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I you want a beautiful meltdown, you need to throw that news in a new thread. There's not a lot of people who read the French NT thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
Now, with a new thread with a title like "Breaking News : Parker injured with French NT !!!", you could have something... epic. :lol
I didn't want to put the news in a specific thread to avoid the traditional meltdown but I'm sure someone else will create this thread soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by timaios
Well what do you expect? Most people seem to think TP is very out of shape and now he is trying to play with his NT? That is not smart. He should have been keeping in shape knowing he was going to be playing.
No one minds him playing (or at least I do not) but be smart. He is an elite athlete and he knows that you cannot go from 0 to NT without risking injury.
that is not good... hopefully TP bounces back with no physical issues to lead the team to the Eurocup
Damn it Tony, I read that he was out of shape but when I saw only 12 mins i let out a sigh of relief. But damn it...
This is so true :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by timaios
So now Parker rests and comes back for NT play even more out of shape. Sweet.
Fuckin NT play. Start kissing all that money you sank to re-arm the Spurs goodbye Holt.
Slow your roll and look at the big pic. He is out of shape and that is not smart, but the injury was minor and it is too early to say the season is over. He just has to be smart and not rush anything. He needs to work to get back into shape before trying to compete at a high level.Quote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
Some guys are prone to injury and some guys (due in part to body type) are not.
TP seems like the latter so I wouldn't be too worried.
Screw that. I've always been against NT play including the US. Manu screwed the Spurs over with a stress injury, a cumulative injury that almost certainly wouldn't have happened with summer's rest. Now Parker continues to fuck up his ankle with cumulative, repetitive injuries, each one making the next one a little easier to occur.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
You're fast to draw some conclusions while you haven't even seen how the injury has happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Parker was hit in the tigh by an Austrian player and twist his ankle during the same play. He doesn't look like an injury related with not being in shape.
TP hurt his right ankle yesterday. He has had troubles with his left ankle.Quote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
Is he in top shape? I do not care how the injury happened. If you are not in good shape you are susceptible to injury. This is not rocket science. When you are in shape, your balance and ability to avoid injury is much better. When you are out of shape, you can get hit then roll your ankle because your legs are too weak to bounce off and your balance is poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
This is widely known. My beef is not so much with the current injury as it is with a few saying he looks in very bad shape. That can lead to injuries and he should work himself back in slowly and monitor his minor injuries.
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Looks like you were the one drawing conclusions because you feel defensive over the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
No where did I say that his fitness was the direct cause of the injury. I was responding to a few saying he looked out of shape and that is when injuries CAN happen.
I never said he was out of shape and it caused him to roll his ankle. He needs to be careful and smart and work himself slowly in. That is all. You were jumping to conclusions.
Game 2:
France 82
Belgium 44
De Colo 6 points in 23min.
Stats: http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches.../50nSFhNmrsU5A
Pictures: http://www.sigbasket.fr/edf2009/samedi-match2/
These are easy wins against bad teams. The FT shooting is very Spurs like ( 9/21 in the first game, 14/27 in the second one). :lol
Is De Colo running point for this last game with TP out? Or does he play SG only for the NT?
He played PG in this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
When everybody is healthy, he only plays SG. TP is the starting PG and Joseph Gomis is the backup PG.
I know it was not the best competition, but how does he do at running the point? Is he better than Gomis at the PG position?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
I know from some comments, he said he is transitioning back to a PG for his club.
+ 10Quote:
Originally Posted by dpg21920
[quote=Bruno;3588363]Game 2:
France 82
Belgium 44
De Colo 6 points in 23min.
... and 10 assists!
[QUOTE=Pauleta14;3588594]Just passing the ball to a teammate against an outmanned team is likely to count as an assist. The 6 points in 23 minutes seems more significant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
No, 2 assists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pauleta14
http://www.basketfrance.com/_fbs/0910/edf_4.pdf
Well I don't know why you would have expected him to be in basketball shape. Though he obviously works out regularly in the summer, he can't be in basketball shape (have his wind, legs, etc) unless he plays basketball. And after the season ends, most of the players are told to take a couple months off of basketball. And then midsummer they start working themselves back into basketball shape through scrimmages, team play, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Anyway, I don't think getting kneed in the thigh has to do with being in shape or not. Remember the 2006 in the playoffs when he got kneed in the thigh very badly? He definitely was in shape then and it didn't stop the issue.
pop told tp and duncan not to do anything this summer
I am not thrilled tp is over there
you get in basketball shape by playing only
for the ones that want him to be in basketball shape he has to play to get in shape
I don't expect him to be in game shape. I expect him to be in decent shape or to have started training a little early knowing that he would be playing for his NT. I am just going off of what people say, that he looks very out of shape.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Many players in the off season still run and play pick up basketball with other pros. I did not say that "getting kneed was due to him being out of shape". He also sprained his ankle, so it was not him just getting kneed. Once again, I said the injury did not bother me, it was the reports of him looking very out of shape that can lead to more serious injuries. That is how injuries happen. I said I want him to ease himself into it. I do not want him to go from very out of shape to trying to help the NT qualify just like that. I do not know how this particular injury happened or if him rolling his ankle after he got kneed had to do with him being un fit. Just now that the odds increase of other injuries if he is 1) out of shape 2)a little banged up 3) trying to compete at a high level.
Most people that are going to play for the NT start training a little earlier to start to get in shape. They know it is not smart to do very little, then try and play at a high level. Not only does it take a while to get back into shape, but you run the risk of getting injured in practice/games.