Get to know Marcus Haislip

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Originally Posted by ceperez

When Odom plays at the SF position, then we got a mismatch. Otherwise we are fine. The game however is won by exploiting mismatches, and until we plug that hole, we are vulnerable.

So if the Lakers play the Odom SF card, then we should be able to plug it with Haislip at SF. If they play it for less than 20 minutes a game, then that's about how long Haislip should ever be in the court.

Playing a big SF has been what teams have been doing to us lately or a quick PF. See we had no guy with the length and quickness to keep up with them. Duncan may do a good job, but we always risk him going into foul trouble.

I agree that McDyess would hold his own against the likes of David West who plays in the block. But against guys like Dirk who play in the perimeter, we have always had trouble. We never had a guy like Posey who had enough length to be a nuisance.

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At least do some research, any research. Lamar Odom played SF in about 1% of all his minutes last season. He played over 98% of his minutes at PF. Look it up before you post.

And as I pointed earlier, if he defends Dirk it will be as a PF not as a SF. Dallas does not play Dirk with two other bigs. You can look that up as well.

Haislip may very well be used to defend mobile PFs like Dirk, Odom, and Lewis. When he does, he will be playing PF not SF.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

And as I pointed earlier, if he defends Dirk it will be as a PF not as a SF. Dallas does not play Dirk with two other bigs. You can look that up as well.

Haislip may very well be used to defend mobile PFs like Dirk, Odom, and Lewis. When he does, he will be playing PF not SF.

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True.

But it is going to nice that he might be able to use his size along with quickness to help defend SF's as well.

That would be the ultimate. Much in the same way that Kevin Garnett has been used to defend opposing team's SF's at times.

As been said before...you can't teach height. And if that height comes with quickness it's all the better for the team that player is on.

I'm hoping Haislip can provide that luxury for the Spurs. We'll see.

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Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan

So, basically you agree with everyone here that Haislip is not likely to see anything but garbage time?

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Does Odom play SF only during garbage time?

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Originally Posted by benefactor

Yeah...it's not like 400lbs is an otherworldly amount. I haven't maxed out in forever but I could probably get 350 up and he is quite a bit bigger than me.

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id consider it otherworldly if a non-juicing 6-10 man with 4-foot long skinny arms with small joints and a lanky frame and nowhere the muscular development typically necessary could bench anywhere near 400lbs.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

Does Odom play SF only during garbage time?

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Well if you had done your research or watched the Lakers at least a couple of times you would know when and how much he plays at SF.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

At least do some research, any research. Lamar Odom played SF in about 1% of all his minutes last season. He played over 98% of his minutes at PF. Look it up before you post.

And as I pointed earlier, if he defends Dirk it will be as a PF not as a SF. Dallas does not play Dirk with two other bigs. You can look that up as well.

Haislip may very well be used to defend mobile PFs like Dirk, Odom, and Lewis. When he does, he will be playing PF not SF.

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Then by your logic, Dirk and Odom shouldn't create match up problems because their size 7'0" and 6'10" are not out of the ordinary for a PF position. You got to realize, they play a SF role in their offense and that causes match up problems because a SF is too small and a PF typically is too slow.

Now speaking about Lewis, this guy hangs around the 3 point lane and rarely ever has a post-up game. Is that a PF? Maybe only in position, but not in function.

These guys play SF in offense and have the luxury of playing the PF in defense simply because of their height (not effectively, but adequate enough).

Duncan on the other hand, is a real PF, but don't expect him to guard the likes of Dirk/Lewis/Odom because he isn't quick enough.

Now look at our main competitor the Lakers. Bynum is a true center, Gasol is a true PF, Bryant is a SG, Fisher an SG and Odom well he can play PF but creates match up problems when he plays his natural position, that is a SF. Odom starts his offense from the 3pt, he can take a shot from there or dribble penetrate if he needs to. Do PFs do that?

Now look at Haislip, same thing, he can start his offense from beyond the 3pt line, take his shot from there or dribble penetrate. His low post game, just like Odom's isn't that great. So in situations with true PFs, McDyess or Blair should do much better.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

Then by your logic, Dirk and Odom shouldn't create match up problems because their size 7'0" and 6'10" are not out of the ordinary for a PF position. You got to realize, they play a SF role in their offense and that causes match up problems because a SF is too small and a PF typically is too slow.

Now speaking about Lewis, this guy hangs around the 3 point lane and rarely ever has a post-up game. Is that a PF? Maybe only in position, but not in function.

These guys play SF in offense and have the luxury of playing the PF in defense simply because of their height (not effectively, but adequate enough).

Duncan on the other hand, is a real PF, but don't expect him to guard the likes of Dirk/Lewis/Odom because he isn't quick enough.

Now look at our main competitor the Lakers. Bynum is a true center, Gasol is a true PF, Bryant is a SG, Fisher an SG and Odom well he can play PF but creates match up problems when he plays his natural position, that is a SF. Odom starts his offense from the 3pt, he can take a shot from there or dribble penetrate if he needs to. Do PFs do that?

Now look at Haislip, same thing, he can start his offense from beyond the 3pt line, take his shot from there or dribble penetrate. His low post game, just like Odom's isn't that great. So in situations with true PFs, McDyess or Blair should do much better.

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Thanks for making my point. When Haislip plays against the players in the examples you cite he will be on the floor with one other Spur big. The man he is guarding will be on the floor with one other big from the other team. Each team will have 3 other players on the court, two guards and a SF. Haislip and the man he guards will be PFs in those configurations.

I have said several times that Haislip would seem likely to get a chance to guard mobile PFs like Dirk and Odom. That will make him a mobile PF, not a SF.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

I have said several times that Haislip would seem likely to get a chance to guard mobile PFs like Dirk and Odom. That will make him a mobile PF, not a SF.

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Well if "mobile PF" is the term that fits you fancy, then so be it.

SF in my book.

But agree, it all depends on configuration. I however like this second team configuration:

Hill - PG
Ginobli - SG
Haislip - SF
Blair - PF
Mahinmi - C

Go to cause a lot of matchup problems for sure!

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Originally Posted by ceperez

Well if "mobile PF" is the term that fits you fancy, then so be it.

SF in my book.

But agree, it all depends on configuration. I however like this second team configuration:

Hill - PG
Ginobli - SG
Haislip - SF
Blair - PF
Mahinmi - C

Go to cause a lot of matchup problems for sure!

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:lol

Just tell me. Let's fantasize that the Spurs send that line up out against Dirk, Dampier, Marion, Terry and Kidd. While our SF Haislip guards their PF Dirk, who guards Marion?

Or they use it against Gasol, Odom, Artest, Kobe, and Fisher. While our SF Haislip guards their PF Odom, who guards Artest?

Or against Howard, Lewis, Pietrus, Carter and Nelson. While our SF Haislip guards their PF Lewis, who guards Pietrus?

Do you really think the Spurs are going to counter line-ups like these with Haislip and two other bigs?:lol