How's that for moving up in the world? :wow:wow
Maybe vacation rentals should be taxed to pay for healthcare? :lol
Obamas rent Republican's $20 million house on Martha's Vineyard
Barack Obama and his family will spend their August holiday on a $20 million (£12.5 million), 28-acre farm, complete with an apple orchard, private beach and even a basketball court to satisfy the president's sporting needs.
By Alex Spillius in Washington
Published: 10:04PM BST 28 Jul 2009
According to local reports, similar rental properties on the exclusive Martha's Vineyard island cost between $35,000 (£21,875) and $50,000 ($31,250) a week.
Contracts for the Blue Heron Farm show three leases for Mr Obama, the Secret Service and White House staff, with the president expected to cover his family's bill. Consisting of four buildings, the complex in Chilmark, a quieter part of the island, should have room for all.
The property is owned by William Van Devender, a Mississippi timber merchant who is a major donor to the Republican Party.
The White House had earlier confirmed that the president had settled on the Massachusetts island for his first holiday in office, but had attempted to keep the precise location secret.
Earlier speculation had put the family in the town of Oak Bluffs, which is home to a prominent African-American community that includes Henry Louis Gates Jr and Spike Lee.
The impending arrival of Mr Obama, his wife Michelle, their two daughters and pet dog Bo for a one-week stay is causing considerable excitement even in a place accustomed to celebrity tourists.
As the Obamas prepared for a bit of time out of the Washington spotlight, the White House released what it said was definitive proof that the 44th US president is an American citizen.
State officials in Hawaii on Monday said they had once again checked and confirmed that Mr Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born US citizen, and therefore meets a key constitutional requirement for being president.
A vocal group of conspiracy theorists known as "birthers" had claimed that the United States' first African-American president was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, and was thus ineligible for office.
07-28-2009
Wild Cobra
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
Who cares?
07-28-2009
George Gervin's Afro
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
ok
07-28-2009
Spursmania
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Who cares?
It's summer-no basketball. Why not?:lol
07-28-2009
ChumpDumper
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by Spursmania
How's that for moving up in the world? :wow:wow
They could already afford that years ago.
Nice display of class envy by you, though.
07-28-2009
Wild Cobra
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by Spursmania
It's summer-no basketball. Why not?:lol
I just don't care that it's expensive. He's the president. I may not like him, but the job does have certain perks. I'm not one to complain about the money he spends, or the cost of security that goes with being president. I see the thread as just another useless thread attempting to cause fighting.
07-28-2009
Marcus Bryant
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
There are classes in this country, and the present arrangement makes it likely that those will be more static than in the last 4 or 5 decades.
07-28-2009
Spursmania
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
They could already afford that years ago.
Nice display of class envy by you, though.
Not really. Just a little summer fun. By the way, he only started making some really good money in 2005 when his book money came in.
Obamas release 2008 tax return
The first family's income dropped to $2.7 million from $4.2 million the previous year. The president and first lady paid $855, 323 in federal taxes.
By John McCormick
April 16, 2009
Reporting from Chicago — The first family released its 2008 federal tax return today, showing household income dropping to $2.7 million, from $4.2 million the previous year.
But while many Americans had a bad financial year, President Obama recorded a net profit from book sales of $2.5 million, according to a copy of the tax return released this afternoon by the White House.
He and First Lady Michelle Obama paid $855,323 in federal taxes, while making $172,050 in charitable contributions to 37 different charities. The largest reported gifts were $25,000 to both the United Negro College Fund and the relief organization CARE. "The president sold a lot of books last year, no doubt, and paid a hefty amount in federal income tax," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said.
As president, Obama now is paid $400,000 a year.
Vice President Joe Biden and wife Jill reported adjusted gross income of $269,256 from salaries from the U.S. Senate, Widener University and Delaware Technical & Community College and royalties from the audio rights to the vice president's book. They paid $46,952 in federal income taxes.
A year ago, then-President George W. Bush reported taxable income of $719,274 for the 2007 tax year. He and Laura Bush paid $221,635 in federal income taxes that year.
The Obamas contributed $6 in 2008 to the federal fund that provides public financing of presidential campaigns, a program the Democratic nominee bypassed himself.
The first family's personal wealth has soared over the last few years, following the same trajectory of Obama's rapid political rise. Their annual household income fluctuated around the $250,000 mark during the first half of this decade, before his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004. Millions in book royalties and advances started rolling in during 2005.
Before entering the Senate, Obama signed two book deals worth nearly $2.3 million. He received about $1.2 million of the advance money in 2005, helping the couple afford their purchase that year of a $1.65-million house in Chicago's Kenwood neighborhood.
From 1997 through 2004, Obama earned dual paychecks for his work as a state lawmaker and as a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School.
Over the same period, Michelle Obama worked first for the University of Chicago and then for the University of Chicago Hospitals. Their household income was also augmented in most years by thousands of dollars that her husband earned from practicing law, giving speeches and serving as a director of charitable foundations.
The Obamas have only recently dug deeply into their own pockets to support charitable causes. In 2002, the year before Obama launched his U.S. Senate campaign, the couple reported income of $259,394 and $1,050 in deductions for gifts to charity, below the national average of $1,872. [email protected]
07-28-2009
Rogue
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
Obama earns hundreds of thousands of dollars every year from the federal government, obviously dude belongs to the rich class and can afford a week of vacation only costing half as the yearly income of a mid-level american worker. Anyway dude can't have so many weeks every year to spend on vacation, and it's rational for a millionaire like Obama to spend 1 million or some every year on tour.
07-28-2009
Spursmania
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
I just don't care that it's expensive. He's the president. I may not like him, but the job does have certain perks. I'm not one to complain about the money he spends, or the cost of security that goes with being president. I see the thread as just another useless thread attempting to cause fighting.
It's not as if you have to post if you don't like the thread.
07-28-2009
ChumpDumper
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By the way, he only started making some really good money in 2005 when his book money came in.
So my statement is true.
07-28-2009
Spursmania
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
So my statement is true.
Is it?
07-28-2009
ChumpDumper
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by Spursmania
Is it?
Yes.
07-28-2009
Rogue
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
That's what Obama earns as his salary, no dime of the money spent on vacations comes from tax payer dollars. Obama, as any other common american citizen, has the rights to spend his earning on whatever he wants as long as it doesn't break the law.
07-28-2009
Spursmania
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Yes.
Congratulations
Quite impressive.:toast
07-28-2009
Rogue
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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As the Obamas prepared for a bit of time out of the Washington spotlight, the White House released what it said was definitive proof that the 44th US president is an American citizen.
I'm not even sick of an alien being the president if dude can make america better than ever. Obama has also got such an ambition to bring US back to prosperity and make it greater than it has ever been, but dude has got to bring US out of troubles at first, which is still a mission remaining unresolved.
07-28-2009
TDMVPDPOY
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
and how many of those charitable donations get funneled back into his estate where it becomes tax free income? nothing beats tax avoidance if you know ur way around it....lmao....
rich get richer...get rich or die trying....
07-28-2009
ducks
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
so is he footing the bill or the tax payer?
I bet it is the tax payer and his salary is not going towards his vaction
07-29-2009
ploto
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... with the president expected to cover his family's bill.
It's right there in the article.
07-29-2009
FromWayDowntown
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
n/m
07-29-2009
fyatuk
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by Rogue
That's what Obama earns as his salary, no dime of the money spent on vacations comes from tax payer dollars. Obama, as any other common american citizen, has the rights to spend his earning on whatever he wants as long as it doesn't break the law.
Not entirely true. Obama is paying for his family, yes, but the taxpayer still pays the exhoribitant rates for the Secret Service and WH Staff that goes along with him.
No big deal though. He can take whatever vacation he wants, since it's not like he can actually say no to the SS and WH staff accompaniment.
07-29-2009
ElNono
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
I bet the ranch in Crawford was a lot cheaper!
07-29-2009
Wild Cobra
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by ElNono
I bet the ranch in Crawford was a lot cheaper!
I don't see why this is a big deal to anyone except gossipers. Do you? For personal expenditures, I'll bet you're right. It seems to me that the Obama's should have just bought their own nice place, instead of renting, but that's their business.
Guy's, give the man a break on his personal life.
07-29-2009
antimvp
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
........and?
07-29-2009
101A
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
My only question is:
Did the Clintons claim their vacation rentals that were donated on their tax returns?
The IRS might need to talk to them; maximum gift = $10K
Obama?
If you got it, spend it. (also good to see he's gotten his charitable giving up to respectable levels; what it was before he ran for Senate was a disgrace.
07-29-2009
ChumpDumper
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by 101A
My only question is:
Did the Clintons claim their vacation rentals that were donated on their tax returns?
The IRS might need to talk to them; maximum gift = $10K
I'm sure they already would have had there been anything illegal.
07-29-2009
DarrinS
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
This kind of wasteful spending is only important if it involves the wardrobe of one Sarah Palin.
Sincerely,
MSM
07-29-2009
ChumpDumper
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
Palin wasn't spending her own money.
Sincerely,
Reality
07-29-2009
George Gervin's Afro
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
This kind of wasteful spending is only important if it involves the wardrobe of one Sarah Palin.
Sincerely,
MSM
Why do you not want the president to take a vaction?
07-29-2009
elbamba
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
I always hated that people picked apart every move Bush made, I wish Republicans would show some class by not politicizing every move our president makes. If President Obama can afford this trip, more power to him. I save my money so that I can go on nice trips with my wife and kids. I have been able to save money due to certain tax advantages that come with owning my own business...I am still a good person. and not a tax cheat. Lets stop the overreaction.
07-29-2009
Wild Cobra
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by elbamba
I always hated that people picked apart every move Bush made, I wish Republicans would show some class by not politicizing every move our president makes. If President Obama can afford this trip, more power to him. I save my money so that I can go on nice trips with my wife and kids. I have been able to save money due to certain tax advantages that come with owning my own business...I am still a good person. and not a tax cheat. Lets stop the overreaction.
Are conservatives making a big deal of it? I agree. Let the man vacation in peace.
07-29-2009
Jacob1983
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
This is totally wrong and inappropriate. Obama does not need to be on vacation right now. The economy is a mess. He needs to be at the Whitehouse doing his job. And if he's really dedicated to Obamacare then he shouldn't be taking a vacation. Bush got blasted for all the times he went on vacation so Obama should get the same treatment in my opinion.
07-29-2009
clambake
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by Jacob1983
This is totally wrong and inappropriate. Bush got blasted for all the times he went on vacation
nah, you guys said he was a wurkin prez no matter where he was.
07-29-2009
Wild Cobra
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by Jacob1983
This is totally wrong and inappropriate. Obama does not need to be on vacation right now. The economy is a mess. He needs to be at the Whitehouse doing his job. And if he's really dedicated to Obamacare then he shouldn't be taking a vacation. Bush got blasted for all the times he went on vacation so Obama should get the same treatment in my opinion.
So are you in the opinion that two wrongs make a right?
That's a disgrace of the left that they are crybabies over any trivial thing. I'm not going to stoop to their level. Just because the left is a bunch of hypocrites doesn't mean intelligent people need to be.
07-29-2009
fyatuk
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by clambake
nah, you guys said he was a wurkin prez no matter where he was.
Now-a-days, it's true no matter who the president is. Everything he could possibly need to do his jobs is going to be at his disposal, no matter where he vacations. They'd setup a mini-oval office in the Antactic if the had to.
It's more of taking some light days instead of taking some days off.
07-29-2009
ducks
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I'm sure they already would have had there been anything illegal.
do you really believe that
07-29-2009
Bartleby
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by Jacob1983
This is totally wrong and inappropriate. Obama does not need to be on vacation right now. The economy is a mess. He needs to be at the Whitehouse doing his job. And if he's really dedicated to Obamacare then he shouldn't be taking a vacation. Bush got blasted for all the times he went on vacation so Obama should get the same treatment in my opinion.
If Obama spends as much of his presidency on vacation as Bush did (more than any other U.S. president) you may have something to bitch about. Otherwise STFU.
07-29-2009
DarrinS
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
Why do you not want the president to take a vaction?
I hope he takes many.
07-29-2009
ChumpDumper
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by ducks
do you really believe that
Yes I do. A sitting vice-president was forced to resign when facing prosecution for tax evasion not too long ago. He was given perhaps the lightest sentence ever meted out for such a charge, but it did happen.
Clinton makes so much money now, there is no reason not to pay taxes on gifts if that's the way they are handled.
If Obama spends as much of his presidency on vacation as Bush did (more than any other U.S. president) you may have something to bitch about. Otherwise STFU.
Hmmmm.....
Just where was he suppose to be as the White House has being remodeled? Funny how he got so much work done on vacation too. This is why I call you guys LIBTARDS! You regurgitate the propaganda bullshit your masters tell you to. You're such a good Kool-Aid drinking Lemming.
How about looking at a counter view. Watch FahrenHYPE 9/11.
\
7:25 into part 3 debunks the lies about President Bush's vacationing.
The 42% included weekends, travel time, and 38 days at Camp David. It was time he wasn't at the White House. Not vacation time, because he actually worked. He has Planned a summit with the Russian Leader, Met with President Fox of Mexico, and other things.
Here is seven days of that 42% vacation:
Monday, 8/20/01:
Spoke at the Annual Veterans of Foreign Wars convention in Milwaukee, WI.
Signed 6 bills into law
Announced 7 nominees
Spoke with workers at the Harley Davidson factory
Dined with Governor Bill Graves of Kansas
Tuesday, 8/21/01:
Took press questions at a Target store in Kansas City, MO.
Spoke with Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien about Free Trade
Wednesday, 8/22/01 (Texas Ranch):
Met with some WH staff
Conferenced with Mexico’s president on Argentina’s economy and IMF role.
Talked with Margeret Lamontagne on Immigration Policy meetings.
Released the Mid-Session review, a summary of the economic outlook for the next decade.
Announce 14 nominations and appointment intentions.
Issued a presidential determination ordering a military drawdown for Tunisia.
Issued a statement regarding the retirement of Sen. Jesse Helms.
Thursday, 8/23/01 (Texas Ranch):
Spoke with the press.
Visited Crawford Elementary School and answered student questions.
Friday, 8/24/01 (Texas Ranch):
Visited with officials from Washington.
Had a Press Conference.
Announced the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and 15 other appointments.
Met with National Security and Defense officials regarding Military Transformation.
Met with Andy Card and Karen Hughes about communications issues.
Issued a proclamation honoring Women’s Equality Day.
Saturday, 8/25/01:
Received a CIA and National Security Briefing.
Gave his weekly radio address.
Sunday, 8/26/01:
Spoke at the Little League series in Williamsport, PA.
Spoke at the U.S. Steel Group Steelworkers picnic at Mon Valley Works.
07-29-2009
velik_m
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
Next thing you'll be telling us, that when he goes to a hotel, he stays in the presidential suite.
07-30-2009
elbamba
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by Jacob1983
This is totally wrong and inappropriate. Obama does not need to be on vacation right now. The economy is a mess. He needs to be at the Whitehouse doing his job. And if he's really dedicated to Obamacare then he shouldn't be taking a vacation. Bush got blasted for all the times he went on vacation so Obama should get the same treatment in my opinion.
Why? Does the country really need 8 years of bashing a president? Didn't it really bother you when they did it to Bush? What is Obama just sat at his desk doing nothing, would that be any different then doing nothing on vacation? Can't Obama work while he is on vacation. I took a cruise last year to the Balkans and I managed to get quite a bit of work done on the 12 day cruise. I would imagine that Obama isn't going to stop being president at Martha's Vineyard.
07-30-2009
Yonivore
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by elbamba
I would imagine that Obama isn't going to stop being president at Martha's Vineyard.
That's a shame.
07-30-2009
George Gervin's Afro
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Hmmmm.....
Just where was he suppose to be as the White House has being remodeled? Funny how he got so much work done on vacation too. This is why I call you guys LIBTARDS! You regurgitate the propaganda bullshit your masters tell you to. You're such a good Kool-Aid drinking Lemming.
How about looking at a counter view. Watch FahrenHYPE 9/11.
\
7:25 into part 3 debunks the lies about President Bush's vacationing.
The 42% included weekends, travel time, and 38 days at Camp David. It was time he wasn't at the White House. Not vacation time, because he actually worked. He has Planned a summit with the Russian Leader, Met with President Fox of Mexico, and other things.
Here is seven days of that 42% vacation:
Monday, 8/20/01:
Spoke at the Annual Veterans of Foreign Wars convention in Milwaukee, WI.
Signed 6 bills into law
Announced 7 nominees
Spoke with workers at the Harley Davidson factory
Dined with Governor Bill Graves of Kansas
Tuesday, 8/21/01:
Took press questions at a Target store in Kansas City, MO.
Spoke with Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien about Free Trade
Wednesday, 8/22/01 (Texas Ranch):
Met with some WH staff
Conferenced with Mexico’s president on Argentina’s economy and IMF role.
Talked with Margeret Lamontagne on Immigration Policy meetings.
Released the Mid-Session review, a summary of the economic outlook for the next decade.
Announce 14 nominations and appointment intentions.
Issued a presidential determination ordering a military drawdown for Tunisia.
Issued a statement regarding the retirement of Sen. Jesse Helms.
Thursday, 8/23/01 (Texas Ranch):
Spoke with the press.
Visited Crawford Elementary School and answered student questions.
Friday, 8/24/01 (Texas Ranch):
Visited with officials from Washington.
Had a Press Conference.
Announced the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and 15 other appointments.
Met with National Security and Defense officials regarding Military Transformation.
Met with Andy Card and Karen Hughes about communications issues.
Issued a proclamation honoring Women’s Equality Day.
Saturday, 8/25/01:
Received a CIA and National Security Briefing.
Gave his weekly radio address.
Sunday, 8/26/01:
Spoke at the Little League series in Williamsport, PA.
Spoke at the U.S. Steel Group Steelworkers picnic at Mon Valley Works.
So a president can work while he's on vacation? Dumbass:rolleyes
07-30-2009
Yonivore
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
So a president can work while he's on vacation?
It would be nice if this one didn't.
07-30-2009
George Gervin's Afro
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
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Originally Posted by Yonivore
It would be nice if this one didn't.
You may want to fill in your sister wild cobra and let him know she's exposing herslef as a hypocrite..
07-30-2009
Wild Cobra
Re: OBAMA Vacation: Cost 35,000-50,000 a week
Wow... George is really stupid. I was defending Obama on this one.
