I read that Desmond Mason negotations with the Thunder have ended. Since a lot of people have suggested one of our remaining spots could be an established small forward I was wondering how Mason could fit that role.
I haven't seen him play in a while, I know he is athletic and is a decent rebounder for a wing but now I have read in several places that he is a competent defender. If this is true, or not, would the Spurs be interested in him?
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Originally Posted by HoopsHype
Quite an athlete... Awesome leaping skills... Grabs a lot of rebounds thanks to that... More than decent scorer... Good defender... Not great vision of the court... Mediocre ballhandler... No jump shot... Awful free-throw shooting form.
08-20-2009
mabrignani
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
ive always liked mason. he used to be a beast on the sonics
08-20-2009
TIMMYD!
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
I like it.
08-20-2009
crc21209
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
Young and atheltic, but injury prone and not too sure about his BB IQ.
08-20-2009
Mel_13
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
Poses the same dilemma as Bowen. Must create a roster spot by cutting/trading one of Finley, Hairston, or Williams. Assuming Mason could be had for the minimum, then replacing Hairston or Williams would add very little to the payroll. Making Finley disappear will be more expensive.
08-20-2009
dbestpro
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
Too old, too short.
08-20-2009
portnoy1
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
He is 31 and can come in for 15 minutes a night and just play D on the other teams best wing. He is more athletic than Udoka and is more offensively capable and younger than Bowen. as long as his asking price is reasonable I would sign him and trade Bonner for cash, or do a sign an trade.
08-20-2009
45 bank shot
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
i thought we already had a guy named mason
08-20-2009
hater
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by 45 bank shot
i thought we already had a guy named mason
yeah but Desmond can make his own play and is probably still the better defender
08-20-2009
Muser
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
He just torched me on 2K9 ( I was the Griz).
08-20-2009
urunobili
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by hater
yeah but Desmond can make his own play and is probably still the better defender
hater bashing Money Mase? :wow
08-20-2009
SpurNation
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
George Hill is athletically a younger version of Des but a better ball handler. That plus, I don't think the Spurs are going to be needing too many defensive stoppers with the fire power they now possess and if they will need that in some games...the combination of Hill, Jefferson and Ginobili at the same time will provide a solid defensive core that can also score.
But I have always liked Des...I just don't see going after him for the talents he possesses when the Spurs will have plenty of that with who they have now.
08-20-2009
TDMVPDPOY
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
it all comes down to price
08-20-2009
Dex
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
I'd imagine having two guys with the same name on the team would get very confusing.
As if people dont stumble over Ginobili, Mahinmi, and the Haislip/Hairston combo enough.
08-20-2009
Shifty
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by Dex
I'd imagine having two guys with the same name on the team would get very confusing.
As if people dont stumble over Ginobili, Mahinmi, and the Haislip/Hairston combo enough.
That settles it then :lmao
08-20-2009
iggypop123
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
the guy just left the thunder cause he wouldnt get playing time from them. now he comes here to get minutes ahead of mason, jefferson? nope
08-20-2009
BlackBellamy
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
T.P. duet?
08-20-2009
ChumpDumper
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
I'm pretty sure Hairston or Williams could get 7 points and 4 rebounds if either played 27mpg.
08-20-2009
Rynospursfan
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
He is a terrible shooter, maybe one of the worst in the NBA.
08-20-2009
Ditty
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
i still remember when he did that 360 vs the spurs at the end of game 2 in 2002 playoffs when they were blowing us out
but ive always liked this guy hes pretty good but havent heard anything of him for tears i didnt even know he was still in the league
08-20-2009
tav1
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I'm pretty sure Hairston or Williams could get 7 points and 4 rebounds if either played 27mpg.
My thoughts exactly.
08-20-2009
ivanfromwestwood
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I'm pretty sure Hairston or Williams could get 7 points and 4 rebounds if either played 27mpg.
i agree. hairston>>>>mason. yea mason is a vet but hairston is younger and cheaper and knows our system. thanks but no thanks. with that said lets watch some of his dunks.
08-20-2009
loveforthegame
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
He's already said he wants minutes. He doesn't want to come off the bench or be a cheerleader for a team.
His age and health is a big concern.
08-20-2009
djohn14
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
Desmond > Roger all day, everyday, and this day included.
08-20-2009
FkLA
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
He's athletic as fuck, if Pop motivates him he could use his athleticism to become a great defender. Plus he could be a threat running the break with Tony...he's not a great 3-point shooter but he makes up for it in other aspects of the game.
He can dunk...we'll never sign him...lol...seriously though. I love the guy..always been a fan. Got his autograph a while back.
08-20-2009
Flux451
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
Yes, but ain't happening.
08-20-2009
Spursfan 87
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
he will a nice addition but he'll ask more than the minimum
08-20-2009
exstatic
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
He's 31, and last year, he didn't make a 3 pointer in 39 games. His lifetime 3G% is .260. This is also the point where player's athleticism, his primary attribute, starts to fall off the cliff.
08-20-2009
Old School 44
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by Dex
I'd imagine having two guys with the same name on the team would get very confusing.
As if people dont stumble over Ginobili, Mahinmi, and the Haislip/Hairston combo enough.
Yep, that's exactly why Pops Mensah-Bonsu was released. :hat
08-20-2009
Blackjack
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
I don't hate the idea of Mason being a Spur, but I don't like him as a fit as the current team is constructed.
Mason, really, at this point, is a pretty similar defender to RJ; both not quite the athletes they used to be, Mason with a more considerable drop-off, and are probably better off against the more physical type players, rather than the quick, highly-skilled offensive players. (ex. In a matchup against the Lakers, they'd probably both be better suited guarding Artest as opposed to Bryant; not completely incapable of guarding Kobe but definitely better suited for Artest.)
If the Spurs are going to bring someone in, coming to the conclusion that Hairston just isn't quite ready, I'd prefer they get someone that's capable of playing significant minutes alongside RJ. Someone with an offensive skill set that compliments RJ defensively with lateral quickness and offensively as a knock-down shooter.
Raja fits the bill, at least reputation-wise, but I question whether that's all it is..
His reputation. (At least, at this point.)
I'm not sure that guy's out there, or could be had for the package the Spurs would want to give up, so I'd much rather see the Spurs give Malik the opportunity to fill the role.
If the Spurs had even a 35/36yr. old Bowen, or the equivalent player, they could start him alongside RJ and have a similar dynamic to '03 (Jackson, Bowen and Manu off the bench) but that's pretty much a pipe dream.
The Spurs most likely have to hope they can get what they need from what's on the roster or they're going to have to find a player with enough quality to warrant the minutes Roger would most likely get; since he'd probably be the odd man out through trade or doghouse.
Or, Pop could just say screw it, throw his best offensive lineup out there and hope to out score and impose his will on the opponent. (At least his best offensive lineup wouldn't consist of Finley and Bonner this time.:hat)
08-20-2009
Biggems
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by iggypop123
the guy just left the thunder cause he wouldnt get playing time from them. now he comes here to get minutes ahead of mason, jefferson? nope
Robin is Legen....
wait for it
wait for it
DARY
08-21-2009
HarlemHeat37
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
LOL @ the people that think Desmond is better than Roger Mason..neither of them can create their own shot, so Desmond doesn't have that advantage..he's clearly a better defender, but Roger is a much, much better offensive player, and is much more offensively versatile, which speaks volumes on Desmond Mason..he's also a much better lockroom guy..
Desmond Mason isn't good..he got by on his athleticism before, but he's an irrelevant player now that he's lost it..I don't see the point of having him and cutting either Hairston or Williams..
08-21-2009
holcs50
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
that would be a great pick up-the spurs can always use athletic guys and he's just that. Too bad there's no reason he would go to SA when there's a lot of other teams that can offer him more out there...this is just another "wish" thread, not happening, or even worth discussing.
Bring him in...Nice addition and Spurs likely to spend all money they can this summer. Question is how much money left? DM definitely secure championships
08-21-2009
BG_Spurs_Fan
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
I'd much rather we keep Hairston and/or Williams instead of bringing a guy who so obviously doesn't fit.
08-21-2009
eisfeld
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
Actually, I wouldn't mind signing him. As the Spurs have no roster spot, it won't happen. And I'd only trade away Bonner in order to get him.
08-21-2009
crc21209
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by djohn14
Desmond > Roger all day, everyday, and this day included.
Desmond Mason is injury prone and isnt nowhere near as clutch as Roger is. Roger > Desmond ALL DAY EVERY DAY!
08-21-2009
Sdayi135
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by djohn14
Desmond > Roger all day, everyday, and this day included.
Roger > Desmond any day of the week and twice on Sunday
08-21-2009
Sdayi135
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by eisfeld
Actually, I wouldn't mind signing him. As the Spurs have no roster spot, it won't happen. And I'd only trade away Bonner in order to get him.
And keep Finley's sorry, useless butt?
08-21-2009
BG_Spurs_Fan
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by Sdayi135
And keep Finley's sorry, useless butt?
They'd have to unless you can donate a few million.
08-21-2009
TJastal
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
This thread looks damn familiar. I see a few of these every year on this board it seems from a certain group of spurs fans. They always find the the biggest washed up scrubs (always some 30+ african for some reason) that has already played on at least 4 different teams in their career and proceed to pine away for the spurs to sign said scrub.
Never mind the spurs don't really need another defensive athletic wing with two guys that already fit that bill (Richard Jefferson and Malik Hairston.)
Kind of reminds me of the spur fan last year that wanted to sign Bonzi Wells.
:lol
08-21-2009
Chieflion
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
Does not fit. We need a good shooter to fit in the good defender description. Clearly this guy does not have range.
08-21-2009
Riverwalkman
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
Does anyone think there are already too many veterans in the roster? We need some youngs to keep a competitive atmosphere. Hairston is the right person with nice summer performance and a minimum contract. No reason to waive him before the season starts.
08-21-2009
dbestpro
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
It seems like every thread finds its way back to trade Bonner.
Parker hurt = trade Bonner
should Pop have a beard? = trade Bonner
Manu says anything in Spanish = trade Bonner
08-21-2009
Shifty
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by TJastal
This thread looks damn familiar. I see a few of these every year on this board it seems from a certain group of spurs fans.
Not me :rolleyes I started posting about a month ago.
I'm not urging the Spurs to sign him, this post is to see what we think of him and if it fits our team as the wing defender a lot of people have asked for. As many have said he might be OK to do that but the rest of his game is not exactly what we look for (not a shooter). Some say he is obviously not coming since he doesn't fit exactly what we need. Well, very few players fit exactly and even fewer are available. Considering signing a free agent that plays a position you have some need for is not "not even worth discussing" in a freaking DISCUSSION forum?!
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Originally Posted by TJastal
They always find the the biggest washed up scrubs (always some 30+ african for some reason) that has already played on at least 4 different teams in their career and proceed to pine away for the spurs to sign said scrub.
As many of the veteran role players that have come to help the Spurs (and other teams) win a championship?
Bowen
Barry
Finley
Elie
Kerr
Horry
....
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Originally Posted by TJastal
Never mind the spurs don't really need another defensive athletic wing with two guys that already fit that bill (Richard Jefferson and Malik Hairston.)
I'm sorry but last I checked Malik Hairston was still a someone trying to get into the league. Don't get me wrong, I like his game but considering him as a lock for a rotation player on a small market team that is going all-in without even considering other options is being too optimistic of his immediate future.
08-21-2009
HarlemHeat37
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
Desmond Mason made a career ENTIRELY based on his athleticism..now that he has injuries and his athleticism has clearly heavily declined, he's going to be a useless player in the NBA..
Hairston having more athleticism makes him a better player, just like that..simply for the fact that Mason's game is completely based on athleticism..
08-21-2009
Darkwaters
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by Rynospursfan
He is a terrible shooter, one of the worst in the NBA.
Fixed.
I like Mason a lot, don't get me wrong. I actually have a Hornets Mason Bobble Head in my office at home that I got at a game. But the guy is one of the worst shooters I've ever seen. I really don't see a role for him on this team.
08-21-2009
TimDunkem
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by Shifty
Not me :rolleyes I started posting about a month ago.
I'm not urging the Spurs to sign him, this post is to see what we think of him and if it fits our team as the wing defender a lot of people have asked for. As many have said he might be OK to do that but the rest of his game is not exactly what we look for (not a shooter). Some say he is obviously not coming since he doesn't fit exactly what we need. Well, very few players fit exactly and even fewer are available. Considering signing a free agent that plays a position you have some need for is not "not even worth discussing" in a freaking DISCUSSION forum?!
lol Exactly. I'm guessing a lot of people around here would rather see "Scrubs for Capt. Jack" threads, or updates on who the ROCKETS have signed.
Nine-year veteran Desmond Mason is expected to be signed to a one-year deal for the league minimum of $1.18 million today, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.
09-17-2009
Bruno
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
The next step for Kings is to trade Nocioni.
09-17-2009
EricB
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
That would work out way too well :lol
We are down an Argentinian and it would be nice to to push it back to two :)
09-17-2009
loveforthegame
Re: Desmond Mason. A good fit?
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Originally Posted by Bruno
The next step for Kings is to trade Nocioni.
I'll be surprised if they trade him before the deadline. He's already a favorite and the staff is high on him. I think Donte Green is on the way out though.