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Does this have something to do with his jeans?
Even Obama himself wasn't a US citizen in his first several years of life because at the moment he got born, Hawaii was still an independent country. It was several years later that happened the complete union of US, actually Barack Obama immigrated into US together with an entire state.
Hawaii was annexed by the US in 1898.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue
Hawaii became a state in 1959.
Barack Obama was born in 1961.
^ lol Rogue
30 seconds of googling before posting can really help!
yeah but at THAT MOMENT, it was several years later that happened the complete union of the US
whats so hard to understand?
Obama's mom is dead but she was a U.S. citizen. She was born in Kansas.
How does that add up? Obama was born in 1961. Hawaii became a state in 1959.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue
The question is weather of not his birth certificate is legitimate. I'm not sure that was ever settled.
Well he is, in fact, President of the United States -- so it looks like it's pretty much settled.
Well, without joining in with the truthers on this...Presidents can be disqualified from office and removed. Taking the oath of office isn't an automatic immunity from future events that could disqualify you from being in office or being removed from same.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
It's in the constitution...read it.
Tell us all Yoni, do you personally believe Obama met the qualifications for citizenship to be elected president?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
I have no idea, I haven't been following the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
What I was pointing out, to you, was that just because he's now the president, matters that could disqualify him are not moot.
What matters?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
You have no idea what they are, although you are joining the thuthers by hoping something could be true.
Tell you what, why don't you go off and educate yourself about this issue about which you admit being completely ignorant, and then let us all know if you think Obama meets the citizenship qualification for the presidency. I personally think Palin would have made an issue of it if the stupid claims had any merit. There was ample time before the election for Republicans to actually make a case -- they didn't.
I'm sorry, I'm not that interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Would I be disappointed if Obama were removed from office? No.
So you join the birthers from a position of complete ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Sounds about right for you.
You know, you're a fucking gnat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
You know, you are ignorant and a liar and a plagiarist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Here's an article that sums things up nicely -- even including interviews with McCain's general counsel regarding the Obama citizenship question.
http://washingtonindependent.com/524...zenship-rumors
Let me know if you read it or choose to remain ignorant on this issue.
Aren't there more important issues?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I would think that you would be concerned and in this case elated that Obama might not be qualified to hold the office. You decided to post in this thread, and I don't see you posting about anything else right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
What's the problem?
Too many words for you?
Can't pass it off as your own now?
If you want to just remain ignorantly hopeful about this, it's your choice.
I decided to post in this thread because I knew it would wind you up. You're like one of those toys with the key in its back.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I post, you start nattering about like a little tin toy.
I think it's a non-issue unless it becomes an issue. Not something in which I choose to involve myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
You know you could have read that entire article in the time it took you to respond.
You really love being ignorant.
You know, you could just move on to another topic and quit buzzing around me like a gnat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
You really love being the fool to my straight man routine. I appreciate it.
You know, you could just read the article and relieve yourself of the total ignorance you continue to show in this thread.
You really love being the ignorant, lying plagiarist. I appreciate it.
:wakeup
Here's something to marinate on...
One of the best jobs to have on your Presidential Candidate resume is holding the Office of Governor. It's supposed to be a good measure of management skills. The Governor of California (a Republican), a crucial office in the US, was born in a foreign country and a few years ago there was talk about changing the constitution to allow a foreign born to hold the office of Presidency. I'd like to know if anyone has information on what the people (who I assume were Republicans, and probably still are) behind that movement think of the Obama "birth issue."
It seems to me like people are REALLY scared about Obama being Manchurian Candidate, but our own purebred Cowboy-way loving GW (who really had no genuine experience of the Cowboy character he displayed to the world) did so much harm to his own country by simply being "the decider" and nothing else. Take away all the fake outrage and see that, even if Obama was proven beyond a doubt to be foreign born, he's done more as a positive symbol for this country than most homegrown Presidents.
PS: Are the people discussing Obama conspiracies the same people that claim 9/11 was a conspiracy? Just wondering, cuz they look more and more similar as time goes on.
That's weird...but, whatever floats your boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
You know, I can actually visualize the key, sticking out of your back, rotating counter-clockwise.
Actually, Jerome Corsi, one of the lawyers who attempted to bring a lawsuit against Obama about his citizenship indeed tried to sue Bush and several members of his administration for causing the 9/11 attacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stringer_Bell
That's weird...but, whatever floats your boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
I can actually see you lying, plagiarizing and being ignorant by reading your posts.
That he is. That's why I seldom engage him in conversation anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
and he appreciates it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Well, I'm not going to worry about it any longer. I never heard this aspect of it before:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
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There was a birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser
And, the gnat has a sycophant.Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
Eh, he's a time-killer when I'm laid up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
You guys sure like talking about me to each other.
No. I was talking about Clambake who was, apparently, responding on your behalf.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Nope, that was about me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Why do have to lie about something as trivial as that?
Is it just a compulsion?
No, it was about me and what I do to pass the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
A little narcissistic, are we?
Did I hear a gnat? Where'd I put that fly swatter?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Apparently you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
You were talking about arguing with yourself when you are laid up to pass the time.
Your lies have reached the point of self delusion.
Saying I play chess to pass the time isn't talking about chess, it's talking about passing the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Your inability to parse the English language is causing you all sorts of trouble in here.
^i'll give theressurectedone an ROFL
So you were talking about playing chess now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
I'm sorry you are having a mental breakdown, but you shouldn't have lied so much.
No shit. What will his next screen name be once he embarrasses himself off the board again?Quote:
Originally Posted by mookie2001
No, I was trying to simplify the argument for you, Chumpy. Saying what someone does to pass the time doesn't make that something the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I've been mistaken in here but, I've never lied.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I was think of, "ChumpDumper is my bitch." How's that sound?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I mean, it would give a certain artistic flow to our incessant back and forths in here, don't you think?
Sure it does. You just can't stand being proven wrong over and over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
You lied about not being TRO. You lied about writing all those articles yourself. You lied when you said you weren't posting about me to Wild Cobra.Quote:
I've been mistaken in here but, I've never lied.
I think "Butthurt Ignorant Lying Plagiarist" would do just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
i wasn't responding for anyone. my statement to wc was more of a veiled request.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Okay, who am I to argue? Certainly not ChumpDumper who would probably spend the next twenty posts calling you a liar...Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
I mean, usually when someone states, "and he appreciates it," they're speaking for the he who appreciates. But, I guess you could be an idiot that way.
you shouldn't provide so much material that proves you're a liar.
and you should stay away from all threads regarding race.
You should never post, it only confirms your idiocy.Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
you're more entertaining when you're lying.
you shouldn't post as yourself.
I've never posted as myself. You think my name is Yonivore?Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
You would all find Chump quite likable if you watched him bait trolls instead of being the one biting on the line. Over and over again.
When he travelled as a youngster, I wonder what country issued his passport.
That would tell the tale.
The only people who are interested in this are racist loons. If you want to be taken seriously you should stop talking about this subject. Even debating it on the side of logic lowers yourself.
No, that's playing the race card to say you cannot talk about the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Upstate
It has nothing to do with the color of his skin. Some people honestly believe he was born in (was it) Kenya.
If you want to be taken serious, you shouldn't jump to stupid conclusions.
Love me some 'FUPA' (Fat upper pussy area) jeans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spursmania