Harvey: Time For A Change Was 20 Years Ago

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Originally Posted by 50Bestspurever

Yeah man, D. Anderson was pretty fucking awesome when he played with us. I honestly thought he was the answer. Still remember teams had a tough time matching up with us when we had him. Then J Howard and his fucking foul ending all dreams that year. D. Anderson had million dollar talent but unfortunately a ten cent brain. Still remember his interviews with KSAT during his contract negation’s. I don’t think the dude actually understood what the Spurs were offering him and what he could get from opposing teams.

And as far as rocket rod, he was the first true point guard we had in a long while, until Porter got here but then again Porter was to late in his game.

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AHHHHHHH Terry Porter he was an offensive NIGHTMARE!!!!! WAY past his prime....

After Brown left...the Spurs didn't play D. They were a run and gun team until Pop came back. And though exciting at times to watch...if any opposing team had the ability to play D...the Spurs were defeated. Strickland, D. Anderson were about Strickland and D. Anderson. Never about team. Brown was trying to be cohearsed into a more offensively minded team by Bass and ownership. They got their wish and look what happened until Holt and Pop came along.

It wasn't until Pop took control that he weeded out the me sayers and started a dynasty of team oriented players and a system that finally brought about 4 championships.

IMHO...I don't think it would have mattered after 1989 up to the point when Pop took over who was playing on the team...it never would have gotten past the likes of Houston or Chicago anyway.

Bob Bass never ALLOWED for team chemistry. He was the epitome of a GM who did trades to do trades.

The all time worst move for Robinson though was when McCombs shot down the Barkley trade.

:pctoss

Sigh....

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Originally Posted by 50Bestspurever

Yeah man, D. Anderson was pretty fucking awesome when he played with us. I honestly thought he was the answer. Still remember teams had a tough time matching up with us when we had him. Then J Howard and his fucking foul ending all dreams that year. D. Anderson had million dollar talent but unfortunately a ten cent brain. Still remember his interviews with KSAT during his contract negation’s. I don’t think the dude actually understood what the Spurs were offering him and what he could get from opposing teams.

And as far as rocket rod, he was the first true point guard we had in a long while, until Porter got here but then again Porter was to late in his game.

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D. Anderson seemed "awesome" only because the Spurs had been so mediocre at shooting guard for so long. That was the only downside of the trades Robinson's rookie year; Alvin Robertson, while a rather despicable human being, was nevertheless an All-Star. His successors were:
1) Willie Anderson -- a good athlete/slasher, but a lousy outside shooter and had the basketball IQ of shrimp larvae.
2) Vinnie Del Negro -- a decent mid-range shooter and creator of the patented "hair fake," but combined the athleticism of Kurt Thomas with the defense of Steve Nash.
3) Mario Elie -- a gritty defender out of whom the Spurs got one good year before age caught up with him.
However, compared to Manu Ginobili, D. Anderson is nothing.

And it might be more accurate to say that Strickland was the last true point guard the Spurs had for a while. Johnny Dawkins was a very good player, as certainly was Johnny Moore before him. It was what came after Strickland -- the Negele Knights, the Vinny Del Negros, the early iterations of Avery Johnson before he got his act together -- that was so bad.

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Originally Posted by EricB

Bob Bass never ALLOWED for team chemistry. He was the epitome of a GM who did trades to do trades.

The all time worst move for Robinson though was when McCombs shot down the Barkley trade.

:pctoss

Sigh....

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That what I meant BB was a lousy FO Manager!!!!!

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Originally Posted by SpurNation

After Brown left...the Spurs didn't play D. They were a run and gun team until Pop came back. And though exciting at times to watch...if any opposing team had the ability to play D...the Spurs were defeated. Strickland, D. Anderson were about Strickland and D. Anderson. Never about team. Brown was trying to be cohearsed into a more offensively minded team by Bass and ownership. They got their wish and look what happened until Holt and Pop came along.

It wasn't until Pop took control that he weeded out the me sayers and started a dynasty of team oriented players and a system that finally brought about 4 championships.

IMHO...I don't think it would have mattered after 1989 up to the point when Pop took over who was playing on the team...it never would have gotten past the likes of Houston or Chicago anyway.

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I disagree...That 1990 team had talent if it was intact we would have been a Bad ass team!!! In 1991...injuries, bad trades for lousy as veterans and egos....killed that team, which is why GS kicked our butts in the 1st round.

"We want it Now!!!!" T-Shirts.....PPPPcccccssssssshhhhhh PLEASE!

Buck Harvey sucks!

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Originally Posted by VivaPopovich

20 years ago they weren't playing SF's like Finley and Bonner at PF and Center

and i hope they never will again.

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didn't win a title either

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Originally Posted by Gervin44Silas13

NO I do blame Bass...he was NBA excet. of the year in 1990, I mean we had youth and was so close to depth

90 Team

Brick (was not resigned gone in 91)
David

Willie (hurt in 91)

T.C.

Sean

Rod Strick. (I think he started the season Injured '91)

Wingate (Acussed of Rape let him go, didn't play much...THIS WAS BIG NEWS ALL SUMMER....they called him David Rapegate....accquitted)

Reggie Willams (Minutes depleted)



In 1991 we get REALLY BAD SCRUBS!!!!!

Shitzus 42 games dud
Pressey 70 games old fart
Ohh yeah David Greenwood ohhhhh 63 games Old fart hurt all year
Sidney Green 66 games had bone Spurs...

Now you gotta admit that Bass screwed up BAD!!!...And I'm not talking about Peter Holt. Bass made so many bonehead choices after the 1990 season. It's a miracle our team didn't imploded, We sucked bad in the postseason in 1991 and 1992. 1993 was a turning point we got out of the 1st Round we beat the defending West Champs that year (Portland).

Retooled a bit in 1994 and in 1995 we had a great team. By this time Bass was out!!! Shame we couldn't finish Houston....but thank Dennis Rodman for blowing plays on defense...he costed us that title.

The 1990's could have been a great Spurs-Bulls Rivary

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I love discussing the 1990's Spurs teams. I wish I followed them closely back then, but I do remember bits and pieces from that early 90's era.

According to treasure trove basketball-reference.com, we had the Strickland/W. Anderson/Elliott/Cummings/DRob lineup for 3 seasons - 1990 until 1992.

We lost to the eventual conference champs Portland in 1990 as the columnist mentioned, followed by a 3-1 lost to the RUN TMC Golden State crew in the first round in 1991 (we had homecourt btw). As Gervin44Silas13 said must have been the weak depth to blame for the regression.

Now in 1992 the postseason boxscores show DRob and WAnderson DNP, so that explains the first round sweep, and why they won only 47 games in the regular season.

The 1993 team looked alot weaker - how the hell did we get Jerry Tarkanian!?! as our coach anyway..wow. I do remember the last game of that season with Barkley closing down HemisFair on a jumper.

1994 team wins 55 games, Rodman averages 17 boards pg! but ultimately a 3-1 loss to Utah (DROb 2-14 fg in game 2..damn).

Now I've got to say the 1995 and 1996 teams SHOULD have won the conference...62 wins in '95, and a 17 game win streak and 59 wins during the '96 run, but again meltdowns in May.

1997 Admiral plays a total of 6 games, Sean 39, and some guy named Pop takes over a thoroughly defeated team.

And then some other stuff happens next...

All said I do miss those 90's squads...so much potential.

Here was the ages of the starting five from 1990 that took PDX to game 7:

23 Strickland
23 Anderson
22 Elliott
29 Cummings
24 Robinson

If only Pop were running things back then:bang

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Originally Posted by Gervin44Silas13

I disagree...That 1990 team had talent if it was intact we would have been a Bad ass team!!! In 1991...injuries, bad trades for lousy as veterans and egos....killed that team, which is why GS kicked our butts in the 1st round.

"We want it Now!!!!" T-Shirts.....PPPPcccccssssssshhhhhh PLEASE!

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LOL I still got my fucking "we want it now T-Shit I mean T shirt" Old David greenwood, his tshirt making abaility was about the only thing he brought to the table. Love all the arguments about the early 90's team, (who I thought were some tough [email protected]@kers.) Insert Pop for Boner and who knows? Oh hell let me answer that, the result is, :lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

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Originally Posted by 50Bestspurever

LOL I still got my fucking "we want it now T-Shit I mean T shirt" Old David greenwood, his tshirt making abaility was about the only thing he brought to the table. Love all the arguments about the early 90's team, (who I thought were some tough [email protected]@kers.) Insert Pop for Boner and who knows? Oh hell let me answer that, the result is, :lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

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Oh man you got to burn that shirt after the 1st round sweep....Nobody was wearing that MF'n tee in San Antonio after that 1st Round debacle!!!!