Jax wants out..

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Originally Posted by greensborohill

Do you have a 4 million dollar contract that can be boughtout for 1 million dollars?


They're looking for cap relief.

Dallas has

Greg Buckner 4.5 mill contract boughtout at 1 mill, Williams 2 million dollar expiring, & Gooden who has a 4.5 million dollar contract that can be boughtout at 1.9 million. Nelson is looking for cap relief & nothing more. So what can the Spurs offer in that vein.

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Gooden can't be traded until Dec. 15.

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Originally Posted by rayray2k8

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Originally Posted by exstatic

Jackson thread!!

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Originally Posted by Muser

Could you imagine people not making shit loads of threads about ex spurs players who want to be traded?

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Originally Posted by jaffies

Could you imagine putting this in one of the other SJax threads.

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Originally Posted by Strike

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Originally Posted by completely deck

this thread is bad and you should feel bad

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This is what comes of being an attention whore on ST.

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

Gooden can't be traded until Dec. 15.

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Owned.

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Originally Posted by greensborohill

Do you have a 4 million dollar contract that can be boughtout for 1 million dollars?


They're looking for cap relief.

Dallas has

Greg Buckner 4.5 mill contract boughtout at 1 mill, Williams 2 million dollar expiring, & Gooden who has a 4.5 million dollar contract that can be boughtout at 1.9 million. Nelson is looking for cap relief & nothing more. So what can the Spurs offer in that vein.

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A package of Bonner, Finley, and Mason > Buckner, Williams, Gooden, Barea or anyone else. Bonner and Mason would thrive in Nellie's system, and well Fin knows him as well back from his Dallas days. Bonner and Mason's contracts are also expiring contracts.

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

Gooden can't be traded until Dec. 15.

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Yeh i did know that.

Buck, Williams, & Barea gets it done though. Like I said, just a matter of whether Dallas actually likes Jackson. And Don Nelson will be calling to discuss a possible deal with Dallas soon.

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Originally Posted by crc21209

A package of Bonner, Finley, and Mason > Buckner, Williams, Gooden, Barea or anyone else. Bonner and Mason would thrive in Nellie's system, and well Fin knows him as well back from his Dallas days. Bonner and Mason's contracts are also expiring contracts.

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Not if cap relief is what is wanted, which is what it seems that they do want. Jax for Buckner, Wiliams, & Barea nets the Barea and gets the an instant 3 million dollar savings in Buckner. That's a done deal IMO.

Kidd
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Terry & Josh

If Stephen Jax comes to the Spurs???

:lobt2: anybodyy?>?? :king

I dont think mason should be traded. Bonner Finley Williams +1st rounder (if thats possible) would work best.

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Originally Posted by greensborohill

Yeh i did know that.

Buck, Williams, & Barea gets it done though. Like I said, just a matter of whether Dallas actually likes Jackson. And Don Nelson will be calling to discuss a possible deal with Dallas soon.

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Nellie and Pop's relationship >>>>>> Nellie and Cuban's relationship. I think the last thing he wants to do is help that douche out.

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Originally Posted by ajballer4

I dont think mason should be traded. Bonner Finley Williams +1st rounder (if thats possible) would work best.

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Why the hell would the Warriors do that?

You give up to get.

Besides that.

Jackson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mason

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Jackson thread!!

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Originally Posted by Muser

Could you imagine people not making shit loads of threads about ex spurs players who want to be traded?

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Originally Posted by jaffies

Could you imagine putting this in one of the other SJax threads.

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Originally Posted by Strike

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Originally Posted by completely deck

this thread is bad and you should feel bad

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This is what comes of being an attention whore on ST.

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Originally Posted by Clutch City 01

If Stephen Jax comes to the Spurs???

:lobt2: anybodyy?>?? :king

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I'd start yet another thread about it.

we definitely needed another thread on this topic. Endlessly fascinating.

If Spurs want to do a trade for SJax (I don't think it's the case), their best interest is to send as much salary as possible to lower their luxury tax hit.

Mason + Finley + Bonner for SJax would be the best trade possible for Spurs. If Spurs want to add some vet depth after that, there is a certain spa owner available...

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Originally Posted by Bruno

If Spurs want to do a trade for SJax (I don't think it's the case), their best interest is to send as much salary as possible to lower their luxury tax hit.

Mason + Finley + Bonner for SJax would be the best trade possible for Spurs. If Spurs want to add some vet depth after that, there is a certain spa owner available...

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Best case scenario for me..

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Originally Posted by crc21209

Nellie and Pop's relationship >>>>>> Nellie and Cuban's relationship. I think the last thing he wants to do is help that douche out.

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I guess you didn't hear when I just said that Nellie is already in talks with the Mavs.

In any case, we shall see.

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

When have the warriors said they want cap relief? They can still put together a decent team. Nelly is not going to give Jackson away.

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Go to my link. DB.com broke the story b4 the national media did. They want Bucks contract. Is it that inconcievable? You guys got RJ for nothing.

I think you have to at least contact GS and make the offer - Mason,Finley,Bonner (+ draft pick if necessary) - while SJAX may have some down side he not Ron Artest - he knows what would be expected from him in SA and he didn't take SA out of list of teams he would want to play for which makes me think he is ready to accept whatever role Pop has for him and his game is better than 2003 - his assit to TO ratio for each of the last 4 years has been better than Manu's and is perfectly acceptable for a player who has the ball alot Here are reasons to do trade -

1.In Spurs system he would probably have ball less thus less TOS - also last year with injuries he played alot of point forward and had career high 6.5 assist per game (TOs was career high, but bottom line he has been a 2 to 1 ratio guy for the last 4-5 years)

2. This trade makes you longer, more athletic, more versatile on the wing, while freeing up salary and roster space for this year if you trade all three expiring contracts

3.Also note that GS has plenty uf redundancy at 2-3 spots and that Randolph, Morrow, and Azabuike are in last year of deals and Curry's rookie contract will be up before SJAX comes off books so GS has motivation for moving SJAX (although they would rather move Magggette, but that is much tougher to do)
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The only reasons to not pull the trigger:

1. The main reason would be the $$ committment and if Manu has good year and stays healthy could you resign him - only Holt can really answer how long the Spurs are willing to pay luxury tax.

2. Not as big of risk as I think some people make it out to be would be SJAX attitude, chemistry, and off court behavior.

I think we need to add draft picks or player rights, probably Tiagos.

Jack missed his chance. Spurs don't need him.

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Originally Posted by JonNOKC

I think you have to at least contact GS and make the offer - Mason,Finley,Bonner (+ draft pick if necessary) - while SJAX may have some down side he not Ron Artest - he knows what would be expected from him in SA and he didn't take SA out of list of teams he would want to play for which makes me think he is ready to accept whatever role Pop has for him and his game is better than 2003 - his assit to TO ratio for each of the last 4 years has been better than Manu's and is perfectly acceptable for a player who has the ball alot Here are reasons to do trade -

1.In Spurs system he would probably have ball less thus less TOS - also last year with injuries he played alot of point forward and had career high 6.5 assist per game (TOs was career high, but bottom line he has been a 2 to 1 ratio guy for the last 4-5 years)

2. This trade makes you longer, more athletic, more versatile on the wing, while freeing up salary and roster space for this year if you trade all three expiring contracts

3.Also note that GS has plenty uf redundancy at 2-3 spots and that Randolph, Morrow, and Azabuike are in last year of deals and Curry's rookie contract will be up before SJAX comes off books so GS has motivation for moving SJAX (although they would rather move Magggette, but that is much tougher to do)
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The only reasons to not pull the trigger:

1. The main reason would be the $$ committment and if Manu has good year and stays healthy could you resign him - only Holt can really answer how long the Spurs are willing to pay luxury tax.

2. Not as big of risk as I think some people make it out to be would be SJAX attitude, chemistry, and off court behavior.

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-Manu's assist to TO ratio has been better than Jackson's every year that Ginobili has been in the NBA.

-Jackson's assist to TO ratio has been 1.47 for the last 4 years.

-roster spaces will indeed be opened by a three for one trade. How much money, if any, is saved will depend on what is done to fill those spots. If both are filled by players making the vet min, savings in salary plus lux tax for this year will be be less than 500K.