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I wonder how much of that jump from -8 to -11 is represented by police officers.
who the fuck is rasmussen?
Gallup is the clearly most accepted pollster and they have him at 55%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/ga...-approval.aspx
oh its the word strongly. nice cherry picking douchebag.
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspxQuote:
Obama Widely Perceived as a Strong and Decisive Leader
July 24, 2009
Sixty-seven percent of Americans say that Obama is a strong and decisive leader and another two-thirds say that he understands the problems Americans face in their daily lives.
landslide
wasn't it Rasmussen who guaranteed an McLiar victory?
Okay, well on Gallup, Obama has gone from a high of 70% down to 55%. A drop of 15%. Not good.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
Worse is his Gallup disapproval rating. 37%, up from a low of 10%. That's a 27% rise in disapproval.
Face it, Obama sucks.
Okay, well Bush went from 90% approval to 25% approval.
Worse is he went from 6% disapproval to 71% disapproval. That's a 65 point rise in disapproval.
Face it, Bush sucked worse.
Not in the first six months of his presidency; it was only after an 8 year campaign by Bush-haters.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
And, another point. Obama has never seen 90/6 Approval vs. disapproval. I would say it is now very unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I guess you can wish for another terrorist attack on top of wishing the economy gets worse Yoni.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
You are a pathetic human being.
It was only after eight years of Bush's fucking up just about every aspect of his presidency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Face it, he sucked according to your own criteria.
All those police officers and family members. Nice touch Obama.
Was this stupid remark on his prompter durning the health care speech? This is sooooooo funny. The dumb fuck is trying to sell the bullshit health care bill and decides to call the police stupid. Yup,,,Obama is one smart motherfucker!!!
The police did act stupidly in that case.
And the drama queen brings up Bush yet again.......... Wheels are coming off.
Were you there?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
According to who? President "I-don't-know-all-the-facts?"Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Can you name one person, aside from Gates, who witnessed the arrest that has said the police acted "stupidly?"
Yoni's method of evaluating whether Obama "sucked" was asinine and he just pointed it out. By Yoni's own standards, Bush would likely be the worst president of all time. Poll differential is not exactly a winning argument when it comes to substantive discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
:dramaquee
oh the horror..he only has 3 1/2 years to turn it around...
You are gay and suck cock.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
Who was asked for their opinion besides the police?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Given the facts that the police themselves gave, it was a stupid arrest.
Just leave.
I'd say more like 14 months and, I don't think historical trends on presidential approval ratings are in his favor unless, of course, he performs spectacularly after some national catastropher...which, I suppose, is possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
However, without an opportunity to be presidential in a clutch, he's probably headed the way of Jimmy Carter...or worse.
So you are saying Bush is lucky all those people died on 9/11.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
You are a piece of shit.
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Originally Posted by Yonivore
I see, no one.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Right, no one was asked their opinion other than the police.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
I don't know. Opinions aren't usually part of a police report. I wouldn't mind seeing a survey of the assembled neighbors to see if they thought Professor Asshole was righteously or stupidly arrested.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I'm pretty sure there were some quotes from the neighbors in some of the media reports I read. I don't recall anyone defending him. But, I could be wrong...however, I think that would have stood out.
I think the general consensus was that he was acting strange, under the circumstances. By the way, that strange behavior hasn't really stopped.
So obviously he should be thrown in jail again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Strange behavior must be stopped at all costs.
I don't see the point...there doesn't appear to be an ongoing event that would be quelled by arresting him now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Strange behavior, in a highly-emotionally charged situation can be dangerous.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
What had to be quelled in the first place?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
You are saying the police feared for their safety or anyone else's?Quote:
Strange behavior, in a highly-emotionally charged situation can be dangerous.
None of them said that at any time. You are making shit up again.
We've been through all this, are you really that dense? Let's revisit the issue when a) the 911 tapes are released and b) someone gets a clue to ask the police officer how Mr. Gates actions met the elements a disorderly conduct charge. Neither you nor I are in a position to make a further determination on our positions until then.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I believe the African-American officer said Gates was acting strange. It is my opinion that people acting strangely in an emotionally-charged environment can do unpredictable things...sometimes, dangerous things. I never put those words in anyone's mouth or head.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
You can keep posting on this, if you like, but, until we have more information, it would be futile to continue arguing over things we don't know. So, have fun.
BAsed on the information the cops have given in their report and in several interviews, the charge wasn't going to fly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Yep, you are saying he was dangerous. Be scared of the old man. He'll kill us all.Quote:
Nope.
You just did it again, dumbass.Quote:
I believe the African-American officer said Gates was acting strange. It is my opinion that people acting strangely in an emotionally-charged environment can do unpredictable things...sometimes, dangerous things. I never put those words in anyone's mouth or head.
It's a good idea for you to stop posting here and elsewhere since all it does is further expose your ignorance.Quote:
You can keep posting on this, if you like, but, until we have more information, it would be futile to continue arguing over things we don't know. So, have fun.
he was a black man...:dramaqueeQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
Run for your lives!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattle Times
What do either of those facts have to do with anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
That you are incredibly stuipid for saying he was a danger to anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
So, you're going to say that an African-American, 5'7", 150-pound, glasses-wearing, cane-using, gray mustachioed and goteed, 58-year-old (and looking it) man isn't capable of violence?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
That's why I asked why any of those facts had anything to do with this incident.
You're incredibly stupid, as is Obama, for concluding -- without having all the fact and not having been present at the scene -- that Professor Gates wasn't a danger to anyone.
A lot more can go wrong when the police leave the scene while an individual is still in a highly-agitated state than can go wrong if you arrest him and remove him from the scene.
You're saying he was a direct threat to everyone that had to be stopped, which no one else who was there said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Your made up shit has nothing to do with the incident.Quote:
That's why I asked why any of those facts had anything to do with this incident.
You're incredibly, as are many racists, concluding -- without having all the facts and not having been present at the scene and with no supporting evidence from anyone at the scene -- that Gates was a danger to everyone.Quote:
You're incredibly, as is Obama, for concluding -- without having all the fact and not having been present at the scene -- that Professor Gates wasn't a danger to anyone.
Right, he was going to kill everyone. Everyone there said so.Quote:
A lot more can go wrong when the police leave the scene while an individual is still in a highly-agitated state than can go wrong if you arrest him and remove him from the scene.
No, I never said that. What I've been saying and what you refuse to recognize is that the police made a judgement call, probably based on a whole lot of previous experience in such situations, that it was prudent to arrest Mr. Gates. I am willing to bet every officer at the scene have seen similar situations deteriorate badly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
An Officer's previous experience is certainly relevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I've never said Gates was a danger to anyone. And, I've repeatedly said I am willing to wait until I hear the tapes of the event before making a final determination but, until then, I'm siding with the police...who are unanimous that it was a legitimate arrest.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Now, who's making shit up?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Excpet no one ever said anything about that in the report or since. You simply made it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Whose experience? Not yours, because you weren't there. If it was theirs, they should have already said they feared for everyone's safety. They didn't.Quote:
An Officer's previous experience is certainly relevant.
You did. Several times.Quote:
I've never said Gates was a danger to anyone.
Based on the fears you made up for them.Quote:
And, I've repeatedly said I am willing to wait until I hear the tapes of the event before making a final determination but, until then, I'm siding with the police...who are unanimous that it was a legitimate arrest.
You.Quote:
Now, who's making shit up?
Okay, I'm going to let all that idiocy stand on it's own. Good luck with that ChumpDumper.
It's ok to let all your idiocy stand on its own. The stupidity of the arrest stands on its own as well.