The Spurs need to sign Bruce Bowen ASAP.
He would be a huge upgrade over Dan Hughes. Hughes has a great basketball mind, but he is boring as hell. So when Elliott takes his games off, Bruce can step right in.
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The Spurs need to sign Bruce Bowen ASAP.
He would be a huge upgrade over Dan Hughes. Hughes has a great basketball mind, but he is boring as hell. So when Elliott takes his games off, Bruce can step right in.
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Originally Posted by Va Spur
Sense is not a strong point outside of comments by about 50 posters here, many of whom are seemingly on hiatus between seasons. But that's part of what makes this a fun and vibrant place! :lol :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
PS There is one caveat to my comments - if Portland will give us Rudy Fernandez for anyone outside of the Big 3, I'm buying. But they aren't, so I'm only dreaming. Nice to dream though, Ex. :tu
Nah, Rudy Fernandez would be playing in the same role as Mason is, therefore, it would be the same situation.
Rudy Fernandez could be our starting shooting guard for the next 5-7 years, and (given opportunity to play enough) will end up an impact player in the NBA, so I think you missed my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chieflion
The real question is would I trade Manu for Rudy, and I really can't answer that without seeing Manu play next season, and really I hate to even consider it... which I won't any further, because it's not realistic, so why torture oneself about it? ;)
I like the spurs moves. But admit it, the big man or Center problem has not been addressed. Mcdyess 6-9/10 - Blair 6-7 and ratliff and old 6-10 that cant give you 30minutes next to tim.
Eh, if Ian's healthy it could be addressed. He's definitely a question mark but I'm willing to wait and see. There is plenty of time for another trade if it comes to that.
Lakers - Bynum/Gasol 2 - Magic Howard 3 - Cavaliers Shaq/Ilgauskas 4 - Celtics Garnett/Wallace. If you really wanna compete with the good teams you need 2 big men. I'm sick of this small center garbage. We got away with it for 3-4 years. Thats why i was surprised that the spurs traded for and are willing to pay $14Million to RJ to join a perimeter attack thats above decent in Parker/Ginobili. Then Mcdyess is a nice addition to your bench or even a starter only if you have another LEGIT 7fter on the Roster. If the spurs could've have done the same deal with the Bucks and included portland in that trade ( who also wanted RJ ) then the spurs would've been set. You send all the same players from the spurs to the Bucks, and instead of us getting RJ the Blazers get him and send us Outlaw/Prizbilla. The spurs also save money ( $4million ). In Outlaw you have a 6-9 SF who can shoot/drive/post up and atlhetic enough to be a great wing defender in the spurs system. A solid 4th option or 3rd if Ginobili gets hurt, and he is 24. In Prizbilla you get Rebounding /Shot Blocking and someone who can Dunk who is 7ft tall. Now you have an anchor for your defense. - DOWNSIDE Pryzbilla can really shoot or post, offensively he is a liability. However with him in the paint there is a much higher chance for offensive rebounds and put-backs. Outlaw is kinda thin so he can be posted up by bigger SF, However he has the length to bother their shot and has Pryzbilla and Duncan guarding the paint. If Manu goes down you have a legit scorer, who can create his own shot, and gives you points inside on the block and outside with his pull up J. If Duncan goes down you have a big man who will grab you 15rbs/3blks an can play 40 minutes if nessecary along with mcdyess who would be the big man to score in duncan's absence.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Parker 20pts 8ast / Hill - defense
Mason Jr. 9pts / Manu 15pts
Outlaw 13pts blk stl / Random guy ( finley / Haislip / Hairston )
Duncan 18pts 10rbds / Blair - rebounding
Pryzbilla 6pts 8rbs 2blks / Mcdyess - jumpshot/rebounding
I share your concerns about not having another legit 7' on the team defensively, portnoy1. But, as fun as it is to speculate and find something to pass the time during the offseason, Pritchard isn't going to do a trade that is even equitable and the Spurs' front office aren't morons. They're not looking to get `had'.
The Spurs have had just about as fine a summer possible and another move, unless it's an absolute no-brainer, just isn't going to happen until the trade deadline; if even then.
They've got some decent expirings that could come in handy as teams begin to fall off the pace and look to make room for '10 and a possible reload. Waiting until that time, should leave a far better selection of talent to wade through than exists currently.
I love the moves the Spurs have made on the whole, even if I see the possibility of a defensive 5 or lock-down wing needing to be added, but it's still only a possibility at this point.
Yeah, the perfect scenario would be to know that you've got every basis covered, personnel-wise, going into camp. Your team would grow and gel together from day 1 and there'd be no rushed indoctrination into the Spurs way or system mid-season.
But there are no perfect scenarios.
So the Spurs will see what they've got; lets not forget that this team has a growth potential not seen since the '03 and '04 years. Thus, all that the Spurs and their fans want for now, could very well be filled by youth yet to prove itself.
I'm not going to hate on those who like to play GM during the offseason and look to fill the time until the season starts. It's entertaining if nothing else. I just don't see the players being mentioned as being no-brainers or a crop of talent that suggests that the best idea would be to make a trade now.
The Spurs still don't know completely what they've got and the options would seem to be more, and of a higher quality, around the trade deadline if they deemed a move necessary..
Defense before offense though. What killed us Josh Howard having a good series or Barea getting in the paint/ Dampier getting offensive rebounds?
Fernandez is going to BE Ginobili some day, if given the chance. He's younger and has a MUCH higher ceiling than Roger Mason. He also attacks the rim, something Mason either can't or won't do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chieflion
Mason would likely go out in any prospective trade, anyway.
Do you (portnoy1) know what kind of impact RJ, Hairston and Hill are going to have defensively this year or how well 'Dyess, Mahinmi, Blair and Ratliff will be on that end?
The answer's, no.
It's a question and possibility of something that might need to be addressed, but like I said before, it's only a possibility at this point.
The Spurs still managed to stay among the top 5 in defense last year with some rather underwhelming personnel on that end, so it's not likely the players added won't improve in that area.
Just think back to the '08 loss to the Lakers.
Yeah, Manu's injury really cost the Spurs another trip to the finals, but the defense didn't fail them, their offense did.
If the Spurs can make some solid strides on the defensive-end from last year and add a more potent, efficient offense on top of that that, they should be in great position to challenge for the title yet again.
Of course, all of this is contingent on the health of Tim and Manu, which isn't something that can be scoffed at anymore. But what team's going to win a championship if their best, or two of their top three, players aren't healthy? -- That was rhetorical..--;)