even without Odom Lakers have a great trio in Kobe, Gasol and Artest with Bynum staying heathly thats another big scoring option too. L.A without Odom won;t be favourites to win it all but still would have a good chance at making the finals.
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even without Odom Lakers have a great trio in Kobe, Gasol and Artest with Bynum staying heathly thats another big scoring option too. L.A without Odom won;t be favourites to win it all but still would have a good chance at making the finals.
I don't disagree at all about the Lakers still being a legit title contender without Odom, that's obvious..no way they're the favorites without him though, their bench would be extremely weak, and Bynum is still a question mark right now..
a better analogy would have been that they are a mindless grouping of lemmings committing mass suicide. in other words they're just toting the company line.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Odom was a much bigger matchup problem than Laker fans are letting on. At times, the Lakers rolled with Bynum, Gasol and Odom on the frontcourt. You're talking about 2 7 footers and another who's 6'10" with long arms. offensively and defensively that's tough.
Again, what people fail to mention about Artest is that he's not able to guard the quick PGs like Ariza could. That leaves either Kobe or Fisher to guard Parker. And if Gino is healthy, then I wouldn't want Artest trying to guard him either. Artest is a physical defender but Gino is too crafty and quick for Artest to body up. So the only legit option for that is Kobe. But wait, Kobe has to guard Parker.
So the Spurs actually have the advantage over the Lakers on the perimeter as they'd have two legit scoring threats that can create their own shot, initiate the offense, hit outside shots and get to the rim.
Artest and RJ are a wash as are Duncan and Gasol. So that basically leaves Bynum vs McDyess. You know what you're getting with McDyess but Bynum is such a headcase that you don't know what kind of player he's going to be.
LA will be 3rd in the West with any luck, Ronnie Artest will find someway to sabotage the Lakers and demand the ball in crunchtime and when he doesn't get it he'll run into the stands and attack Jack Nicholson and then go lay on the scores table. I'm going to hereby curse the Lakers with a key injury this year, and watch Kobe the brat's contract expire and get moved to NY or somewhere where all the rapists and stachetories can waive their banners and welcome their king 'Kobe' back home. LA is a joke and Phil J needs to retire. The guy barely has the mental wherewithall to go another season with Kobe at the helm doing Phils job for him.
SA will surprise everyone (though it won't BE a surprise to us Spurs fans) and will represent the West in the Finals in June. #5 for Timmy and Popovich!!!
even worse Artest is going to attack Jack NIcholson during a clipper game and fans or each team are going to start fighting each other! LA is going to spiral into chaos and with the city divided stern decides to move the lakers to Seattle and Ron is banned from the NBA forever! :rollinQuote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanurich
The only people who are in denial are Spur fans who adamantly believe that Ron Artest is going to make the Lakers a worse team than if they had Ariza.
Do you ever STFU? Stop talking. Please. Everyone was right about you; you are an idiot and never stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrHouse
Artest won't make them any worse but losing Odom will. Artest is an upgrade defensively but quit acting like he is some stud offensively. That end of the court he is the same if not worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrHouse
Pau plays center too quite often. And Josh Powell would spell them, of course whether or not Powell is a good bench player remains to be seenQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100
He would be an upgrade over the playoff Lakers where he was playing injured. Idiots. An upgrade over the playoff Lakers that won the title i might addQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
I don't forsee the best teams in the league being plagued by injuries two years in a row. There are several teams that have a great shot it at next year.
Baloney the reloaded Spurs have nothing to fear from the Spurs if they gell and stay healthy!Quote:
Originally Posted by DrHouse
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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Classic Post! Couldnt of agreed with you anymore!
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Originally Posted by Nathan Explosion
Are You Kidding me???? Gasol Has Game, but come on...... Im taking duncan over anyone in any matchup of the bigs......
sweet back handQuote:
Originally Posted by Gutter92
Kobe can't win without Shaq.
Lakers haven't done shit since '02.
Oh wait...
Still no point...Quote:
Originally Posted by DrHouse
- Who gives a shit who is the fav b4 the season starts?
- This coming season, there is no clear fav anyway. The spurs retooled, The C's are stacked. Orlando retooled. Denver is still dangerous
- Each fan base have homers in it. Lakers, Spurs, Magic ect ect
Christ. We get it. We have no chance. STFU already. :deadhorseQuote:
Originally Posted by DrHouse
Man, I miss LakerGod. At least he made me laugh.
Eh, the Lakers were probably the legit champion last year, I don't care who was healthy or not. They got long and tall after the rest of the league had gone small..and Phil Jackson developed the young Laker players into a formidable team unit.
I don't believe the Lakers would have beaten us in 2008 if Manu had been healthy. Even if they had, it would have said as much about the physical asskicking the Hornets gave us as it did about LA.
Last year they would have beaten us, we had no size, rebounding, shotblocking or atheleticism.
But a big part of what started giving the Lakers the upperhand against us was Ariza, he was a factor in us losing to LA. I am glad to see him go.
Going into next season...
Phil getting his hands on a guy like Artest is never a good thing. Phil can get the most of out of a player like Artest, he's proven it many times. Artest will be a machine living up to his potential after a year under Phil...
But Laker fan is in a serious case of denial if he thinks the Spurs didn't add some major firepower...
LakerFan also doesn't realize that age is creeping up on his team like a thief in the night.
He points out injury potential of Duncan and Manu, yet ignores that of Bynum, Artest and Gasol. I'll be real suprised if Manu is injured at playoff time 3 years in a row.
And how long can Phil keep it going? I have no doubt that if he left you guys would not win a championship, but even he has to have hunger limits...and he's met all the ultimate goals of a coach.
And make no mistake about it LakerFan, you guys are gonna learn to hate Dejuan Blair and George Hill as this season goes along.
We aren't starting Matt Bonner and Michael Finley(I hope) this year...we are going to be a long way from that. Realize it LakerFan, and then shut the fuck up.
I gotta say brah, you did call it pretty straight when you said we'd lose to Dallas while we were watching Game 1 of that series. Healthy Manu would've been nice but that team outside Tim and Tony got fucking clowned by the Mavs. Clowned.Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
Anytime Brandon Bass is better than all 3 of the guys you are playing alongside Duncan, combined, but most especially the 6'6 36 year old shooting guard you are playing at the PF down the stretch, you are in for an ass kicking. Probably even with a healthy Manu.Quote:
Originally Posted by J.T.
Also doesn't help when the head coach rests Duncan at the beginning of every 4th regardless of momentum or stakes, like it's a pre-season game or he's still got David Robinson to pick up the slack or something.
And how ya doin' JT? Long time no see :tu