He is absolutely correct that the American econony, in the long run, is dependent on reducing HC expenses. I now pay 20% of my income on HC. We need a system where EVERYONE spends the same % of their incomes for the same HC.
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He is absolutely correct that the American econony, in the long run, is dependent on reducing HC expenses. I now pay 20% of my income on HC. We need a system where EVERYONE spends the same % of their incomes for the same HC.
Exactly. The government should require that every individual pay what they are able to, and be given everything which they need. What a sweet arrangement that would be.
Let's not stop with health care either.
Marxism here we come:toastQuote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
At least we can feel safe knowing social security will save us, in the long run.
Glad we increased the deficit by trillions ensuring we will come out stronger, in the long run.
I am a proud American knowing my government always has, the long run, in mind when making policy.
This is definitely an interesting, bullshit-filled address.
:vomit: I'm forcing myself to watch this because he is our president. This guy fucking SUCKS!
Obama's talking about the Matrix, I think.
:sleepSame old shit... Just rack up the debt, why the hell not...
He's concerned about the debt. He said so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spursmania
Pretty damn pathetic on just about every account. This country is fucked.
All talk no plan. Didn't even talk about how he will pay for this plan.
Someone please tell me what his plan is?
Obama seems so disingenuous whenever he tries to assure us, "this is America, it's good to make a profit."
Maybe it's because he also says things like, "we need to take away the profit motive" and "we need to constrain compensation."
Frankly, we should be appalled at our government's dithering on this very important issue. Obama won a majority of the support of the people! He shouldn't have to deal with the Congress for something this urgent. It's time we move beyond politics and implement the agenda which obviously a majority of the people voted for him to make law. We need a much more efficient government than this farce!
Pfff...
Cenk explains the secret Republican Strategy on Health care
Fear not. Obama is just a man, he can neither save us nor destroy us.
This thread wouldn't be complete without:
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I thought that the biggest threat to our economy was that China has us by the balls, thanks to the huge amounts of money that the US government owes them... Silly me. Its obviously HC, where the money at least stays in the country for the most part.Quote:
Originally Posted by lotr1trekkie
Thank you! I had no idea WTF he said, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spursmania
I'm not concern of the economic threat the Chinese pose. If they demand payment on the notes, I believe it would do us more good than bad. It would drop the value or our dollar dramatically to the rest of the world. Their goods to us would be more expensive, along with other imports. Our good would be more appealing to others, and the trade balance might be restored.Quote:
Originally Posted by sam1617
I believe China has a vested interest in not hurting our currency!
I have an honest fear however of the socialistic liberals destroying our nation from within. Yes, health care needs fixed. You do it be removing the financial burdens. Not placing in more.
Yeah, the problem is what happens if we default on those loans? Or if they use them as a weapon, and force us into choices we don't really want to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Having loans in the hands of a potential enemy is BAD.
Seriously. Worse case, what can happen if they want to cash in the bonds they hold? Think about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sam1617
We default, and have to transfer assets commiserate to the amounts that we default on. The UN would support China, because, face it, its the appropriate thing. Either that, or our taxes will skyrocket to pay for the loans...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Also, we have no control over what China can do, we can control what our government can do, at least theoretically.
ok. a couple of things. his "why rich people come to america for healthcare" logic is pretty weak(dumb). "they come here to splurge"?...........Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
really?
let's see.....wine from america or wine from france? hmmm yeah that's a tough one. american cheese or cheese from france? clothing from an american designer or clothing from a french designer? hmmmmm tough one. and i would think the average somali wouldn't have the grip to come to america for healthcare. and this idiot is blaming us for that country's ills. if someone was trying to convince me that "splurge"ing is the only reason that many foreign leaders and rich people come here to get treated is doing a horrible job at trying to change my view.
now on to his theory on why republicans want a mandate that everyone gets insured through private companies instead of the public option...............i really don't know the in's and out's of this guy's statement, but before we go to that; i'd like to know what this guy thinks of the tax and tax(cap and trade) bill. the whole involvement of the government, GE, Enron Wind, Carbon Credits, jeffrey immelt and all that. also come to think of it GE is involved in healthcare too. does this guy know that? seems like this guy looks for the R and D then attacks or doesn't attack.