ESPN: Predicted Standings for Western Conference: 2009-10

Pretty much agree with the list, except for the number of wins. This is the year where the bottom teams are going to be losing about just every game except against each other and the 8 seed is in doubt. I still think the Suns will make it but would not be suprised to see GSW either. 8-11 is a crapshoot and no one cares about them. 8 will not get a lottery pick and most likely get swept by LA, barring all circumstances.

Blazers are overhyped every pre-season. they are the new Rockets

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Originally Posted by hater

Blazers are overhyped every pre-season. they are the new Rockets

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:lol

for some reason i think that's a bit stretched...
they LOOK like they're going to be pretty good. at least the potential is there, it's up to them to see how they mesh.

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Originally Posted by honestfool84

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One note of explanation, as covered yesterday: The order of finish is more important in these predictions than the exact number of wins and losses. When 53 individuals vote, they will almost never all agree that one team will win as many as, let's say, 65 games, or that another team will win only 20 games, even though we know these things happen frequently. Why? Because these are extreme results that happen when pretty much everything goes right or everything goes wrong for a team. The panel collectively takes a more measured view, so the forecasts for wins and losses tend to float toward the middle.

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For everyone complaining about the number of wins, reread the first full paragraph of the article.

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Originally Posted by lurker23

For everyone complaining about the number of wins, reread the first full paragraph of the article.

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If you think the Spurs are going to win a lot more than 54 games what difference does it make whether or not that 54 wins number is one person's opinion or an average of a bunch of opinions?

I don't think anyone should be surprised or upset for that matter that the Lakers are the consensus #1 in terms of the standings. Spurs at #2 sounds about right.

I think that had Yao remained healthy and the team remained intact, the rockets would've probably been ranked #2.

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Originally Posted by mytespurs

I don't think anyone should be surprised or upset for that matter that the Lakers are the consensus #1 in terms of the standings. Spurs at #2 sounds about right.

I think that had Yao remained healthy and the team remained intact, the rockets would've probably been ranked #2.

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without Artest?? why because Tmac is making a "come back"??

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Spurs regular season wins mean nothing. Win enough to get into the playoffs, and be healthy and playing well when you get there. Lakers in the first round would be a dream matchup in my book.

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+1

As I've said many times over, a healthy Spurs team is the best in the West.

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Originally Posted by in2deep

without Artest?? why because Tmac is making a "come back"??

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I meant if the team remained intact as a whole INCLUDING Artest, a healty Yao, and perhaps a healthy TMac. I based my assessment on how they finished the season and how they performed in the playoffs. Just a speculative opinion, nothing more.

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

LA just won 65 last year, now have a championship swagger, upgraded at SF, and have a defender at the PG position. What's more they have a coach and leaders who have shown they can win multiple rings in a row.

No way their record is worse next season. They will flirt with 70.

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Leakers are just one kobe bryant high ankle sprain away from a 50-ish win season. Everybody will get injured eventually; he's just turned 31 and logged over 1000 NBA games + the recent olympic commitments. Not wishing injury upon him, but shit happens.

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Originally Posted by longtimelurker

Leakers are just one kobe bryant high ankle sprain away from a 50-ish win season. Everybody will get injured eventually; he's just turned 31 and logged over 1000 NBA games + the recent olympic commitments. Not wishing injury upon him, but shit happens.

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LOL.

Yeah, shit happens. He just plays through it.

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Originally Posted by Spurstrodamus

1) Lakers **
2) Spurs
3) Mavs
4) Nuggets
5) Blazers
6) Hornets
7) Jazz
8) Rockets
**This is regular season only. I'm picking the Spurs to win the West.

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Ill be surprised if the Rockets win 30 games this year.

54 wins? I'll take the over. With Tim Duncan in 12 years, we have 10 overs, 1 under (by 1 game), and 1 push.

Not to mention the Spurs are improved this year.

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Originally Posted by Galileo

54 wins? I'll take the over. With Tim Duncan in 12 years, we have 10 overs, 1 under (by 1 game), and 1 push.

Not to mention the Spurs are improved this year.

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It does seem odd that ESPN would mention how much the team has improved and then predict that they win the same number of games as the previous season and place second in their division.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

It does seem odd that ESPN would mention how much the team has improved and then predict that they win the same number of games as the previous season and place second in their division.

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I'll get accused of trolling if I do it so someone else please explain to OV that the Spurs and Lakers dont play in the same division.

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Originally Posted by da_suns_fan

I'll get accused of trolling if I do it so someone else please explain to OV that the Spurs and Lakers dont play in the same division.

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I'm not sure how that's relevant.

EDIT: I mistakenly looked at the over-quoted post by Ghazi where Dallas is ahead of SA. Now I understand your post. I thought ESPN had predicted it, not Mavfan.

Still, seems odd that ESPN would predict the same number of wins, since the team stands to be quite a bit better this season.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

I'm not sure how that's relevant.

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Because when you are claiming that ESPN is predicting that the Spurs will finish second in their division when ESPN is clearly stating that the Spurs will finish second in the west but first in their division, you look clueless.

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Originally Posted by da_suns_fan

Because when you are claiming that ESPN is predicting that the Spurs will finish second in their division when ESPN is clearly stating that the Spurs will finish second in the west but first in their division, you look clueless.

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See above. When you continue to hammer home a point once someone's admitted a mistake, you look like an idiot.

lol Spurs.

lol Lakers.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

See above. When you continue to hammer home a point once someone's admitted a mistake, you look like an idiot.

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Lol! Nice try, douche bag. I wrote my response before you edited that shit.

Just say "Thanks DSF" and move on.

buechler must have given the suns an 80 win season for them to get the average that they got

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Originally Posted by tlongII

lol Spurs.

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lol Oden = Sam Bowie

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Originally Posted by da_suns_fan

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Lol! Nice try, douche bag. I wrote my response before you edited that shit.

Just say "Thanks DSF" and move on.

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If it makes you feel better to think that I thought the Lakers were in the Spurs' division, power to you. Says far more about you than it does about me.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

If it makes you feel better to think that I thought the Lakers were in the Spurs' division, power to you. Says far more about you than it does about me.

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No. You are disingenuously claiming that I was "hammering home a point after you had already admtted a mistake" when, in fact, I explained that you made a mistake and you STILL didnt get it so I spelled it out for you again. Then you edit a previous post and accuse me of not letting it go which says a lot more about you than me.