Any chance the RNC campaigns on this? I hope they doQuote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
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Any chance the RNC campaigns on this? I hope they doQuote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Any chance liberals will get an honest bone in their body and realize, and accept, that people have no right to the fruits of other people's labor?Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
Any chance of any liberal honestly pointing out their socialist agenda takes from producers and gives to non-producers?
Nah, probably not.
So are you saying that the people who own the most shouldn't pay the most?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
You do realize that we all pay already don't you? For everyone else's healthcare that is... your an idiot.
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Originally Posted by Yonivore
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How about this for a New Rule: Not everything in America has to make a profit. It used to be that there were some services and institutions so vital to our nation that they were exempt from market pressures. Some things we just didn't do for money. The United States always defined capitalism, but it didn't used to define us. But now it's becoming all that we are.
Did you know, for example, that there was a time when being called a "war profiteer" was a bad thing? But now our war zones are dominated by private contractors and mercenaries who work for corporations. There are more private contractors in Iraq than American troops, and we pay them generous salaries to do jobs the troops used to do for themselves Luck_The_Fakers_-- like laundry. War is not supposed to turn a profit, but our wars have become boondoggles for weapons manufacturers and connected civilian contractors.
Prisons used to be a non-profit business, too. And for good reason --Luck_The_Fakers_ who the hell wants to own a prison? By definition you're going to have trouble with the tenants. But now prisons are big business. A company called the Corrections Corporation of America is on the New York Stock Exchange, which is convenient since that's where all the real crime is happening anyway. The CCA and similar corporations actually lobby Congress for stiffer sentencing laws so they can lock more people up and make more money. That's why America has the world;s largest prison population Luck_The_Fakers_-- because actually rehabilitating people would have a negative impact on the bottom line.
Television news is another area that used to be roped off from the profit motive. When Walter Cronkite died last week, it was odd to see news anchor after news anchor talking about how much better the news coverage was back in Cronkite's day. I thought, "Gee, if only you were in a position to do something about it."
But maybe they aren't. Because unlike in Cronkite's day, today's news has to make a profit like all the other divisions in a media conglomerate. That's why it wasn't surprising to see the CBS Evening News broadcast live from the Staples Center for two nights this month, just in case Michael Jackson came back to life and sold Iran nuclear weapons. In Uncle Walter's time, the news division was a loss leader. Making money was the job of The Beverly Hillbillies. And now that we have reporters moving to Alaska to hang out with the Palin family, the news is The Beverly Hillbillies.
And finally, there's health care. It wasn't that long ago that when a kid broke his leg playing stickball, his parents took him to the local Catholic hospital, the nun put a thermometer in his mouth, the doctor slapped some plaster on his ankle and you were done. The bill was $1.50, plus you got to keep the thermometer.
But like everything else that's good and noble in life, some Wall Street wizard decided that hospitals could be big business, so now they're run by some bean counters in a corporate plaza in Charlotte. In the U.S. today, three giant for-profit conglomerates own close to 600 hospitals and other health care facilities. They're not hospitals anymore; they're Jiffy Lubes with bedpans. America's largest hospital chain, HCA, was founded by the family of Bill Frist, who perfectly represents the Republican attitude toward health care: it's not a right, it's a racket. The more people who get sick and need medicine, the higher their profit margins. Which is why they're always pushing the Jell-O.
Because medicine is now for-profit we have things like "recision," where insurance companies hire people to figure out ways to deny you coverage when you get sick, even though you've been paying into your plan for years.
When did the profit motive become the only reason to do anything? When did that become the new patriotism? Ask not what you could do for your country, ask what's in it for Blue Cross/Blue Shield.
If conservatives get to call universal health care "socialized medicine," I get to call private health care "soulless vampires making money off human pain." The problem with President Obama's health care plan isn't socialism, it's capitalism.
And if medicine is for profit, and war, and the news, and the penal system, my question is: what's wrong with firemen? Why don't they charge? They must be commies. Oh my God! That explains the red trucks!
I'm saying everyone should pay proportionately.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
10% of a dime being the same as 10% of a Billion Dollars. If that's what you mean, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
But, when you have nearly 50% of the population paying absolutely nothing and 1% paying nearly 50% of the remainder, something's out of kilter.
Bill Maher is an idiot.
Remove profit motive and you remove productivity.
It would be more like "Alaman" for Barack if it happened, dude will still have over 3 years to live in the House even after losing this battle, unlike Napoleon who got immediately deported to an island right after losing the battle in waterloo. While, Barack would have no one to blame but himself and his left-wing political viewpoints, similarly it was also the fault of Napoleon himself to get his blood boiled by his own arrogance and finally make himself the enemy to the entire europe. There shouldn't be any doubt on Barack's genuine kindness and sweet hope for his fellow citizens, but dude chose a radical way somehow which may not be the best fit for America.
You are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Remove absolutes from your logic and you'll remove your own stupidity.
Every day that Obama is president, the Bush years don't look as bad as they were.
I'm not sick of Barack himself though, dude just has some weird political opinions that I don't like and can't be approval of. Health care is a system rooted in nation wide and has been suffering corruptions for many decades, obviously dude cannot resolve all the problems overnight once and for all. It's just like dude is trying to heal a tree from worms by soaking it up with formalin, it doesn't work and even the whole tree may get killed, but that's what a typical left-wing politician always dreams to do. You can never transfer 1,001 nights into real life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob1983
Damn, another shot in their own feet.
'RETARDED' HOUSE BILL
What's wrong with the bill?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
You mean, other than nationalizing 17% of the nation's economy, killing free enterprise, and establishing a health care system that will lead to rationing of degraded medical services?Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
Nothing.
I am so tired of this shit. Retard is a no, no word now. If these retards are retarded we should be able to use the word retard. You fags get mad at me for using the word fags when talking to fags. Fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can see how "retard" might be a little offensive... but "mental retardation" or "mentally retarded" are just a statement of fact about people that have that disability.
what is the PC term for retarded now? I think "mentally challenged" is more insulting myself.
In my younger days, the non-PC 1970s, I never really used "fag". I usually said "homo" - just an abbreviation of the scientific description.
Nobody gets mad at you, but plenty of people do think it's indicative that you, yourself, are a self-loathing closet fag.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
You're right, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender
It's just ironic that the left-leaning liberals of our Country, who have encouraged all this politically correct labeling, over the years, is getting bitten by their own dog.
healthcare is already rationed....Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Due to government interference.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
Due to the for-profit sector raping the shit out of sick people for every dollar they're worth.
Do explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by balli
I hate fish does that really mean I want to eat it all the time? I hate Obama does that mean I really love him? I hate shaving does that mean I really like it? I hate MTV does that mean I have it on my TV all the time? I hate Lindsay Lohan does that mean I am standing in line the night before the movie opens? I speak of all these things alot in my life. Basically everything I hate I really love or want to be?.....interesting, very interesting. Truth be told you are a fag and that is one of the thing fags say so they can justify being a fag.Quote:
Originally Posted by balli
fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
GayQuote:
Originally Posted by balli
balli laid out some psychological ownage, nicely done