Dr. J: I'd Take Duncan

The game has changed so much because of the 'play nice with other rules'. I don't know if Tony could have played back in the day when some real nasty dudes patrolled the paint and absolutely would take a guy's head off. Enforcers like Maurice Lucas and Rich Jones weren't worried about suspensions or fines because they didn't really exist for just 'rough play'.

Correct Dr. J was a swingman. Surely if they asked him if he'd like to have played with Jordan he would have said nooooo way, because that would have eaten up his minutes and he would have had to come off the bench.
BTW...
If I was into raping chicks in a hotel, I'd like to play with Kobe! It's called :downspin:team work!:downspin:

For those trying to argue that Kobe is a better player than Duncan, all you have to do is check the most meaningful stat of all.

Duncan has a higher winning percentage than Kobe, both regular season and post season.

Kobe didn't even break the Top 15. Simmons had the Elias Sports Bureau do the work to find that out and that's what happened.

Duncan has more Finals MVPs and Regular season MVPs than Kobe. And he wins at a better clip than Kobe.

And seeing as how the name of the game is to win, how can anyone argue that Kobe is better than Duncan win Kobe doesn't win as much as Duncan?

Who quietly got to 4 fastest?? Hmmmm

lakaluva

Next time you have a thought.....

Let it go.

Every Laker after S.A. beats them 3-0 this season --->:dizzy

Leaving aside the Spurs/Lakers pissing match, a nice article and a nice compliment to Duncan from a great of the game.

And it reminds me of one of my favorite Spur-related commercials of all time - the 2004 (?) Trophy Love commercial featuring Timmy D and Dr. J. Loved that commercial and can still recite it from memory, I think.

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Originally Posted by lakaluva

He would come off the bench playing with Kobe or James... its only obvious why he would settle for Duncan.

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:lmao at sensitive lakerfan

hilarious :rollin

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Originally Posted by easjer

And it reminds me of one of my favorite Spur-related commercials of all time - the 2004 (?) Trophy Love commercial featuring Timmy D and Dr. J. Loved that commercial and can still recite it from memory, I think.

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"La-la-la-la...I'm not listening." :lol

It was a great commercial. For some reason it's disappeared from youtube. I haven't been able to find it in a while.

Anyone have it?

I always loved Dr. J. Quietly intelligent, intense player who like Duncan made the right play at pivotal moments in a game. It makes sense that the good Doctor appreciates Duncan's game. That's a really awesome compliment for Tim.

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

In all honesty, it is much better to have a dominate big man than a dominate guard. If I had a choice between building around a 22 year old Duncan or a 22 year old Bryant it would be Duncan all the way. With the exception of the Jordan teams, the team that dominates the paint wins. Why? Because the paint is where the easy baskets are scored. If you score more easy baskets than the other team then you have a good chance of winning.

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It's funny how this is the first line of thinking in the mind of most knowledgeable NBA fans, yet is it foolishness to any fan who dons a purple and gold jersey.

One look at their careers tells the tale. 53 wins or more in any season of a career vs three seasons in a row of mediocrity, including one where the Lakers missed the playoffs and another where they only managed to get 2 games over .500.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Well when you're playing with Kobe, there's a chance that he'll make a video about you, asking for you to be traded, and throwing you under the bus..why would anybody want to go through that?..

There's also the chance that he tries to take over an entire series to get out of your shadow..in the NBA Finals of all places..

Oh, and don't forget the possibility of him snitching on you if he knows anything personal about you..

There's also the chance that he'll quit on your team in a game 7, because he feels like you aren't worthy of being his teammate..

what a great teammate and all-around human being..

shit, Duncan never complained when the Lakers used to swarm him, but nobody on the perimeter could ever make a shot until he got help a few years later in 2003, leading to countless meltdowns in the 4th quarter..he's never complained about not having a legit big man to help him out since Admiral left..he didn't complain last year when we were eliminated in the 1st round, clearly needing more talent..

when he didn't have any all-star caliber players in 2003, but had some improving players that were coming up..what did he do?..he carried us to a title..

the FO repaid him by getting him players out of respect, as Holt and RC have said..

what does Kobe do when he's upset?..he threatens to sign with the Clippers if Shaq isn't gone..he cries to the media for weeks about wanting to leave, makes videos about Bynum, throws the entire organization under the bus like a baby..asks to go to Chicago, but refuses to let the Lakers get anything back in return..

finally Jerry West helps him out by giving him an All-Star for nothing, and now he's happy again..we'll see for how long..

what a piece of shit..

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Well said. Totally true. The greats of the game know basketball and have played with great players and done great things. So they can see straight through a guy like Bryant.

The truth is that if he weren't on Shaq's team, he would only have one ring. And as Halrem Heat pointed out, if West hadn't sent Gasol to the Lakers in the most obviously tainted trade in NBA history, Bryant wouldn't have been to the last two finals.

Tim Duncan wasn't carried to any titles. Bryant was carried to three. The fact that people say that Bryant's four titles even compare to Tim's four is a joke, if not completely insulting. Frankly, the only people who are stupid enough to make that comparison are Laker fans. Have they forgotten that Shaquille averaged over 30 points and 14 boards over the course of those three Finals in 2000-2002 ? He was the most dominant player in the league at that time, and he carried Bryant and everybody else on that team. That's absolutely indisputable.

Derek Fisher has won four titles as well. Get my point?

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Originally Posted by lakaluva

So, you'd take Duncan over Magic?

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Without hesitation. Magic was great...but he also had Kareem making his life easier.

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

In all honesty, it is much better to have a dominate big man than a dominate guard. If I had a choice between building around a 22 year old Duncan or a 22 year old Bryant it would be Duncan all the way. With the exception of the Jordan teams, the team that dominates the paint wins. Why? Because the paint is where the easy baskets are scored. If you score more easy baskets than the other team then you have a good chance of winning.

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You said it right there, that's also why what Jordan and the Bulls did was so special, they did it without a dominant center, or even a decent center.

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Originally Posted by lakaluva

Exactly!!! Dr. J played the two guard, and the small forward position. He mainly played the 3 spot. If he played with James, he would only get spot minutes cause James plays huge minutes, and if he played with Kobe, he would get whatever Kobe left over. Both Kobe and James are far superior in talent than Dr. J. Dr. J even took back seat to Andrew Toney when he arrived, and it would be no different with James and Kobe.

It would only make sense that he would want to play with a big man, and he even stated that in the article, but stupid Spur fan twisted it as a diss to Kobe and James. I just put it in prospective, that's all.

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So if he play with either one of them, why would he come off the bench when he can just switch to the other position?

The man should know. He's a doctor.

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Originally Posted by lakaluva

Kobe led his team to team of the decade.

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:lol, 3 of his championships came from being Shaq's sidekick.

Dr. J always struck me as being an intelligent, sophisticated and classy guy. Of course his choice would be Tim.

Lakaluva obviously never witnessed Dr. J, Rick Barry, the Pearl, Tiny A in action. He is an under 40 fool who thinks that he knows is all and that all his heroes must be superior. Dr. J was a beast. Today Barry would be the best #2 guard in the league. The Pearl was a combine CP and Kidd. Tiny A was better than AI. Generational comparisons never work. You can only compare players to their contemporaries. Kobe, finally, has one ring without the best center this generation. Duncan has won 3 without a player considered the BEST of his generation. Pau and Kobe need 2 more to even be considered with Duncan.

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Originally Posted by lakaluva

Exactly!!! Dr. J played the two guard, and the small forward position. He mainly played the 3 spot. If he played with James, he would only get spot minutes cause James plays huge minutes, and if he played with Kobe, he would get whatever Kobe left over. Both Kobe and James are far superior in talent than Dr. J. Dr. J even took back seat to Andrew Toney when he arrived, and it would be no different with James and Kobe.

It would only make sense that he would want to play with a big man, and he even stated that in the article, but stupid Spur fan twisted it as a diss to Kobe and James. I just put it in prospective, that's all.

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You obviously know nothing about Dr. J. Dr. J in his prime was superior to LeBron and Kobe. He was as good at his peak as anyone who ever picked up a basketball.

Go research the 1976 ABA playoffs. Perhaps the best postseason performance ever.