Probably an old video, but it's the first time I've seen it.
Good for him.
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Probably an old video, but it's the first time I've seen it.
Good for him.
Meh.
Could have been handled better. More feel-good jingoism.
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
I guess it just means more to him that it does to you.
yep, old news. Cool though.
and stealing and carrying a large knife in public is not illegal ?
Armed robbery is ok if you love the piece of cloth you are stealing.
Armed Robbery? You're one of those idiots that think burglary is robberty too, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
You have already proven your ignorance of the law. The owners of the flag were right there. There was a weapon and intimidation involved. It's pretty clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
whats a robberty?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
A misspellling...didn't mean to confuse you.Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
That'll show the brown man.
Racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Yes, you are.
Not me, I don't speak in terms that ascribe actions to a persons race. "That'll show the brown man," is a racist statement. You made it, I didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
I can probably look up the sentencing guidelines to armed robbery in Nevada pretty easily, but I haven't been able to find the penalty for flying another nation's flag over that of the US. I'm going to guess the latter is a bit less harsh than the former.
Usa! Usa! Usa! Usa!
Wtf?
it's criminal mischief at least
And I'm proud to be an American
Where our flag flies higher than yours
And if you don't abide that law
I'll record myself marching over to your shop to cut down the flag and send it to the local news without talking to you, you stupid fucking Mexican.
i love how he crumples up the american flag. that'll show those messicans
and he did steal that 'merica flag
NevadaQuote:
Originally Posted by rjv
- Summary: Generally OK.
- Max length: None apparent.
- Specifically illegal: switchblades, belt-buckle knives
- Relevant laws: NRS 202
yeah. this was a bit much. destruction of property. i don't see the intimidation. one of him and two of them. plus anybody who was in the store, but i see how this would upset a veteran. doesn't make it right though. i think this happened last year sometime.
1976: Baseball player, Rick Monday, steals American flag from two peaceful demonstrators.
For the record, I can't tell the skin color of the "victims" of this particular flag theft, so I can't truly judge Monday's motivation for this heinous crime.
Are you fucking kidding me? He brandishes a knife and wants to fight anyone who wants to take the flag back.Quote:
i don't see the intimidation.
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
We're all lucky to still be alive.
An actual felony was committed in this case.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
yeah. he sure told that camera. poor camera.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
now this i gotta hearQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
why aren't you guys guarding the border? all this time and you haven't managed to bag an illegal.
I see dumb people.Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
How is the Mexican flag illegal?
If those are indeed the owners of the flag -- the photographer's questions imply just that -- it's armed robbery. Armed robbery is a felony in Nevada.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
it's your reflection.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
are you fucking kidding me. This guy is an example of an everyday American hero, stepping up and making sure not only was his voice heard, but the right thing was done. The person(s) who put the Mexican flag above our flag are the exact opposite if you ask me. Sorry if I turn a blind eye to a "by the book" charge against some mexicans who obviously don't love this nation and should probably be deported anyway. I won't point an obvious issue you missed: that they (the mexicans) were looking for trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
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Originally Posted by z0sa
Chump's ilk are the type that spit on this man when he returned from Vietnam.
Maybe he should just shoot them in the back when they are running away! A true American hero!Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
nobody said he was in vietnam, dumbass.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Armed robbery is not the right thing to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
I know it's against the US code, but what is the actual penalty for flying the US flag under another flag?Quote:
The person(s) who put the Mexican flag above our flag are the exact opposite if you ask me.
I'm fine with both parties respecting the law. You obviously are not. What evidence do you have that they are not legal citizens?Quote:
Sorry if I turn a blind eye to a "by the book" charge against some mexicans who obviously don't love this nation and should probably be deported anyway.
What evidence do you have that he was spat upon? And no, I'm the type that is against armed robbery for the purpose of correcting the relative heights of pieces of cloth.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Fuckin messicans and their national pride! Everyone knows all other nations suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
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Originally Posted by Shastafarian
I don't care if the flag was from fucking Sweden. It doesn't fly over ours. This is not an anti-Mexican thing, as much as you guys would like to make it about that.
Since it's "illegal" to fly another flag over the US one, what's the penalty?
i know. now you've turned it into "spitting on a guy that came back from vietnam even though nobody said he was in vietnam".Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Rewatch the video. He doesn't run up with the knife out while foaming at the mouth. He calmly pulls the flag down before he brings his knife into view. The mexicans couldve stopped him before he did anything without fear of the knife since he didn't brandish it til later. They just chose not to.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Death, or an obvious inferrence that you don't like America. I forget.Quote:
I know it's against the US code, but what is the actual penalty for flying the US flag under another flag?
He didn't break the law. If he did, its not for armed robbery.Quote:
I'm fine with both parties respecting the law. You obviously are not.
What evidence do you have that they are? Besides, I never "assumed", I justified my take with the fact they knowingly and willingly broke the law in a way that is extremely hurtful to most American citizens. Therefore, I must presume he/they isn't one.Quote:
What evidence do you have that they are not legal citizens?
armed robbery :lmao the guy used his knife to take the flag off the pole. He never intimidated the actual men there. The whole purpose of the final bit he did was that the American flag is more than just cloth, its something worth dying for. So come and get it if you want it back - they obviously don't care for it, so they won't.Quote:
And no, I'm the type that is against armed robbery for the purpose of correcting the relative heights of pieces of cloth.
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Originally Posted by clambake
I'm telling you. The man that cut down that flag is a Vietnam vet.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/...80cbd9c0b8.jpg
Quick! Call Vets with Knives!
says who?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
(c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.
apples and orangesQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
along with a couple of others here.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
^ This is actually against Texas Flag Code --> http://flagspot.net/flags/us-txcod.html
i actually think texas is the only state that can.
where did he serve in vietnam?Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
:lmao
and you think palin is stupid....what an idiot
:lmao
the country of texas
:lmao
the vietnam vet that wasn't?
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One need not be excited to commit armed robbery.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
Please let me know once you figure it out.Quote:
Death, or an obvious inferrence that you don't like America. I forget.
He absolutely broke the law, and if those are the flag's owners, it is armed robbery.Quote:
He didn't break the law. If he did, its not for armed robbery.
How do you know they knew that is part of the US Code? You don't. How is it "hurtful"? Does it hurt people's feelings? Is that a crime now?Quote:
What evidence do you have that they are? Besides, I never "assumed", I justified my take with the fact they knowingly and willingly broke the law in a way that is extremely hurtful to most American citizens. Therefore, I must assume he/they isn't one.
If those were the flag's owners it meets all the elements of armed robbery in Nevada. I know you just want to support it because you are apparently hurt by the sight of some flag flying over that of the US, but if you actually claim to respect the law you can't support it.Quote:
armed robbery :lmao the guy used his knife to take the flag off the pole. He never intimidated the actual men there. The whole purpose of the final bit he did was that the American flag is more than just cloth, its something worth dying for. So come and get it if you want it back - they obviously don't care for it, so they won't.
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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
You failed once again. You must be going for the record.Quote:
Originally Posted by US Code Title 4, Chapter 1, § 7
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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
More fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Flag Code
ah. must be confusing that with the six flags code. that one the texas flag is the highest.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
give us a break darrins.
a 5 minute video?
i'll pass.
Great videos! Saving the flag from being disrespected is an incredible sign of patriotism.
"A thoughtful mind, when it sees a Nation's flag, sees not the flag only, but the Nation itself; and whatever may be its symbols, its insignia, he reads chiefly in the flag the Government, the principles, the truths, the history which belongs to the Nation that sets it forth." -Henry Ward Beecher
"We Identify the flag with almost everything we hold dear on earth, peace, security, liberty, our family, our friends, our home... But when we look at our flag and behold it emblazoned with all our rights we must remember that it is equally a symbol of our duties. Every glory that we associate with it is the result of duty done."
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Originally Posted by clambake
I just thought it would be easier for you than reading.
And it does present both sides.
What six flags code?Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
I think they missed one side -- has anyone ever been prosecuted for something like this?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Since burning the flag is protected free speech, I don't see how this could actually be an enforceable law -- just a protocol guideline.
both sides of what?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
he was neither excited nor committing armed robbery. If you think 12 jurors would find this man guilty of that crime, you're a dumbass. I know for 100% you're not a patriot already, so your answer here will pretty much sum things up for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
its Death.Quote:
Please let me know once you figure it out.
Nope.Quote:
He absolutely broke the law, and if those are the flag's owners, it is armed robbery.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse, first off. Second, you're either being facetious or you're just dumb. They know flying it above the American is wrong. If I saw anyone do it anywhere I could get to, I'd respond in the same way (not with a knife and cutting it down maybe, but bringing the flag down and taking it off the pole).Quote:
How do you know they knew that is part of the US Code? You don't.
To fly any flag above the US is against the law. It also tends to enrage everyone but those who should be deported. Therefore, expect angry people, and lots of them, to show up. And chances are, calling the police would be foolish. They'd arrive and if the flag hadn't been taken down already, they'd do it. Then they'd clear everyone up and leave. No armed robbery.Quote:
How is it "hurtful"? Does it hurt people's feelings? Is that a crime now?
Disagree due to circumstances. Again, no jury would convict him of armed robbery. I don't believe that's really even debatable.Quote:
If those were the flag's owners it meets all the elements of armed robbery in Nevada.
I'm just defending the flag, what any patriot does. You are not one of us and therefore, have no idea why we would be distraught over the situation.Quote:
I know you just want to support it because you are apparently hurt by the sight of some flag flying over that of the US,
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
not the amusement park, idiotQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
No, I don't think he would be convicted by a jury -- but neither was OJ.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
Nope.Quote:
its Death.
Yep.Quote:
Nope.
Says who? You have no proof of this. They might just be stupid.Quote:
Ignorance of the law is no excuse, first off. Second, you're either being facetious or you're just dumb. They know flying it above the American is wrong.
I'd probably talk to the guy first -- but hey, I believe in the First Amendment more than I do pieces of cloth.Quote:
If I saw anyone do it anywhere I could get to, I'd respond in the same way (not with a knife and cutting it down maybe, but bringing the flag down and taking it off the pole).
So who has been successfully prosecuted for such a display?Quote:
To fly any flag above the US is against the law.
I counted one guy.Quote:
It also tends to enrage everyone but those who should be deported. Therefore, expect angry people, and lots, to show up.
Circumstances? What, you're claiming the guy was temporarily insane? I completely agree that nobody would want to touch that case with a ten foot pole -- Americans can be pussies when it comes to things like that.Quote:
Disagree due to circumstances. Again, no jury would convict him of armed robbery. I don't believe that's really even debatable.
I'd rather defend a person's rights in this country than your feelings about a piece of cloth.Quote:
I'm just defending the flag, what any patriot does. You are not one of us and therefore, have no idea why we would be distraught over the situation.
Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
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Originally Posted by Viva Las Esfailas
Strike three.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Flag Code that Esfailas should have read when he had the chance
You failed.
They were breaking the law AND provoking people is what you do not wish to understand. If that guy didn't show up, someone else would. He took the law into his own hands in a way, but I don't see how he broke said law except by taking someone else's flag - He didn't rob them, he asked if anyone wanted it they could take it. No one answered his request. If you really think he was going to murder someone with a smaller than butterknife sized army-issue blade on camera (thus, ultimately television), I may be giving you too much credit.Quote:
Circumstances? What, you're claiming the guy was temporarily insane? I completely agree that nobody would want to touch that case with a ten foot pole -- Americans can be pussies when it comes to things like that.
yeah chump, there was a small army beginning to form on the other side of that grassy knoll.
this lone patriot prevented all-out war.
good take. You add something to the discussion constantly. What would we do without clambake gaying up threads with his self-perceived hilarity?Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
:lmao
you're such a tool. monkey see. monkey do.
why do you religious whacknuts always champion the gay?Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
It's not my fault you were so completely wrong about everything you posted in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
religious whacknut >>>>> anti-religious simpleton who thinks he's funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
tell us more about the gays.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
i have gay friends and family. What would you like to know about them? That they like dick or vagina over dick or vagina? That they aren't butthurt everytime I drop the gay word around them?Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
thats pretty good, little jesus. you got gay, dick, vagina and butthurt.
keep going.
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Too bad this wasn't in Texas; the owner could have shot the vandal.
:rollin
George Bernard Shaw:
Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it.
I'd wager that's the last time I'll see Shaw quotes here...Quote:
Originally Posted by rjv
An asylum for the sane would be empty in America.
:lol This is why I don't bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I wonder if that Mexican knew he was breaking the law? I doubt he was legal. He ran inside that bar fast. If he was legal I GURANTEE he had some working there that were not.
What's the penalty for breaking that law?Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
I take it glorifying the state is more important to you than free speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
You get a pissed off vet who comes with an army knife to cut down the flag. Didn't you see the video?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
So there is no legal penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by cool cat
OK. Thanks for clearing that up.
"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."
-Alexander Hamilton