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Sequ Rumor: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.
Why? Because they have the fucking mojo and the trade assets to get it done. Fuck Cuban. Fuck the Rockets. Fuck the Cavs.
Book it.
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Good, cause the spurs haven't done enough yet. This might finally get them in the playoffs.
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Even though I think there is .009 chance of hit happening, I wonder what we could offer. Maybe Finley and Mason...but it's not going to happen.
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I will bone tpark again if they get this mofo!
Go Spurs Go!
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Duncan the G.O.A.T.
seriously, fuck you for making me think it was actually legit news
Sequ knows...
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Originally Posted by
spursfan1000
Even though I think there is .009 chance of hit happening, I wonder what we could offer. Maybe Finley and Mason...but it's not going to happen.
You would be surprised.....
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God, could you imagine this team with Jack back at the 2 and Manu off the bench again? Jackson got so many easy layups off little curls in the lane when playing the 2 here in 03. I know it's a pipe dream, but dude is easily one of my 10 favorite Spurs ever and I can dream. :lol
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Wow..that would be exciting to see Jack in the line-up again. He has a few more years of maturity and basketball knowledge..and he's not afraid to Jack-it up!
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Originally Posted by
Shastafarian
WTF is that? Looks like a drink for Ducks or something..
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Re: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.
Aside from his crappy contract, it would be awesome. It would afford us great flexibility, especially if we traded Bonner + Finley or whatever to get him. So many great lineups.
I could see him starting at the two, or coming off the bench behind Jefferson as the three.
Starting:
C - McDyess
PF - Duncan
SF - Jefferson
SG - Jackson
PG - Parker
Nice defensive squad right there. And hell even in the 2nd squad he looks nice if Mason starts.
C - Mahimni
PF - Blair
SF - Jackson
SG - Ginobili
PG - Hill
Looks pretty good either way. That 2nd unit could compete with some starters. Even in a smallball lineup he works.
C - Duncan
PF - Jackson
SF - Jefferson
SG - Ginobili
PG - Parker
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I just tried Bonner, Finley and Williams for Jax and it works, but the problem is I doubt GS would go near that - they'd want something like Bonner, Mason, Hill or Bonner, Mason, Blair, and I'm not sure about giving up Hill or Blair who I think are key to the team's plans.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
I'd love to see Jax a Spur again, but I have a terrible feeling he'll go to the Mavs, maybe for Howard (haven't the Mavs been trying to offload him for a while?). :depressed
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I'd love to have Jack back but that contract not so much.
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
God, could you imagine this team with Jack back at the 2 and Manu off the bench again? Jackson got so many easy layups off little curls in the lane when playing the 2 here in 03. I know it's a pipe dream, but dude is easily one of my 10 favorite Spurs ever and I can dream. :lol
All we would need to do after that is find a way to get Hedo back next year :rollin
j/k - bring Jack HOME. forget Bruce
only thing I wouldn't like besides the contract is the 2.3 dribble off the foot/step out of bounds per game average he had here
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Re: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.
The contract ain't so bad. i would like to have him for finley and mason. And i am sure manu will be taking less money next year.
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Nelson ain't tradin shit to cuban
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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=npj8sf
anyone willing to give up mason for jackson?
bonner + mason for jackson works
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Re: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.
Thimble shots of Crown....
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siraulo23
Mason for Jackson is a no-brainer.
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im not gonna hold my breath.
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IMHO Jackson is over-rated by many Spurstalk members. He is capable of putting up points, but is ineffecient (his FG% from the past two years are .405 and .414, .418 for his career). His defense is below average and so is his decision making. He doesn't always come off as a team first guy either. I would rather see Mason and some of the younger players get playing time.
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Originally Posted by
RuffnReadyOzStyle
I just tried Bonner, Finley and Williams for Jax and it works, but the problem is I doubt GS would go near that - they'd want something like Bonner, Mason, Hill or Bonner, Mason, Blair, and I'm not sure about giving up Hill or Blair who I think are key to the team's plans.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
I'd love to see Jax a Spur again, but I have a terrible feeling he'll go to the Mavs, maybe for Howard (haven't the Mavs been trying to offload him for a while?). :depressed
Just because it works on the espn trade machine, doesn't mean that it will work in real life?..Golden State is not obligated to trade him anyways..Hell if they wanted to they could make his life a living hell for the next 4 years...Plus if we did get him we would be way more over the luxury tax than we are now...Not saying that I wouldn't want him back in the black and silver..Because it would be awesome!!..But it is far from happening in my opinion?...:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2::flag::f lag:
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Overrated? no, overpaid? yes.
We are trying to win now, Mason is a good spot shooter, he cant do nothing else. Sjax is playoff proven, he can play defense, and he is a playmaker, is he worth 8M a year probably not, but I want him on my team if i want to win now.
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I'd like to see this get done, get that championship and repeat with all the talent we have. It just seems like too much of a good thing, prolly won't happen.
But yea, I could see the Mavs getting him even with all the drama between Cuban/Nelson. Seems like a move the Mavs would make to stay relevant this season.
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Sequ doesn't know. He's just Jacked up.
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Re: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.
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Originally Posted by
StoneCutter
IMHO Jackson is over-rated by many Spurstalk members. He is capable of putting up points, but is ineffecient (his FG% from the past two years are .405 and .414, .418 for his career). His defense is below average and so is his decision making. He doesn't always come off as a team first guy either. I would rather see Mason and some of the younger players get playing time.
Um, you don't go get Jackson for his regular season shooting percentage.
You go get him for being an assassin in the postseason.
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um, you don't go get jackson for his regular season shooting percentage.
You go get him for being an assassin in the postseason.
+1
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Originally Posted by
Leetonidas
C - McDyess
PF - Duncan
SF - Jefferson
SG - Jackson
PG - Parker
Nice defensive squad right there. And hell even in the 2nd squad he looks nice if Mason starts.
C - Mahimni
PF - Blair
SF - Jackson
SG - Ginobili
PG - Hill
Looks pretty good either way. That 2nd unit could compete with some starters. Even in a smallball lineup he works.
C - Duncan
PF - Jackson
SF - Jefferson
SG - Ginobili
PG - Parker
:meeting:
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Originally Posted by
Aggie Hoopsfan
Um, you don't go get Jackson for his regular season shooting percentage.
You go get him for being an assassin in the postseason.
In his last playoff stint he shot 38%. He had 40 assists an 41 turnovers.
One of the reasons I became a Spurs fan is because they put an emphasis on high character guys. Stephen Jackson doesn't fit that mold for me. Kobe is the games ultimate assassin. If the Spurs had Kobe they would be probably be favored to win a championship. I wouldn't be a fan though. Again...just my humble opinion. Spurs don't need Jackson and his contract.
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Originally Posted by
StoneCutter
In his last playoff stint he shot 38%. He had 40 assists an 41 turnovers.
One of the reasons I became a Spurs fan is because they put an emphasis on high character guys. Stephen Jackson doesn't fit that mold for me. Kobe is the games ultimate assassin. If the Spurs had Kobe they would be probably be favored to win a championship. I wouldn't be a fan though. Again...just my humble opinion. Spurs don't need Jackson and his contract.
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The 03 Spurs were arguably the best spur team ever (talent wise), and Jack arguably was the 2nd best player of that team, without him that year, we probably would had not gotten past the first round. They guy was key in every series, especially in the games the other team decided to double Timmeh. And that was in 03, right now he is more of a complete player and more mature..
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The fuck is up with people saying they dont like Jax's contract? He's a damn 20 ppg scorer that bring good defense, he delivers in the postseason and already knows the system. $8 mill is a great value for a player like him, Anderson mothafucking Varejao got like a $9 mill per year deal so if anything Jax is underpaid. If the Warriors bite on a Finley/Bonner & Mason offer I'd do it in a heartbeat. I doubt it would happen but I'd be ecstatic if it did.
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Spursfan 87
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The 03 Spurs were arguably the best spur team ever (talent wise), and Jack arguably was the 2nd best player of that team, without him that year, we probably would had not gotten past the first round. They guy was key in every series, especially in the games the other team decided to double Timmeh. And that was in 03, right now he is more of a complete player and more mature..
The best spur team ever? Far from, that was our weakest championship team if u ask me. Sure there were some big names in there aside from Duncan (Parker, Manu, D-Rob, S-Jax) but dont forget that D-Rob was a shade of himself, Manu was an erratic out of control rookie, Parker was inconsistant as fuck and Speedy had to come in and bail him out many times, and S-Jax was a nobody up until that year and still undeveloped. Duncan almost singlehandedly carried the Spurs to a title that year.
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siraulo23
You know what... i think i would do that, i love mason, but if we got jackson, mason would sit on the bench all year anyways.. there are not enough minutes to go around. i would include mason for that reason alone.
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Re: Sequ Rumor: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.
Is it bowling season yet?
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i can actually see nelson trading with us b4 talkin to the mavs if the mavs willing to trade howard....
then again didnt cuban had a problem with nelson and his contract over coachin and shit last season?
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Re: Sequ Rumor: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.
Segu's parents should have been sterilized.
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My crystal ball said it won't happen..
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[quote=FkLA;3660292]The fuck is up with people saying they dont like Jax's contract? He's a damn 20 ppg scorer that bring good defense, he delivers in the postseason and already knows the system. $8 mill is a great value for a player like him, Anderson mothafucking Varejao got like a $9 mill per year deal so if anything Jax is underpaid. If the Warriors bite on a Finley/Bonner & Mason offer I'd do it in a heartbeat. I doubt it would happen but I'd be ecstatic if it did.
[quote=FkLA;3660292]
+1
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Originally Posted by
Stringer_Bell
I'd like to see this get done, get that championship and repeat with all the talent we have. It just seems like too much of a good thing, prolly won't happen.
But yea, I could see the Mavs getting him even with all the drama between Cuban/Nelson. Seems like a move the Mavs would make to stay relevant this season.
The Mavs are already overloaded at the 2/3. Unless they are trading away one of the peices they just picked up that would be the last thing they need. If they did trade away Marion or Howard I don't know if he makes them much better.
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Re: Sequ Rumor: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.
SJax is low-efficiency (34% 3G, would be the worst 3G shooter in the swingman rotation), a high-volume chucker, a non-rebounder (at 6'8" gets less than 1 RB more than Tony), and of limited bball IQ.
That's a lot of negatives to carry for maybe a couple of big shot 3Gs.
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Originally Posted by
boutons_deux
SJax is low-efficiency (34% 3G, would be the worst 3G shooter in the swingman rotation), a high-volume chucker, a non-rebounder (at 6'8" gets less than 1 RB more than Tony), and of limited bball IQ.
That's a lot of negatives to carry for maybe a couple of big shot 3Gs.
Playing in Golden State as the main man would do that to anyone.
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SequSpur
Nelson ain't tradin shit to cuban
Good point.
I don't really care whether Jax comes back or not, because I think the lineup we've got can win the trophy. But if we do find a way to trade for him (which I highly doubt), he'll have to accept a vastly different role from the free hand he's used to in GS or he'll be a detriment to the team.
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For the some package (Bonner plus Finley-Mason etc) we could probably choose between S.Jax and Maggette.
at this point, if i can choose, I would prefer Maggette...he is younger, brings quite like the some stuff of S. Jax, and also if he doesn-t have a past with the team looks to me skilled enough to play the right way if given the chance...
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Originally Posted by
StoneCutter
In his last playoff stint he shot 38%. He had 40 assists an 41 turnovers.
One of the reasons I became a Spurs fan is because they put an emphasis on high character guys. Stephen Jackson doesn't fit that mold for me. Kobe is the games ultimate assassin. If the Spurs had Kobe they would be probably be favored to win a championship. I wouldn't be a fan though. Again...just my humble opinion. Spurs don't need Jackson and his contract.
He also practically singlehandidly beat the damn Mavericks too.
Jackson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mason.
Fact.
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Originally Posted by
venitian navigator
For the some package (Bonner plus Finley-Mason etc) we could probably choose between S.Jax and Maggette.
at this point, if i can choose, I would prefer Maggette...he is younger, brings quite like the some stuff of S. Jax, and also if he doesn-t have a past with the team looks to me skilled enough to play the right way if given the chance...
:lmao
Did you SEE Maggette last year? Dudes a train wreck and is terrible.
Also, what bad past does Jackson have with the Spurs?!?!?
Where do you people come up with this stuff!??!!?
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It's true he is somewhat overrated by some here. Realistically, he may average anywhere between 11-16 ppg here. But the flexibility he would afford in so many more situations to Pop is the main advantage to the idea of bringing him back, IMO.
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Getting kicked out of playoff games during the last crucial minutes is definitely Spurs quality. :rolleyes
Spurs are so stacked they could afford it! Do it! :lmao
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Originally Posted by
StoneCutter
In his last playoff stint he shot 38%. He had 40 assists an 41 turnovers.
One of the reasons I became a Spurs fan is because they put an emphasis on high character guys. Stephen Jackson doesn't fit that mold for me. Kobe is the games ultimate assassin. If the Spurs had Kobe they would be probably be favored to win a championship. I wouldn't be a fan though. Again...just my humble opinion. Spurs don't need Jackson and his contract.
In my humble opinion, you should pay less attention to what he did in a wild west environment out in Golden State where he was expected to be one of the lead guys and more attention to what he did in his time here as a complimentary piece to a strong core.
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Finley, Bonner and Mason for Jackson makes sense. Bonner would lite it up in Nelson's system. With Jackson and Manu we really don't have enough minutes for Finley or Mason. I really think it comes down to how POP feels about Jackson. Did they part friendly? Anyone actually have knowledge of their relationship?
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I seriously doubt it happens.
Pop already described Jefferson as Jackson without all the drama.
Too much drama, pouting in the lockroom, and turnovers on the court!!!
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Originally Posted by
xmas1997
I seriously doubt it happens.
Pop already described Jefferson as Jackson without all the drama.
Too much drama, pouting in the lockroom, and turnovers on the court!!!
Who gives a shit about the drama, i'll take more drama if it = :lobt2:
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Originally Posted by
xmas1997
I seriously doubt it happens.
Pop already described Jefferson as Jackson without all the drama.
Too much drama, pouting in the lockroom, and turnovers on the court!!!
But in the same sentence, he said Jackson was one of his first loves as a coach...
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This article suggests that Nelson is preparing to talk a trade with the Mavs. Hopefully he's just toying with Cuban but he has been high on Barea.
http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=1974
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Barea, Buckner, and Williams for Jackson works. I believe if Buckner is waived some time in October it would save the Warriors money right now. Williams they could just waive. But Nelson would love to have Barea.
I find it interesting that they seem to have no interest in Howard though. Despite the log jam they already have at the 2/3
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he wants to go to a big market... not a shithole
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Did you read the article? The Warriors have toyed with trading Ellis and it suggests they would like to do so now to give Curry more minutes.
While I still have my doubts that GS would trade with Dallas it would be just like Nelson to make a trade with them for a salary dump then use Ellis and/or Biedrins to get other talent in return.
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Originally Posted by
Fillmoe
he wants to go to a big market... not a shithole
dumbass..pay attention. He wants to go to a contender, not a big market. And he already said he'd go back to SA in a second. He wants a contender..therefore, you shouldn't worry...Sacramento has no prayer in signing him.
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Does a new week start on Sunday or Monday?
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Originally Posted by
Fillmoe
he wants to go to a big market... not a shithole
lol Sacto fans calling San Antonio a shit hole.
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as long as its not hill/ blair. And any of the core it would be phenomenal. But I dont think GSW would want mason/bonner/finley.
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Originally Posted by
loveforthegame
Barea, Buckner, and Williams for Jackson works. I believe if Buckner is waived some time in October it would save the Warriors money right now. Williams they could just waive. But Nelson would love to have Barea.
I find it interesting that they seem to have no interest in Howard though. Despite the log jam they already have at the 2/3
I think a package of Bonner, Finley, and Mason is > a package of Barea, Buckner, and Williams. Barea would be the only guy who would do good in the Nellie ball system. Buckner is old, slow, and has never been an offensive player. And Williams...is just trash. :lol. 3-point threats like Mason, Bonner, and Finley would do well in GS. Our package looks ALOT better to GS than Dallas' if that's what the offers would be.
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Originally Posted by
Fillmoe
he wants to go to a big market... not a shithole
He won a ship' here and he's from Port Arthur, Texas troll! :lol
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Originally Posted by
Fillmoe
he wants to go to a big market... not a shithole
If that's true then that would doubly rule out the Kings.
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As much as I think it unnecessary to bring back Capt. Jack, it would be worse to see him go to Dallas or Cleveland. If we can swap some scrubs for him, by all means. Seems a bit lofty, though IMO.
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exstatic
lol Sacto fans calling San Antonio a shit hole.
No kidding.
Sacramento = White trash capital of the world.
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Originally Posted by
Spursfan092120
dumbass..pay attention. He wants to go to a contender, not a big market. And he already said he'd go back to SA in a second. He wants a contender..therefore, you shouldn't worry...Sacramento has no prayer in signing him.
:lol
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EricB
No kidding.
Sacramento = White trash capital of the world.
Bakersfield CA, hands down. Fort Worth is pretty nasty too, but it's a diverse hell-hole.
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BlackBellamy
Bakersfield CA, hands down. Fort Worth is pretty nasty too, but it's a diverse hell-hole.
Never been.
Its a dusty sad looking site on the drive up I-5 TO Sacramento however.
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Re: Sequ Rumor: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.
I'd prefer to trade for him without losing Mason if at all possible. Someone mentioned Finley + Bonner worked salary-wise, along with maybe our protected 2011 pick.
I realize the odds of this actually happening are extremely low, I'm just glad there's something to talk about. These next couple of months before the season starts are going to kill me.
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Originally Posted by
Phila_Chamberlain
I don't think the Warriors would want a salary dump and even if they did the Spurs could offer better players for right now.
Why would GS want Berea anyways? They have Curry and Ellis who are bigger and better.
Why would Dallas want to give up Barea anyways? He's their best PG.
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We need a gangsta on this team. We are missing that.
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Re: Sequ Rumor: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.
For those of you who think that the Spurs could ever get Jackson without letting go of the likes of Hill, Mason, Jefferson or Ginobili, you need to pass whatever you are smokin'. :smokin
The Spurs already picked Ginobili over Jack once, and that was two championships ago, so I don't think they'll be changing their minds now, bad ankles be damned.
Jefferson just got here, so he won't be traded without having a chance to play.
Perhaps the right package of Mason and/or Hill, plus filler (i.e. Bonner, Finley, Williams) would strike the chord with Golden State, but I'm betting other teams will be able to offer better packages. And as much as I'd love to get Jack back on board (and I would), I still would hate to see it at the cost of the youth movement.
Not to mention this would also push us even more ridiculously over the cap then we already are. I don't even care to take the time to do the math, but I'm pretty sure the contracts of Duncan + Parker + Ginobili + Jackson + Jefferson alone would put the Spurs over the cap or damn near it, which will only be dropping next year.
Nellie wouldn't trade baseball cards with Cuban, so no worries about him going to Dallas.
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Re: Sequ Rumor: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.
If Jackson is going to end up anywhere, I think it will probably be Houston. I doubt he would go to Cleveland and there's no way Nellie is trading with Cuban.
However, word is Golden State is trying to get some cap relief so they are open to trading some rotation players. If they are really trying to get cap relief, then a trade with the Spurs wouldn't be completely out of the question. I'd love to see Jack back, but I just don't think it would happen.
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Re: Sequ Rumor: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.
Why would Houston want Jackson? The reason they did not sign Artest is because with his age and the length of the contract he wanted, he would not help them win a title with Yao and T-Mac in limbo. They could not build around him.
Same with SJax. He is almost identical to why the Rockets did not want Artest.
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Re: Sequ Rumor: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.
Articles suggest that GS wants cap relief. I see them trading Jackson to accomplish that but no way they trade Ellis and/or Biedrins to do so too. They can get some talent in return for those guys for sure.
Dallas is really high on Beaubois so that might be why they part with Barea.
GS has a log jam at the 2/3 so why would they want both Finley and Mason?
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Re: Sequ Rumor: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.
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Originally Posted by
bigdog
If Jackson is going to end up anywhere, I think it will probably be Houston. I doubt he would go to Cleveland and there's no way Nellie is trading with Cuban.
However, word is Golden State is trying to get some cap relief so they are open to trading some rotation players. If they are really trying to get cap relief, then a trade with the Spurs wouldn't be completely out of the question. I'd love to see Jack back, but I just don't think it would happen.
Ellis, Biedrens, Maggette, Jackson. In 2012-2013, these four are the only certain contracts for the Warriors. That's four players making $41M. I think GS HAS to move at least two of them. Ellis and Biedrens both have player options for 2013-2014, so they might be harder to move. They're going to have to pay players like Curry and Randolph in a few years, and they're going to want to play them now.
My guess is they'll move Jackson and Ellis. Jackson, in spite of the foolishness spouted here, is on a relatively decent contract. A contender won't balk at that for playoff clutch. Ellis is a bit of a headcase, but is the prototype guard to play under the new hand check restrictions, a la Parker or Devin Harris.
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I can't see them moving Ellis unless he is a big time malcontent. Ellis and Curry could be a nice young back court for the future and then you keep Biedrins and Randolph.
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I can't see them moving Ellis unless he is a big time malcontent. Ellis and Curry could be a nice young back court for the future and then you keep Biedrins and Randolph.
Ellis' advocate was Mullin, who's now gone. The current FO personnel are the ones who meted out his long punishment suspension last year. Ellis made it clear this summer that he didn't want for GS to draft a PG. They drafted a PG.
Doesn't sound like a marriage made in heaven to me. They might keep him this year unless he's actively disruptive, but if he is, they may ship him out before the deadline. I think he's gonzo by next summer at the latest.
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I don't think Curry is a PG, but that is just me. I think he is a SG. It will be interesting to see what they do with Ellis.
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Book it.
Ok, I'll take that bet. How much?
Jackson won't sign because he's an overrated player that takes more shots than he makes that cares more about SLAM magazine than playing good defense.
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I don't think Curry is a PG, but that is just me. I think he is a SG. It will be interesting to see what they do with Ellis.
He's as much a PG as Ellis is, and a better shooter by far.
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Finley does have the Nellie connection... :stirpot:.
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I don't think we need him. We need Splitter more than we need Jax.
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Bakersfield CA, hands down. Fort Worth is pretty nasty too, but it's a diverse hell-hole.
I see many of oyu have never been to Arkansas, Kentucky, pretty much all of Appalachia etc.
Living in a trailer is one thing. Living in a town that still doesnt have running water is quite another.
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I see many of oyu have never been to Arkansas, Kentucky, pretty much all of Appalachia etc.
Living in a trailer is one thing. Living in a town that still doesnt have running water is quite another.
I think the best test for white trashdom within a populace is, 'how many times does a city appear on episodes of COPS within a year?'. Observing Appalachia is like tribal anthropology. You can hardly fault them for being backwards.
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We need a gangsta on this team. We are missing that.
DAMN RIGHT! shit if you get Pimp C to rap about you than you must have done somethin. well i guess he did do something gangsta, he went straight up into the opposing teams fans seats and started brawlin. but not to mention the most gangsta thing he ever did....win the ship with the spurs
http://blog.oregonlive.com/tailgate/...henjackson.jpg the mans got a gun in the middle of the praying hands....thats hard
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DAMN RIGHT! shit if you get Pimp C to rap about you than you must have done somethin. well i guess he did do something gangsta, he went straight up into the opposing teams fans seats and started brawlin. but not to mention the most gangsta thing he ever did....win the ship with the spurs
http://blog.oregonlive.com/tailgate/...henjackson.jpg the mans got a gun in the middle of the praying hands....thats hard
Pimp C rapped about Stephen Jackon because they're both from Port Arthur. Nevertheless, Jax is the man and I've wanted him back ever since he bolted for Atlanta after the '03 Finals. Not going to happen though.
