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McDyess is OLD. no guarantee he will be healthy throughout.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejuan Blair
Mahinmi is made of glass, also no guarantee he will be healthy
Blair has no ACLs and a rookie
Theo Ratliff... seriously?
Hailslip could very well get minutes this season.
Only 3 bigs stand in front of Haislip as of right now. Duncan, McDyess, and Blair. It'll be up to Haislip to earn minutes ahead of Ratliff, Mahinmi, and Bonner.
This makes the most sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by loveforthegame
Anyone trying to pretend that they know exactly how the Spurs big man rotation will be on September 1st, is lying.
What we know for certain: Duncan will start.
What we think we know for certain: McDyess will start.
What else we've heard: Blair will play 20 mpg according to Buford; Blair will play immediately, with no set amount of minutes noted, according to Pop. Pop wants to "find out what the Spurs have in Mahinmi" and vows to play him heavy minutes in the pre-season, but has not indicated he'll be in the regular season rotation.
The only other thing we know is Bonner started last year and generally Pop favors veterans who know the system and have a track record. That being said, Pop has also talked about "changing the music" and I'm not sure the Spurs have ever been entirely sold on Bonner, who seems to shrink in big games/moments and is strictly a one dimensional player. Last year he played mostly by default and because, until the stretch run, he shot the light's out from near and far.
If Haislip can shoot the 3 at a respectable-solid percentage, then combined with his superior athleticism, length and overall skill set, I suspect he'd pass Bonner on the depth chart as the shooting big man/stretch four.
That leaves Ratliff, who will likely see limited regular season minutes, presumably playing mostly against the bigger or contending teams (coincidentally, many of the contenders are bigger teams), but has a chance to be a fixture in the rotation come playoff time.
My guess as of today: Duncan, McDyess, Blair, Bonner, Ratliff, Haislip, Mahinmi.
Spurs' best kept secret ?
See, you're looking at this too much from your point of view and what you would like to see, because you see these youtube highlight reels where Haislip is flying down the lane in euroleague, dunking on people. You have to approach it from Popp's POV and from that perspective, you can see that Marcus Haislip will most likely be going straight to the D-League after pre-season. Everyone knows that a guy who dunks in Spurs games who's name isn't Manu, Tony or Tim goes to the bench.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
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Originally Posted by Dejuan Blair
:lol
That's one rare occasion out of the season! Can Tony even dunk it? Can he even touch the rim? :lol
Can Haislip even go to the D-League? It was my understanding that he could not be regulated to the D-League. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that was my understanding.
You're correct. Haislip can not be assigned to the D-league.Quote:
Originally Posted by manufan10
So by your logic the Jefferson trade will be a huge failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejuan Blair
He has two years NBA experience. He cannot be assigned to the DLeague by any NBA team. The only way Haislip could play in the Dleague is as a free agent who decides to sign a DLeague contract rather than return overseas.Quote:
Originally Posted by manufan10
Obviously I'm being sarcastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muser
IMO, I see one of the big men being traded, and I'm thinking Bonner is the odd man out. Even if he does have that experience he doesn't have some of the tools it takes to be a very productive big man in the NBA. I'm not saying Haislip does either, but with Pop wanting to give other guys opportunities Bonner has to be the odd man out. He had one whole season to prove that he belonged, and the only thing he had was an outside shot; but that wasn't there when they needed him most.
I think the big man rotation would be: Duncan, McDyess, Mahinmi, Blair, Haislip, Ratliff, and Bonner. The young guys will get most of their PT from back to backs and nights where Pop decides to not play Duncan/McDyess.
Unbelievable!Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Duncan and McDyess are going to be resting most of the regular season.
Ratliff isn't going to play much in the regular season. The guy is injury prone. At best this guy shows up in the playoffs.
There's no reason to play Bonner unless we plan on trading him by mid season.
Mahinmi, Haislip and Blair all with guaranteed contracts are going to have to play early this season, all for the sole reason that we want to see if they got the goods and if not, we want to trade them.
So expect to see all of them except Ratliff playing sharing the minutes during the regular season.
There's enough changes in this team that Pop doesn't have the luxury of being conservative and playing only those who know the system.
All that said, our bench is unbelievably...
PG - Hill
SG - Manu
SF - Haislip
PF - Blair
C - Mahinmi
disruptive!
I hope Haislip could be one of those guys that writers later say, "Spurs have done it agian. Found a diamond in the rough for pennies."
I don't get all the negative comments, it's a no risk - high reward situation.
How is my guess for the big man rotation unbelievable? Seems to me that if you've followed past history/what's been said this off season, it's at the very least a reasonable guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
Duncan and McDyess, while their minutes are sure to be closely monitored and they may sit the odd game in a back-to-back set, will not be "resting most of the regular season".
That's essentially what I said about Ratliff.
You, I and the masses may not be Bonner fans, but until or unless we see Pop drop him from the rotation, there's no reason to think he'd be at the back end of the big man rotation.
The Spurs, unless it's a can't pass up type deal, almost assuredly won't trade Blair. Mahinmi is a possibility in a similar type scenario, but otherwise unlikely. Haislip could be a contract to throw into a potential deal if he doesn't pan out.
I do expect them all to play minutes during the regular season, but that doesn't mean there won't be a, if not entirely established, somewhat set pecking order.
We don't know that for sure. Pop may want to rely on as many of his guys who know the system as possible, particularly early. Everyone assumes the beginning of the year will be to trot out the young(er) blood and that may very well be true, but don't be so sure that he doesn't look at the favorable schedule early and figure that that is the time for the Spurs to clean up, thus playing a veteran laden lineup. In other words, I don't think veterans like Bonner and Finley will just have their playing time handed away to unestablished players, they'll (young players) have to earn it.
Just because you want that to be the rotation off the bench doesn't mean it will be. Haislip may not even be able to play the three and even if he could would be in tough to leapfrog Finley as the backup SF. Backup center will likely see plenty of different guys shuffled in and out.
I am hoping for the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by wildbill2u
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muser
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Originally Posted by TD 21
In the past Pop has dropped players out of rotation the next year, so I would guess that there is reason to think Bonner might be out of the rotation. Mohammed, Oberto, and Elson are some that I can think of off the top of my head. I can see it being a reality for Bonner as well. He had one whole season to prove that he can be THE guy, and as we all saw, he can't. For that, I think Bonner will be at the end of the bench rotation.
Very optimistic :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by hater
You forgot this:
http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures...ncan--9504.jpg
^ :lmao
Those players never came into the next season and were immediately dropped from the rotation. It gradually came about and that could easily be the case with Bonner, but until or unless it happens, why would you list him at the back end of the big man rotation? I'm hoping guys like Mahinmi and Haislip pass Bonner in the rotation, but let's not get ahead of ourselves and assume that will automatically be the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by manufan10
This, except for the Ian one. I think he's been very unfortunate up until this point. Fucking tests not finding his bone spur til the 8th try had to piss him off. Hope the real Mahinmi shows this season, and shuts up the Ian is glass group.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
After further evaluation, this is the best post. My bad for being a premature quoter, I need to learn control.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by loveforthegame
Oh, and Dejuan needs no ACL's, bitch!!!:ihit
Only McDyess and Duncan are lock to be in the PF/C rotation.
For the other players, it's only speculations. You can continue to endlessly argue about who will play but truth is that you don't have a damn clue about it.
Just be a little patient, we will start to have some answers in one month during preseason games.
Indeed. To ceperez or whoever said those two would be resting, they'll most likely combine for 40-50 minutes. Only leave 60-50 minutes for the other 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno