Sequ Rumor: Stephen Jackson will be a Spur by the end of the week.

im not gonna hold my breath.

IMHO Jackson is over-rated by many Spurstalk members. He is capable of putting up points, but is ineffecient (his FG% from the past two years are .405 and .414, .418 for his career). His defense is below average and so is his decision making. He doesn't always come off as a team first guy either. I would rather see Mason and some of the younger players get playing time.

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Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle

I just tried Bonner, Finley and Williams for Jax and it works, but the problem is I doubt GS would go near that - they'd want something like Bonner, Mason, Hill or Bonner, Mason, Blair, and I'm not sure about giving up Hill or Blair who I think are key to the team's plans.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

I'd love to see Jax a Spur again, but I have a terrible feeling he'll go to the Mavs, maybe for Howard (haven't the Mavs been trying to offload him for a while?). :depressed

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Just because it works on the espn trade machine, doesn't mean that it will work in real life?..Golden State is not obligated to trade him anyways..Hell if they wanted to they could make his life a living hell for the next 4 years...Plus if we did get him we would be way more over the luxury tax than we are now...Not saying that I wouldn't want him back in the black and silver..Because it would be awesome!!..But it is far from happening in my opinion?...:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2::flag::f lag:

Overrated? no, overpaid? yes.

We are trying to win now, Mason is a good spot shooter, he cant do nothing else. Sjax is playoff proven, he can play defense, and he is a playmaker, is he worth 8M a year probably not, but I want him on my team if i want to win now.

I'd like to see this get done, get that championship and repeat with all the talent we have. It just seems like too much of a good thing, prolly won't happen.

But yea, I could see the Mavs getting him even with all the drama between Cuban/Nelson. Seems like a move the Mavs would make to stay relevant this season.

Sequ doesn't know. He's just Jacked up.

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Originally Posted by StoneCutter

IMHO Jackson is over-rated by many Spurstalk members. He is capable of putting up points, but is ineffecient (his FG% from the past two years are .405 and .414, .418 for his career). His defense is below average and so is his decision making. He doesn't always come off as a team first guy either. I would rather see Mason and some of the younger players get playing time.

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Um, you don't go get Jackson for his regular season shooting percentage.

You go get him for being an assassin in the postseason.

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um, you don't go get jackson for his regular season shooting percentage.

You go get him for being an assassin in the postseason.

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+1

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Originally Posted by Leetonidas

C - McDyess
PF - Duncan
SF - Jefferson
SG - Jackson
PG - Parker

Nice defensive squad right there. And hell even in the 2nd squad he looks nice if Mason starts.

C - Mahimni
PF - Blair
SF - Jackson
SG - Ginobili
PG - Hill

Looks pretty good either way. That 2nd unit could compete with some starters. Even in a smallball lineup he works.

C - Duncan
PF - Jackson
SF - Jefferson
SG - Ginobili
PG - Parker

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:meeting:

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

Um, you don't go get Jackson for his regular season shooting percentage.

You go get him for being an assassin in the postseason.

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In his last playoff stint he shot 38%. He had 40 assists an 41 turnovers.

One of the reasons I became a Spurs fan is because they put an emphasis on high character guys. Stephen Jackson doesn't fit that mold for me. Kobe is the games ultimate assassin. If the Spurs had Kobe they would be probably be favored to win a championship. I wouldn't be a fan though. Again...just my humble opinion. Spurs don't need Jackson and his contract.

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Originally Posted by StoneCutter

In his last playoff stint he shot 38%. He had 40 assists an 41 turnovers.

One of the reasons I became a Spurs fan is because they put an emphasis on high character guys. Stephen Jackson doesn't fit that mold for me. Kobe is the games ultimate assassin. If the Spurs had Kobe they would be probably be favored to win a championship. I wouldn't be a fan though. Again...just my humble opinion. Spurs don't need Jackson and his contract.

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The 03 Spurs were arguably the best spur team ever (talent wise), and Jack arguably was the 2nd best player of that team, without him that year, we probably would had not gotten past the first round. They guy was key in every series, especially in the games the other team decided to double Timmeh. And that was in 03, right now he is more of a complete player and more mature..

The fuck is up with people saying they dont like Jax's contract? He's a damn 20 ppg scorer that bring good defense, he delivers in the postseason and already knows the system. $8 mill is a great value for a player like him, Anderson mothafucking Varejao got like a $9 mill per year deal so if anything Jax is underpaid. If the Warriors bite on a Finley/Bonner & Mason offer I'd do it in a heartbeat. I doubt it would happen but I'd be ecstatic if it did.

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Originally Posted by Spursfan 87

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The 03 Spurs were arguably the best spur team ever (talent wise), and Jack arguably was the 2nd best player of that team, without him that year, we probably would had not gotten past the first round. They guy was key in every series, especially in the games the other team decided to double Timmeh. And that was in 03, right now he is more of a complete player and more mature..

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The best spur team ever? Far from, that was our weakest championship team if u ask me. Sure there were some big names in there aside from Duncan (Parker, Manu, D-Rob, S-Jax) but dont forget that D-Rob was a shade of himself, Manu was an erratic out of control rookie, Parker was inconsistant as fuck and Speedy had to come in and bail him out many times, and S-Jax was a nobody up until that year and still undeveloped. Duncan almost singlehandedly carried the Spurs to a title that year.

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Originally Posted by siraulo23

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=npj8sf

anyone willing to give up mason for jackson?

bonner + mason for jackson works

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You know what... i think i would do that, i love mason, but if we got jackson, mason would sit on the bench all year anyways.. there are not enough minutes to go around. i would include mason for that reason alone.

Is it bowling season yet?

i can actually see nelson trading with us b4 talkin to the mavs if the mavs willing to trade howard....

then again didnt cuban had a problem with nelson and his contract over coachin and shit last season?

Segu's parents should have been sterilized.

My crystal ball said it won't happen..

[quote=FkLA;3660292]The fuck is up with people saying they dont like Jax's contract? He's a damn 20 ppg scorer that bring good defense, he delivers in the postseason and already knows the system. $8 mill is a great value for a player like him, Anderson mothafucking Varejao got like a $9 mill per year deal so if anything Jax is underpaid. If the Warriors bite on a Finley/Bonner & Mason offer I'd do it in a heartbeat. I doubt it would happen but I'd be ecstatic if it did.
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Originally Posted by Stringer_Bell

I'd like to see this get done, get that championship and repeat with all the talent we have. It just seems like too much of a good thing, prolly won't happen.

But yea, I could see the Mavs getting him even with all the drama between Cuban/Nelson. Seems like a move the Mavs would make to stay relevant this season.

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The Mavs are already overloaded at the 2/3. Unless they are trading away one of the peices they just picked up that would be the last thing they need. If they did trade away Marion or Howard I don't know if he makes them much better.

SJax is low-efficiency (34% 3G, would be the worst 3G shooter in the swingman rotation), a high-volume chucker, a non-rebounder (at 6'8" gets less than 1 RB more than Tony), and of limited bball IQ.

That's a lot of negatives to carry for maybe a couple of big shot 3Gs.

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Originally Posted by boutons_deux

SJax is low-efficiency (34% 3G, would be the worst 3G shooter in the swingman rotation), a high-volume chucker, a non-rebounder (at 6'8" gets less than 1 RB more than Tony), and of limited bball IQ.

That's a lot of negatives to carry for maybe a couple of big shot 3Gs.

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Playing in Golden State as the main man would do that to anyone.

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Originally Posted by SequSpur

Nelson ain't tradin shit to cuban

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Good point.

I don't really care whether Jax comes back or not, because I think the lineup we've got can win the trophy. But if we do find a way to trade for him (which I highly doubt), he'll have to accept a vastly different role from the free hand he's used to in GS or he'll be a detriment to the team.

For the some package (Bonner plus Finley-Mason etc) we could probably choose between S.Jax and Maggette.
at this point, if i can choose, I would prefer Maggette...he is younger, brings quite like the some stuff of S. Jax, and also if he doesn-t have a past with the team looks to me skilled enough to play the right way if given the chance...

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Originally Posted by StoneCutter

In his last playoff stint he shot 38%. He had 40 assists an 41 turnovers.

One of the reasons I became a Spurs fan is because they put an emphasis on high character guys. Stephen Jackson doesn't fit that mold for me. Kobe is the games ultimate assassin. If the Spurs had Kobe they would be probably be favored to win a championship. I wouldn't be a fan though. Again...just my humble opinion. Spurs don't need Jackson and his contract.

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He also practically singlehandidly beat the damn Mavericks too.

Jackson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mason.

Fact.