Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
mosdef17
If we are looking for 3's and some "Kobe Stopping" it could be possible to acquire Shane Battier from the Rockets if they are looking to rebuild. They are waiting to see with Yao, they let Artest walk, they're looking to trade McGrady. What good is Battier for them? Besides, they basically signed a guy who is capable of filling that role, probably not to the standard of Battier though, in Travor Ariza. Not sure I would want to give up Ian in a trade though and the Rocket's probably wouldn't accept Bonner and Finley in return.
Maybe if we can get a 3rd team involved, something like this maybe?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=mvqqhb
There is absolutely no friggin' way Portland does that deal.
Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ohmwrecker
There is absolutely no friggin' way Portland does that deal.
Yeah, it was a silly example. I don't think it was THAT far fetched but most unlikely. It all depends on how highly they rate Bayless? They don't seem to rate him too highly as he barely even plays and is reportedly on the trade block. I couldn't really think of a better example in the 90 seconds I thought about it.
The whole point of that last post was basically to say that Battier would be a nice addition if we can somehow pull it off.
Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
mosdef17
If we are looking for 3's and some "Kobe Stopping" it could be possible to acquire Shane Battier from the Rockets if they are looking to rebuild. They are waiting to see with Yao, they let Artest walk, they're looking to trade McGrady. What good is Battier for them?
Battier is just the type of player, which is always good to have around. if not for his on court stuff, he is perfect to have on vet tems for holding them together and for rebuildin teams to mentor the youngsters. and in the end...even if ou have a freakin' weak team...you like to avoid the Kobes, Lebrons and Carters havin those 50 point nights ainst you.
I'd realy love to get him, as he is one of my favs. I'd even give them Mason+Ian...hell, hate me for it but I'd probably give them Mason+Blair. But thats not going to happen.
With Yao around, there is a place for Battier as well, and I don't see them trading Yao even while rebulding. There are a couple of players, which they might think about it (e.g. Durant, Roy), but I dont see one of these trades working. So why trade your best locker room presense and best defender for the backup of your francise player?
actually I like the chances Houston has. next season will be crappy, but aftr that they should have a nice lineup with Yao and Scola/Hayes inside, a defensive wing couplin Battier+Ariza and Books who should be the second option on offense (after a full year of work, he very well could be an all star PG). add trade possibilities involving T-Mac and a lottery pick and they could be in the running (by that time LA, DAL and SA should have lost a step, while POR should be there too).
So I dont think they will be desperate. Ian dosn't fit that well (not better than Shane does).
Quote:
Originally Posted by
loveforthegame
The main pieces are already in place. Makes me think they're looking at adding a young prospect wing.
why add a young wing prospect, while we have Hairston and to a smaller degree Williams?
after all we might be done for now. If Ian plays great, we might get someone pretty good at trade deadline or keep him. and if he plays poorly, he will go to Austin or whereever else! (and the odds for the later to happen are not that bad with few minutes available to proof himself!
Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
Ian can't go to Austin anymore, he's been with the Spurs for more than 2 years now.
I think he'll get plenty of time early in the season so Pop can see what he has. Depending on his performance, he might be our backup center. The Spurs would be crazy to trade him now when his value is low and they have yet to see what he can bring to the table.
Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Thompson
Ian can't go to Austin anymore, he's been with the Spurs for more than 2 years now.
I think he'll get plenty of time early in the season so Pop can see what he has. Depending on his performance, he might be our backup center. The Spurs would be crazy to trade him now when his value is low and they have yet to see what he can bring to the table.
thats the problem...His value might not be that low right now...There should be some teams, which see him as a nice prospect after his summer league play. He might show that he is worth even more but the chances are, that he will not see those minutes (Duncan, Dyess, Blair, Bonner, Haislip, Ratliff is a lot and Pop loves Bonner, shile Duncan and Dyess will be needed and Blair/Haislip are in the same position as Ian) or just bust. He might even get injured and thats it.
Is his chance better now, as a prospect or later after time in a loaded frontcourt?
We dont know and I'm fine waiting it out until feb. I just feel, that we should a least listen to other teams and not treat him like he was the #1 draft pick!
Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
Finley and Bonner can go but Roger and Ian need to stay. Trade Finley and Bonner for Shane Battier in Houston. That would be fantastic. Houston can use someone like Bonner to add depth to their Frontcourt now that Yao is gone.
If we do end up keeping Bonner though, that is fine, but he better not fucking start and he better not fuck up the development of Blair. Let him have his role on the Bench and that's it. We don't need a Starting Center that can only grab 4 Rebounds a Game. That's pathetic.
Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
JustinJDW
Finley and Bonner can go but Roger and Ian need to stay. Trade Finley and Bonner for Shane Battier in Houston. That would be fantastic. Houston can use someone like Bonner to add depth to their Frontcourt now that Yao is gone.
If we do end up keeping Bonner though, that is fine, but he better not fucking start and he better not fuck up the development of Blair. Let him have his role on the Bench and that's it. We don't need a Starting Center that can only grab 4 Rebounds a Game. That's pathetic.
LOL...it will be kind of:
RC phoning Daryl Morey (Houstin GM)
RC: "Whats, up Daryl? Heard one of your players is having surgery"
Daryl: "Duh!?"
RC: "Wanted to call you for a trade proposal!"
Daryl: "Lets hear what you have got!"
RC: "Its about that defense wing."
Daryl: "He is gone to LA."
RC: "Was that the guy which met the president or the boy, that has to stay away 400 feet within the white house?
Daryl: "You mean "within every kindergarden"...?...We still have two, but I guess you mean Shane!"
RC: "Thats his name!"
Daryl: "You know! He is our best player right now!"
RC: "Duh!?"
Daryl: silence
RC: "Can we include your next first round drafrt pick?" :rolleyes
Daryl: silence
RC: "Had to ask...Sorry!" :(
Daryl: "So what do you have for him?"
RC: "Ma..."
Daryl: "WHAT???":bang
RC: "Mi..."
Daryl: "WHAT???":bang
RC: "Des..."
Daryl: "WHAT???":bang
RC: silence
Daryl: silence
RC: silence
Daryl: silence
RC: silence
Daryl: silence
RC: "if we throw in a seondrounder?"
Daryl: silence
RC: "Hello?"
Daryl: silence
RC: "Are you still there?"
Daryl: "Yes! Sorry. Just had ro read this Mail from Mike Kupchak. He wants to give my Adam Morrison for Yao. We can't match the salaries. Any other proposes for Shane?
RC: "Ton..."
Daryl: "Hell yeah! We have a deal!!!":downspin:
RC: "silence"
Daryl: "You got me!"
RC: "Can you say: I got punked! ?"
Daryl: "You are waisting my time!"
RC: "Ok, I have to call Otis about the availability of Dwight! JustinJDW called me and said, it makes sense, coz when we trade them Matt, he can fill the hole they have up front!....a...af...aft...after they traded us Dwight"
"tooooot tooooot tooooot"
RC: "Darly?"
"tooooot tooooot tooooot"
RC: "So do we have a deal?"
Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
The reason I thought Ian was getting big minutes cause he still is a question mark and also needed the reps. One of Blair's miss games was because he was playing w/o a contract.
Trading Ian does not seem like a smart idea for the moment. While I like Theo, he is nothing more then a 10-12 minute center. SA goes back to being a old, unathletic and undersized frontcourt.
Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
Houston loves Battier and where would we put him? Behind Jefferson? That's a hell of a player to be on the bench. I dont think that is a reasonable suggestion.
Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
Other threads on this board have convinced me that Battier's defense is overrated. Despite what I thought previously based on watching the games, the evidence was substantial that Battier is NOT effective at defending Kobe.
Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
barbacoataco
Other threads on this board have convinced me that Battier's defense is overrated. Despite what I thought previously based on watching the games, the evidence was substantial that Battier is NOT effective at defending Kobe.
Shane's idea of stopping Kobe is literally putting a hand in front of his face while he is shooting. Having watched Bowen go to work on Kobe for all of these years, it's easy to see how overrated Battier's defense is.
Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
RJ for battier and scola, salary matches man...do it
Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TDMVPDPOY
RJ for battier and scola, salary matches man...do it
I've been saying that bringing in an 8th big man was the key to a title.
Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
I would trade for battier, but i wouldn't trade RJ even though I'm not a big fan of his. And Battier did do a good job on kobe bryant. Evidence of that was the fact that after every made shot kobe would say "he can't hold me". Kobe bryant torched all the guys guarding him throughout the playoffs, Krilenko / Battier/ D.Jones / Pietrus. Out of all those defenders Battier was the only guy he consistently talked trash to and battier never said a word back. Battier played the best defense out of all the guys listed above. Kobe knew it, that's why he being more of an arrogant d-bag than normal, cause Shane was playing disciplined defense without fouling and was not getting bullied in to a trash-talking game like most do ( Kobe got whistled for Technical foul after jawing and taunting shane battier after each made shot Game 2 or 5 i believe, its on youtube).
Re: The Spurs Aren't Done Making Moves This Summer - What Comes Next?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
wildbill2u
Houston loves Battier and where would we put him? Behind Jefferson? That's a hell of a player to be on the bench. I dont think that is a reasonable suggestion.
I don't see us getting him, but Jefferson and Battier would start a the wings (maybe Manu and Battier if Jefferson would agree to come in as 6th man).
