The 2009 French NT thread

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I don't expect him to be in game shape. I expect him to be in decent shape or to have started training a little early knowing that he would be playing for his NT. I am just going off of what people say, that he looks very out of shape.

Many players in the off season still run and play pick up basketball with other pros. I did not say that "getting kneed was due to him being out of shape". He also sprained his ankle, so it was not him just getting kneed. Once again, I said the injury did not bother me, it was the reports of him looking very out of shape that can lead to more serious injuries. That is how injuries happen. I said I want him to ease himself into it. I do not want him to go from very out of shape to trying to help the NT qualify just like that. I do not know how this particular injury happened or if him rolling his ankle after he got kneed had to do with him being un fit. Just now that the odds increase of other injuries if he is 1) out of shape 2)a little banged up 3) trying to compete at a high level.

Most people that are going to play for the NT start training a little earlier to start to get in shape. They know it is not smart to do very little, then try and play at a high level. Not only does it take a while to get back into shape, but you run the risk of getting injured in practice/games.

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The French NT team began training camp the 12th of July. And Tony played 12 min against a really bad team after 2 weeks of training.
A little spained ankle for a basketball player... it's a minor injury !
Get over it. Tony will, in 1 or maybe 2 weeks.

Parker says de Colo will be a SG with the Spurs, he plays SG for the NT but for his new Spanish team he'll be playin PG, y is that Bruno? Do the Spurs want him to improve his playmaking ability more than his scoring ability?

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I don't expect him to be in game shape. I expect him to be in decent shape or to have started training a little early knowing that he would be playing for his NT. I am just going off of what people say, that he looks very out of shape.

Many players in the off season still run and play pick up basketball with other pros. I did not say that "getting kneed was due to him being out of shape". He also sprained his ankle, so it was not him just getting kneed. Once again, I said the injury did not bother me, it was the reports of him looking very out of shape that can lead to more serious injuries. That is how injuries happen. I said I want him to ease himself into it. I do not want him to go from very out of shape to trying to help the NT qualify just like that. I do not know how this particular injury happened or if him rolling his ankle after he got kneed had to do with him being un fit. Just now that the odds increase of other injuries if he is 1) out of shape 2)a little banged up 3) trying to compete at a high level.

Most people that are going to play for the NT start training a little earlier to start to get in shape. They know it is not smart to do very little, then try and play at a high level. Not only does it take a while to get back into shape, but you run the risk of getting injured in practice/games.

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Well I doubt he's "very" out of shape. It's not like he's been laying on the couch eating gallons of ice cream and never going to the gym. People were just referring to him being winded and the such... in other words, not being in game shape.

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Originally Posted by ducks

pop told tp and duncan not to do anything this summer
I am not thrilled tp is over there
you get in basketball shape by playing only
for the ones that want him to be in basketball shape he has to play to get in shape

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I'm sorry, I tought you would be outraged by now with a Spurs player getting injured playing for his NT. I fully expected 'Now Tony will have a lot of time to update his Facebook page' or some such retarded comment from you.
You disappoint me ducks... :nope

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Slow your roll and look at the big pic. He is out of shape and that is not smart, but the injury was minor and it is too early to say the season is over. He just has to be smart and not rush anything. He needs to work to get back into shape before trying to compete at a high level.

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Originally Posted by timaios

The French NT team began training camp the 12th of July. And Tony played 12 min against a really bad team after 2 weeks of training.
A little spained ankle for a basketball player... it's a minor injury !
Get over it. Tony will, in 1 or maybe 2 weeks.

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Am I missing something?

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

Well I doubt he's "very" out of shape. It's not like he's been laying on the couch eating gallons of ice cream and never going to the gym. People were just referring to him being winded and the such... in other words, not being in game shape.

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Fair enough. Just saying that being out of shape and going too hard can leave you more susceptible to injury if you are not careful. Just want him to take it easy. I know it is hard as an competitor to hold back even though you might not be completely ready.

I get your point that he cannot be game fit without playing in games. But I was referring to being in a little better shape so he was closer to game ready. That way, it is not like he is far behind or having to jump into competitive games while trying to get into game shape at the same time. But I could be off, and maybe he is not as out of shape as some are leading on...

Third preparation game:
France 84
Czech republic 66

De Colo: 6 points in 17 min.

stats: http://www.basketfrance.com/_fbs/0910/edf_6.pdf

KBP is gay. :D

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Third preparation game:
France 84
Czech republic 66

De Colo: 6 points in 17 min.

stats: http://www.basketfrance.com/_fbs/0910/edf_6.pdf

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Not too shabby...

Getting hurt in international play? Where have I seenthis before?

:pctoss

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Originally Posted by Russ

Some guys are prone to injury and some guys (due in part to body type) are not. TP seems like the latter so I wouldn't be too worried.

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Tony gets hurt almost every summer he plays for the NT.

That pisses me off. I guess there isn't a whole lot the Spurs can do about it though. I wonder how long it will be until we start seeing something in their contracts about international play.

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Originally Posted by ploto

Tony gets hurt almost every summer he plays for the NT.

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he got hurt 2 times before (2006 and 2007). He's playing for the NT since 2001.

In 2006, he got a broken finger because his finger got stuck in someone's jersey. He's not injury prone.

fuckkkkkkkkkk

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Originally Posted by __JaG__

That pisses me off. I guess there isn't a whole lot the Spurs can do about it though. I wonder how long it will be until we start seeing something in their contracts about international play.

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The NBA already ruled that teams cannot do that. The reason is it means Team USA would have all NCAA players. Good luck with those 10th places Olympic finished if you send all NCAA players.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

TP is out for few days because he sprained his right ankle yesterday.

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Immediate reaction:

:wow:wow:wow:wow:depressed:depressed:bang:bang:ihi t:ihit:nope:nope

Now that I've got that out of my system: I'm glad it wasn't serious and he should heal quickly since he's a youngster. And if we recall, he injured his ankle early in the season and look how well he played so.........:king

Yes, for the moment no reason to panic. The injury seems small and they will be careful with him. France NT next and last preparation game is Thursday, TP likely won't play it by precautionary measure.

et merde..j'ai acheté 3 places pr le voir jouer...et il jouera pas...déjà quand je suis allé a san antonio je l'ai vu jouer que une fois sur 3!!
en même temps je préfére le voir assurer a san antonio plus qu'en EDF limite...

I never understand the exaggerated reactions that people have about off season play. These guys are basketball players-- that's what they do. If it wasn't organized basketball in Europe, it would be streetball or pick up games at a local gym or celebrity games with other players. Would people get mad if Parker was playing a pick up game at a gym in San Antonio with George Hill, Roger Mason, and Manu and sprained his ankle? It's ridiculous to expect an extremely talented professional basketball player who has been obsessed with playing basketball his whole life to just stop playing for 3 months, and besides it doesn't make sense. Why would someone at the top of his game want to let any amount of rust set in?

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Originally Posted by Tully365

I never understand the exaggerated reactions that people have about off season play. These guys are basketball players-- that's what they do. If it wasn't organized basketball in Europe, it would be streetball or pick up games at a local gym or celebrity games with other players. Would people get mad if Parker was playing a pick up game at a gym in San Antonio with George Hill, Roger Mason, and Manu and sprained his ankle? It's ridiculous to expect an extremely talented professional basketball player who has been obsessed with playing basketball his whole life to just stop playing for 3 months, and besides it doesn't make sense. Why would someone at the top of his game want to let any amount of rust set in?

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Originally Posted by leonarth

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yep...so nice. someone who makes sense :toast

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Originally Posted by Tully365

I never understand the exaggerated reactions that people have about off season play. These guys are basketball players-- that's what they do. If it wasn't organized basketball in Europe, it would be streetball or pick up games at a local gym or celebrity games with other players. Would people get mad if Parker was playing a pick up game at a gym in San Antonio with George Hill, Roger Mason, and Manu and sprained his ankle? It's ridiculous to expect an extremely talented professional basketball player who has been obsessed with playing basketball his whole life to just stop playing for 3 months, and besides it doesn't make sense. Why would someone at the top of his game want to let any amount of rust set in?

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Playing pick up basketball and working yourself back into shape is different than playing high level world competition with your country's pride on the line. I love international basketball and there are always some inherent risks when playing sports.

But players should be smart about things and try and limit the injuries as much as possible. Just take care of yourself, work yourself back into shape, don't try and do too much and monitor any minor bumps and bruises so they do not become worse.

Parker trained with his NT for two weeks before the injury and he sprained his ankle against f-ing AUSTRIA !

Of course he was wearing a France jersey, but you cannot really say it was "high level world competition with your countries pride on the line". TP was simply working himself back into shape and happened to (mildly) sprain his ankle like he does so often because he's a little bit fragile at those areas.

He even said in an interview that he put his feet and ankles in buckets of ice after trainings and game - he's been paying attention, but that was not enough. So what? He'll be fine in a week.

^ Do you realize that Parker's "back in shape" program, has been established by Spurs. He was followed one week by Pop and another by Mike Brungardt.

You can continue to say that TO hasn't been "smart" while he has done what Spurs' staff wanted him to do.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

^ Do you realize that Parker's "back in shape" program, has been established by Spurs. He was followed one week by Pop and another by Mike Brungardt.

You can continue to say that TO hasn't been "smart" while he has done what Spurs' staff wanted him to do.

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I said I want him to be smart. I did not say he was an idiot. I said that trying to play at a high level when not in shape is not smart. I said I want him to take it easy and not try and do too much too fast because his competitive juices are flowing.

I am happy that he is being very careful with this minor injury and not pushing to play a ton of minutes, even though he probably could.

And I do not "keep saying it"...I have already said I may have overstated/misinterpreted the reports of him being out of shape. My main concern is that if he is very out of shape, that he do not try and rush it back and if he gets injured (like he has) that he take the proper precautions. He seems to be doing that, so I am fine.