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SpurCharger
I am The Biggest Bruce Bowen Fan And I love EVerything about him...... But The time Has come, that he has gotten Old and His defense went from a A+ Defender to a B- Defender..... He Can still defend but nowhere near like he could...... I wish Him the best!
Even if that's true, which it's not, a B - defender is still pretty good. You can't get A + players at every position, that's the entire reason for the salary cap, for more parity in the league. Otherwise, a small market team like SA would never have reached the heights that it has so far.
Also, one thing we should consider is what Bruce wants. Does he want to go to a new team at 38 years old, where he has to learn a new system, move his family (or at least himself), try to gel with a whole new set of teammates AND a new head coach? We'll see, but I highly doubt it
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I'm still not sure Bowen will play anywhere if it's not in San Antonio. He might just retire and spend more time with his little boys.
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Interrohater
Even if that's true, which it's not, a B - defender is still pretty good. You can't get A + players at every position, that's the entire reason for the salary cap, for more parity in the league. Otherwise, a small market team like SA would never have reached the heights that it has so far.
Also, one thing we should consider is what Bruce wants. Does he want to go to a new team at 38 years old, where he has to learn a new system, move his family (or at least himself), try to gel with a whole new set of teammates AND a new head coach? We'll see, but I highly doubt it
I agree With You, About the Cap, And Parity in the League..... But At 38 years old, he decreased so much from year to the next...... He Is A Liability to a certain extent now..... His 3 pt % Was way down last year, and his defense got worse...... those are the 2 things that Bruce Could always hang his hat on.... Now that he Has declined in those 2 areas, I Think its time to Move on...... Im not a Huge Finley Fan, but Finely Had A good shooting year last year..... Plus Richard jefferson Is A B- defender..... So Im cool with him and Manu swapping Duties on the best defenders....
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Bowen shot over 40% from 3 IIRC. That is very good, especially when you think about how difficult it is to shoot when your playing time is inconsistent.
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Phila_Chamberlain
I've heard what I said "they are keeping their [trade] options open." but it is likely they make a multi player trade giving up more than they get player wise. Giving the team more flexability. Nothing is "in the works" but it is a possibility.
Got ya, thanks. That is what I thought.
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Duncan the G.O.A.T.
so we can get older and watch him get torched again this year?
FYI: if Bruce were to return, he'd still be the best perimeter defender on the team. While he wasn't up to past Bowen standards, he wasn't "getting torched", either.
Rumor: Bowen May End Up In Boston
Didn't see it posted. Damn it.
A source (preferring to remain unnamed) has indicated a serious flirtation between Bruce Bowen and the Boston Celtics. This may have something to do with the Marquis Daniels delay but it wouldn't be an either/or thing. Boston would like to get both of them.
The Bucks are trying to trade Bowen before his $4 million contract becomes fully guaranteed (only $2 million is locked in). Ultimately it may be in Boston's best interest to lure Bowen after he becomes a free agent although the Celtics run a slight risk that he's traded to another team before August 1st (and kept at his full salary).
http://www.celticsblog.com/2009/7/26...d-up-in-boston
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Bruno
http://www.celticsblog.com/2009/7/26...d-up-in-boston
Ultimately it may be in Boston's best interest to lure Bowen after he becomes a free agent
although the Celtics run a slight risk that he's traded to another team before August 1st (and kept at his full salary).
I wonder which team would keep him at his full salary? It would certainly have to be one of the other playoff contenders. Orlando?
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We are keeping our options open on 3 for 1/4 for 1 trades, but at the moment Bruce is unlikely to be signed by the Spurs if released.
Which teams have the room to take on 2 or 3 players? I figure Williams would be involved and waived if such a trade happens before his contract becomes fully guaranteed.
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Nice words about Bowen from NESN.com.
Bowen Would Be a Boon to Celtics -- At the Right Price
by Evans Clinchy
According to rumors currently circulating around the blogosphere, the Celtics have shown interest in acquiring Bruce Bowen, an eight-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection and a three-time NBA champ.
Nice resume, right? Where do we sign?
Reeling in Bowen, who has a reputation as a superb defensive swingman, would certainly have its merits. Bowen gave the Celtics two seasons back in the early years of his career, shortly after sneaking into the NBA as an undrafted free agent, but he skipped town in 1999. In the decade since, he's won three rings as a San Antonio Spur. Bringing him back now would be a big boost to the Celtics' bench.
Ever since losing James Posey after their championship season in 2008, the Celtics have been lusting after a great swingman to come off the bench, play defense and hit open jumpers. Bowen could be that guy.
Bowen spent eight years in San Antonio, but that era came to an end last month -- the Spurs shipped him to Milwaukee as part of the three-team trade that brought in Richard Jefferson.
The problem is that Bowen is a terrible fit in Milwaukee. He turned 38 this summer, his knees are getting weaker and he's not the defensive force he once was. He's a bench role player. The Bucks, whose best hope for a winning future might be to rebuild around Brandon Jennings and Joe Alexander, have no use for a 38-year-old with an expiring contract. Bowen is a trading chip to the Bucks, nothing more.
The Bucks are going to explore their options for dealing Bowen away, but the clock is ticking. Under his current deal, management is obligated either to pay him $2 million and waive him by August 1 (that would be Saturday) or extend him for a full season at $4 million.
Neither one is a desirable option. So the Bucks have to make a move.
But paying Bowen $4 million isn't a good option for the Celtics either. Everyone is risk-averse in this modern NBA climate, and throwing that much cash at an old man just doesn't make sense. That's especially true in Boston, where the Celtics are way over the cap -- one $4 million deal now means another $4 million to the luxury tax later.
No thank you.
Bowen would be a great player in Boston. He'd be a perfect fit, even at his age, because he's a physical one-on-one defender who could stop opposing small forwards -- and in the Eastern Conference, there are plenty of good ones. Think LeBron James and Vince Carter. In a pinch, Bowen could even take on a slashing two-guard like Dwyane Wade or Joe Johnson.
There's no doubt that Bowen has value to the Celtics. But the front office needs to be able to put a dollar sign in front of that value, and $8 million (with the luxury tax included) is a bit much.
So what do the C's do? In all likelihood, they take their chances. If no one else in the NBA bites at trading for Bowen and his $4 million deal, then he'll be cut loose this weekend, and the Celtics can renegotiate with him then. A low-level exception contract (worth a little under $2 million) would look a lot better to the Celtics than Bowen's current deal.
The risk is that Bowen hits free agency and decides to go elsewhere. The obvious choice would be the Spurs -- he was happy there, he won three titles there and he might return there for less money. But if Celtics GM Danny Ainge can lure Bowen away with the chance to play with a different group of championship-winning veterans, then that could make fiscal sense. He should give it a shot.
Of course, they could easily lose their chance at Bowen if the free agency route doesn't work out. That's a gamble. But the bigger gamble would be dropping $8 million on a bench player.
Bruce Bowen would be a good player in Boston. At the right price, the Celtics would love to have him. But if it doesn't work out, they'll move on. Bowen knows how to defend small forwards; Ainge knows how to defend small budgets.
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Knoxxx
There is nothing sad about the situation of someone that has made millions playing the game of basketball, just because they might have to work somewhere not of their choosing. Many of us do that every day, at far less desirable jobs for a fraction of the pay.
Exactly,
Sometimes I'll here someone talking about how sad an athelete must feel about losing, or getting traded, or such. Please - these guys make so much more than us, are playing for a living, travel around the world as they please, and have supermodels in each arm. We should be feeling sorry for ourselves, working our asses off, living paycheck to paycheck and trying to rush home so we can see them play on TV.
I wish I had those problems.
GO SPURS GO!:lobt:
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The C's aren't Mavs, they won't overpay for bench player.
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hmm bowen was quite good on pierce last year, i hope this doesnt happen ...
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Seeing Bowen in that green jersey would make me sick to my stomach.
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Ray Allen went to the East because Bowen was in the West
Probably Ray Allen want him more than other Celtic
Finally he can stop to Cry
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__JaG__
Seeing Bowen in that green jersey would make me sick to my stomach.
I agree. Bowen with KG+Ray = :depressed
But to be honest, I hope he plays again and proves he can still play. He can be a great piece to a contending team that thinks he has something left.
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Bowen can still play all-world defense in stretches. It would be sickening to see him do it against Tony or Manu.
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I would hate to see this happen, but he has to think about his family.
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Bruce isn't going to play alongside that crybaby Allen. I'd be ridiculously shocked if that happened.