realgm podcast: idea for Iverson to spurs for vet min?

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Originally Posted by Dex

Iverson is a volume shooter who needs a lot of minutes to be effective, and even then he's not particularly efficient. These are shots that are better taken by Tim, Tony, Manu, and RJ. Shots are going to be at a premium for role players as it is; the last thing we need is a chucker.

He also seems to have problems taking a lesser role, as demonstrated by his refusal to play off the bench. There is no way he is going to be a major contributor here, so it would be a bad situation right from the start.

Oh, and his idea of defense is ballhawking for steals.

Iverson simply doesn't fit the Spurs culture. It would be like Detroit all over again for him.

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Originally Posted by K-State Spur

on paper - yes. on the court, he would REALLY ease the burden on his teammates because he's a volume shooter who takes shots away from others. when he had a deadly mid-range game and got himself to the FT line, this was acceptable. but age + discontent last year pushed him towards pure chucker status.

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In 2007-08 he was awarded the 2nd most trips to the line in his career, for a season.

Pop says that he looks for players who have gotten over themselves. Iverson most definitely does NOT fit in that category.

One would think Iverson would be more 'insulted' by a team offering him something less than MLE than by asking him to come of the bench.

And I guess he doesn't know Manu if he don't know no Olympian to come off the bench.

If Iverson would agree to all the aforementioned "IF's" then I would be completely down with signing him. For such a low price you could always waive him anyways. Still, you don't just discard that kind of talent for that price without at least looking it over first.

Fuck Iverson... first thing that came to my mind really...

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Originally Posted by Kamnik

Fuck Iverson... first thing that came to my mind really...

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Thats generally my gut reaction too. But I don't spit on talent that might help us.

he's washed up. He's never been a team player. He requires lots of minutes. He is a defensive liability. He is old and injury prone. He is not a good teamate. He skips practice. He is a ballhog. Should I keep going?

I love AI.. but no.. he's just not a team player. Individually, magical, but he definitely has a track record for killing teams.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

In 2007-08 he was awarded the 2nd most trips to the line in his career, for a season.

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and last year he was awarded the lowest of his career (both overall & per minute). with his mileage, his quickness (which gets him to the line) is only going to go in one direction. as that goes, he'll settle for more jumpers - where he's always been mediocre from 12+ feet.

if he was comfortable playing 25 minutes a night and letting the game come to him, yeah you'd have to give it a little bit of thought. but he's never given any indication to believe that he's alright being that guy. in fact, his on court actions and off-court statements point firmly to the contrary.

if he'd rather play on a bad team, but continue being a guy counted on for shots and points - no problem. i don't begrudge anybody for choosing that over a shot at a championship. horry always said that he would give up all 7 rings for one year of being "THE GUY." but if you then try to hammer that round peg into the square hole that is being a role player - you have nobody to blame but yourself when splinters ensue.

This thread actually seems somewhat decent after those ridiculous jackson threads. :lol

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Iverson is the black player white fans love to hate on the most.

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Unfortunately, you're right about that, too. He's outgrown most of the things I didn't like about him when he came into the league. He's been man enough to admit to some mistakes, and even express regrets. There are a few things I am happy to put behind me, from when I was that age. He ought to get the same opportunity. And if you think he hasn't changed, check out this video: http://www.dailypress.com/videobeta/...6c41&src=front

He still has a chip on his shoulder, and that doesn't work in his favor. But that's not exactly the worst trait of any player in the NBA. It just amazes me that people will talk about Iverson as the Anti-Spur, but still think J.R. Smith would fit in here.

I'll say this much for Iverson: pound-for-pound, he's the toughest sonofabitch in the league. I've watched him get floored by cheap shots, and get up without even changing the expression on his face. I've seen him roll his ankle to the floor so badly that I thought it might be season ending - but he went to the bench for about a minute, laced up his shoes really tightly, and went back into the game.

I'd rather have Starbury than Iverson...and I can't stand the thought of Starbury ever wearing a Spurs uniform.

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Originally Posted by GSH

Unfortunately, you're right about that, too. He's outgrown most of the things I didn't like about him when he came into the league. He's been man enough to admit to some mistakes, and even express regrets. There are a few things I am happy to put behind me, from when I was that age. He ought to get the same opportunity. And if you think he hasn't changed, check out this video: http://www.dailypress.com/videobeta/...6c41&src=front

He still has a chip on his shoulder, and that doesn't work in his favor. But that's not exactly the worst trait of any player in the NBA. It just amazes me that people will talk about Iverson as the Anti-Spur, but still think J.R. Smith would fit in here.

I'll say this much for Iverson: pound-for-pound, he's the toughest sonofabitch in the league. I've watched him get floored by cheap shots, and get up without even changing the expression on his face. I've seen him roll his ankle to the floor so badly that I thought it might be season ending - but he went to the bench for about a minute, laced up his shoes really tightly, and went back into the game.

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Great video :tu

All you need to know about Iverson is that that the guys whose multi million dollar salaries depend on putting together teams that win basketball games won't go anywhere near a guy who just 2 years ago averaged 26ppg. And those guys know a hell of a lot more about basketball than we do. I used to be an Iverson defender, but even the staunchest Iverson fan can't turn a blind eye to the lack of interest he's getting.

Iverson for LLE, yes, will it happen, probably not, but if he wants to win a ring and play with Duncan, Parker, Ginobili and Pop, why not. If he gets out of hand or does not work out, waive him.

Clearly signing for the LLE is up to AI, if he finds it insulting that is fine, but if he wants to compete and try to win a ring and wants to prove something, than that is all the Spurs could ask for.

Unlikely, but if he wants a shot at a ring it could happen.

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

I've had a source tell me that the day Iverson becomes a Spur is the day he's dead.

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The sad thing is that his defense wouldn't suffer any on that day.

Ole' !

Oh, and for that ridiculous rant of his, a player on his own team, Antonio McDyess, was an Olympian and a bench player.

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Originally Posted by Chillen

Iverson for LLE, yes, will it happen, probably not, but if he wants to win a ring and play with Duncan, Parker, Ginobili and Pop, why not. If he gets out of hand or does not work out, waive him.

Clearly signing for the LLE is up to AI, if he finds it insulting that is fine, but if he wants to compete and try to win a ring and wants to prove something, than that is all the Spurs could ask for.

Unlikely, but if he wants a shot at a ring it could happen.

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If Iverson were willing to accept a bench role @ LLE on a contender he'd have been signed by someone a long time ago.

Ahh man i dont want all the BS that iverson brings...but daym i would definitely buy a spurs Iverson jersey!!! sikkk!!!

Iverson on the spurs will boost jersey sales biggtime!!!

AI in satown is like the 2004 olympics all over again with some unfinished business!!!

AI has to sacrafice a starting position if he really wants a ring. Spurs have to consider this because he will bring us tremendous depth and we can become a little more vesatile. But I dont think we should offer him a starting job all season. Because anything can happen in a season due to injury. What if RJ goes down?? Or Parker or even Manu. AI could help all of those situations.

But he has to be willing to come off the bench if called upon. Only way I accept him on this team. LLE and offer him starting job at beginning of season but if needed to come off the bench he must agree to that. Only way he joins Spurs.

With TP, Manu, and AI, opposing defenses could never rest. Half the forum expects Manu to come off the bench next season as it is anyways. Signing Iverson for the LLE would be a masterstroke by the Spurs.

i don't think it would happen, but for that money, i say the Spurs should do it. he could come of the bench with Manu. i think he could play the role of 2nd string point guard as long as he understands Manu is option 1,2, and 3 on offense. if Manu is having an off night, Iverson can take over the scoring duties.

also, no one could replace Manu, but if Manu happens to get injured again, *knocks on wood* he could be our 6th man. the drop-off in talent wouldn't be nearly as bad as it would be without him.