
mhmm.