Should the Spurs Be Shopping Tony Parker?

Let me get this straight, you have a PG who shot 55, 52, 49, and 51% from the field the last 4 years, can get in the paint whenever he pleases, and you are asking him not to score?

To top it off, the same PG plays the pick and roll with your franchise PF flawlessly, is a master of the drive and kick, and you are saying that he is not a good distributor?

Finally, there are 2, maybe 3 PGs in the whole league that you would consider an upgrade over your current PG, and the owners of those 2 or 3 PG will never ever do the trade. So where is the trade going to come from?

BTW, Parker averaged 17.5 shots a game last year, Duncan 14.8, and Manu 11.2, with Mason averging 10, and Gooden, Bonner and Finley all > 5 shots a game. It's a relatively balanced attack.

Why get rid of your best player? :lol

bonner, finley, and mason's post season shooting wasn't a result of a lack of "rondo-like" playmaking. if tony doesn't drop 25-30 ppg in that series we come out a helluva lot worse.

understand the caliber of players rondo has around him. ray allen is one of the best guards in the league at moving without the ball. during the playoffs i remember seeing a play that boston runs fairly often where ray ray runs pretty much the entire perimeter of the half court set, runs underneath the basket, gets like 3 screens in the process, and spots up to catch an easy pass for a wide open shot... this ain't cp3/nash/kidd style play making. it's having a couple of hall of famers on the court with you that know where to be.

a great championship team will have guys that can get themselves open and create their own offense when needed. no high assist averaging point guard has won the chip since magic. not stockton, nash, kidd, paul (although he's young). manu, td, and rj don't need to be spoonfed. the cohesion will be there through a somewhat modified offense and parker will continue to run this team as seamless as he has - he's really a custom fit imo.

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Originally Posted by portnoy1

Ok fair enough. However what killed us in the playoffs was the role players not being involved in the offense. Half of that is fault/responsibility of the point guard. By having a point guard who understands Strengths of all the players ( Role players especially ) everyone can thrive regardless of who is in or out of the Lineup.

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:rolleyes and what about what killed us in the playoffs was loosing Manu and having role players like Finley and Udoka ?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

No, they shouldn't be shopping Tony Parker.

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They should be shooting whoever wrote this garbage. TP shouldn't even be talked about in any kind of trade.

Nope, unless they are getting D-Will, Rose, or Paul

I think it's time for a facepalm emoticon.

Ok, u guys seriously need to quit being homers...did u guys even watch the playoffs last year? Rondo was putting up triple-doubles basically every game, he was a fucken beast and the main reason the Cs took the Magic to 7 games. He's only like 23 and still has room to improve as well which is scary. Perkins is a proven serviceable big-man that can easily turn into a double-double guy, Mahinmi on the other hand is raw and can only hope that he pans out.

Now I dont think it will happen, nor do I blame anyone that wouldnt take this trade...but also dont act like this trade is completely crazy. If it were offered to the Spurs, which it wont be, I would want them to make the deal. Rondo is a pimp, he's a capable scorer and penetrator and a much better general than Tony will ever be.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhh you ^

17 ppg, 10 apg, and 10 rpg in the playoffs and only 23 yrs old, add in Perkins who averaged 12 ppg and 12 rpg and is only 24 yrs old...and the Spurs would be stupid to not take this deal. Not only will they contribute now but once they develope even more and TD moves on, that would be a formidable future nucleus.

Not that it'll happen though, I dont think Boston would offer it.

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Originally Posted by Bukefal

Why get rid of your best player? :lol

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We're not getting rid of Duncan.

i trade his sorry ass if the right package comes along...

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Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY

i trade his sorry ass if the right package comes along...

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You'd trade Parker regardless of the offer. :lol

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Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY

i trade his sorry ass if the right package comes along...

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Jealous?

You know we give alot of shit to Laker fans who are non stop on Kobe's jock, but Spur fans who don't even appreciate a great talent like TP on thier team are even more pathetic.

which part of the right package dont u supporters get the message?

yeh sure there are a few spurs supporters on here who hate certain players on the team, but no way are the haters going to trade a player for shit in return...this aint fkn memphis grizzlies.

you said "his sorry ass" which he isn't. He's a very good player. If you said "I would trade him for the right package" well thats a different story.

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Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY

which part of the right package dont u supporters get the message?

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Just referencing your Parker bashing in the not-so-distant past...

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Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan

We're not getting rid of Duncan.

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I think TP is now the best player on the court for us

speaking of parker do you know who is favored to win the next game, (refrence to the french team) because if they do win parker will be playing well into september with that ankle nopt resting

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Originally Posted by Lackluster

bonner, finley, and mason's post season shooting wasn't a result of a lack of "rondo-like" playmaking. if tony doesn't drop 25-30 ppg in that series we come out a helluva lot worse.

understand the caliber of players rondo has around him. ray allen is one of the best guards in the league at moving without the ball. during the playoffs i remember seeing a play that boston runs fairly often where ray ray runs pretty much the entire perimeter of the half court set, runs underneath the basket, gets like 3 screens in the process, and spots up to catch an easy pass for a wide open shot... this ain't cp3/nash/kidd style play making. it's having a couple of hall of famers on the court with you that know where to be.

a great championship team will have guys that can get themselves open and create their own offense when needed. no high assist averaging point guard has won the chip since magic. not stockton, nash, kidd, paul (although he's young). manu, td, and rj don't need to be spoonfed. the cohesion will be there through a somewhat modified offense and parker will continue to run this team as seamless as he has - he's really a custom fit imo.

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So your saying that finley being the good shooter that he is, couldnt come off of 2-3 screens and hit a few jumpshots to loosen the defense up? thats what i'm getting from your statement. A shooter is a shooter. Their are different ways of using them. If finley were on the C's he could probably avg. 10-14pts a game instead of 9. If ray allen were on the Spurs he would probably avg. 10-14pts a game instead of 18pts. simply because the C's move their shooters around on the court like Allen/House. The spurs STAND their shooters in the CORNER like Finley/Mason jr.

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Originally Posted by portnoy1

So your saying that finley being the good shooter that he is, couldnt come off of 2-3 screens and hit a few jumpshots to loosen the defense up? thats what i'm getting from your statement. A shooter is a shooter. Their are different ways of using them. If finley were on the C's he could probably avg. 10-14pts a game instead of 9. If ray allen were on the Spurs he would probably avg. 10-14pts a game instead of 18pts. simply because the C's move their shooters around on the court like Allen/House. The spurs STAND their shooters in the CORNER like Finley/Mason jr.

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Let's assume for the moment that everything you say in this post is true.

Wouldn't the problem, as you see it, be with the coaching, the offensive schemes and the complementary players available and not necessarily with the point guard?

In the hypothetical scenario in which Parker is swapped for Rondo, are you really that sure that the Spurs offensive production would increase while the Celtics would see a drop in team offense?

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Originally Posted by FkLA

Ok, u guys seriously need to quit being homers...did u guys even watch the playoffs last year? Rondo was putting up triple-doubles basically every game

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Did YOU watch the playoffs last year? He only put up 3 trip-doubles, and the only reason his averages were what they were was because of having one or two games with outlandish single category stats based on the fact no one else on that Celts team could do anything. He has no jumper, and the only reason he got to the rim as much as he did, was poor defending by the opposition.

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He's only like 23 and still has room to improve as well which is scary.

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:lmao So does Parker, that is scary. :wow

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Perkins is a proven serviceable big-man that can easily turn into a double-double guy, Mahinmi on the other hand is raw and can only hope that he pans out.

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Perkins didn't even average a double-double last year. And the only reason he did in the playoffs is because Garnett was out. Are you suggesting Perkins would be our #1 big man. :wtf

And your main argument for Rondo is that he is young. Are you trying to say Mahinmi is old and can't improve?

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Rondo is a pimp, he's a capable scorer and penetrator and a much better general than Tony will ever be.

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Rondo's a fluke, headcase that was actually getting shopped. Tony is a much better scorer, penetrator, and (after this year will show :lobt2:) better General then Rondo will ever be.

Tony Parker for Mayor