Re: Top 15 NBA ‘Clutch’ Shooters
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Phenomanul
Manu is a clutch playmaker... moreso than a clutch 'shooter'...
- The pass to Duncan to win at Seattle in '05
- The pass to Horry at Detroit
- The pass to Duncan against Phoenix
etc...
In fact, Manu, should be classified as a clutch driver moreso than as a clutch shooter...
- The shot to seal the deal against Phoenix in 2OT
- The buzzer beater at the Athens Olympics
- His drives against the Nuggets at Denver (where he got repeatedly hacked)
- all of his clutch drives against the Pistons
- His drives to close out the Hornets in his last 'healthy' playoff series...
:tu
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what a joke of a list... LeBron should be top 5 for sure and he is not even there... what an insult to basketball!
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Roger. Fucking. Mason. No excuse for him not to be on this list, i don't care what the crackpot reasoning is--that dude will burn you if he gets free at the end of a game. Kobe on the list is fine, but #1? Despite his heroics, his non-clutchness at the foul line/an inexplicable turnover cost the lakers one finals game, and had Dwight Howard not choked at the charity stripe and Fisher saved the day, we would have only remembered Kobe getting his potential game-winner smothered by Hedo Turkoglu.
All-time clutch title, though, goes to one Robert Horry. This is NOT up for debate.
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Wow, Robert horry isnt in that list!! Wooow :wow
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NothingSpecial
Wow, Robert horry isnt in that list!! Wooow :wow
I think it's current players...
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Dirk Nowitzki thought otherwise in the ’07 playoffs, but, with the game on the line, Duncan came through and hit his only three of that season. The Spurs went on to win the series. If we still doubt that they can come up big in the clutch, see their multiple championships (4).
Um...did he mean Duncan's three against Shaq/Phoenix? in '08?
The Spurs didn't even play the Mavericks in the 2007 Playoffs. (Thanks GS!):lol
The point's taken. It was a decent article, but I do miss editorial fact checking.
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Galileo
Where's the Red Rocket?
:lol
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Ginnoobbllee
How can you leave off Lebron James from that list. How many times last year did he put his team on his back and make plays down the stretch. Right now, I would have him at number 2. The guy can nail a 3 pt shot when he has to.
:bang
Yeah, even if you want discredit LeBron for his many flaws, to say guys like Mehmet Okur and Stephen Jackson are more clutch than LeBron is pretty incredulous. Maybe not a top 5 clutch player, but to say he's not even in the top 15?? That's pretty outrageous.
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DBMethos
LOL @ Billups...someone's still drinking the 2004 Kool-Aid.
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IronMexican
Seriously. That guy hasn't done anything significant in the playoffs since the 2004 Finals.
Billups is way overrated and nowhere near as clutch as he was from 2002-2005, but did you not watch what he did in last year's playoffs for a team that couldn't get out of the first round? Did you not see how he completely outclassed the best point guard in the game in CP3? The author of the list obviously wasn't talking only about fourth quarter, last minute shots as he made several mentions about playoffs in general and made comments intimating he was talking about clutch games, not just clutch shots late in games. If anything, this past post season rebuilt Chauncey's reputation as a clutch player after 2-3 post seasons of failing to live up to his name.
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Isn't this a "clutch shooters" list, not a clutch players list?
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LeBron probably made the most memorable clutch "shot" of last year's playoffs. And, while Wade has improved his jumper, he's not much more of a consistent jumpshooter than LeBron is. But the author placed him #3 on the list.
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to me there's a big difference between being a clutch shooter and a clutch player. And its just stupid to only look at gamewinners, to me the entire 4th quarter is money time (provided its not a blowout)
really bad list with several bad omissions and factual mistakes
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IronMexican
Seriously. That guy hasn't done anything significant in the playoffs since the 2004 Finals.
You gotta admit though, without him...the Nuggets probably don't even sniff the WCF's.
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As others have said..there's a big difference between "clutch players" and "clutch shots"..
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They got the #1 right, the right is bullshits!
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That's a terrible list because the guy uses the wrong stats to make his case - you can't just look at overall %s to prove clutchness! Being clutch is about making big shots in the right moments, usually the last two minutes of a close game. I know for a fact that there are stats on exactly that (probably at basketball-reference.com, or somesuch) because I've read articles about it. Back in 05 and 06, Manu was in the top 3 clutch players on his performance in the last two minutes of close games.
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Parker is not a top 15 clutch shooter.
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Manu should be #1. no bullshit.
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Parker is pretty damn clutch I don't know what the hell you guys are watching.
Bruce Bowen, IMO, is one of the clutchest MFers I've ever seen, along with Robert Horry, Parker, Duncan, and Ginobili.
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RuffnReadyOzStyle
That's a terrible list because the guy uses the wrong stats to make his case - you can't just look at overall %s to prove clutchness! Being clutch is about making big shots in the right moments, usually the last two minutes of a close game. I know for a fact that there are stats on exactly that (probably at basketball-reference.com, or somesuch) because I've read articles about it. Back in 05 and 06, Manu was in the top 3 clutch players on his performance in the last two minutes of close games.
you mean this? ('clutch' stats)
http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM
or this ? (game winning shots)
http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm