The SEC teams have lost a combined 12 games out of conference, and its only week 4.
Discuss..................... :wakeup
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The SEC teams have lost a combined 12 games out of conference, and its only week 4.
Discuss..................... :wakeup
You sure those numbers are correct? I see UGA losing in week 1 against Ok St and Tenn in week 2 to UCLA. Where are the other 10 losses?Quote:
Originally Posted by lebomb
None the less, I do think that everyone, not just the SEC, is underachieving a little so far. A lot of big teams have gone down and I think we're going to have a scramble like 2007 to the BCS championship unless Texas and Bama run it out. Bama is the best looking team I've seen all year.
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Originally Posted by romad_20
Maybe I was................. :bang Sorry about that. It appears the big 3 conferences are not as powerful as they once were. At least it appears that way. A lot of close games to mid-major opponents and to lesser BCS conferences. *shrugs*
I havent seen Bamas whole game, but when they are on Florida looks awesome.
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Originally Posted by lebomb
The days of constant blowouts are over. Wins are wins and I'm sure Cal, Penn St., USC, OU, Fla St, Miami, Va Tech and all those other "top" teams would take them, 1 point or 30 points.
Bama defense looks like it would eat Florida alive at this point. They are ball-hawking, nasty defenders. I would kill for that kind of D to be back at UGA.
The way the SEC has been dick-ridden for the last few years, it was bound to happen that they eventually get overrated. But, even if they're overrated, they're still the best conference in college football. But, sure, they might be overrated this year.
Idiot thread man you got to get your numbers right before you flex the fingers.
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Originally Posted by Brutalis
I admitted I looked at it wrong. But still, does the SEC look as strong to you? Im not dogging the conference, I know its good. Just wondering. They may be as strong as ever. :wakeup
22-2 out of conference Lebomb
The SEC is the best, no question
Don't start stupid threads. It's just a matter of time before TDong comes in here to start yapping about the Pac-10
I'm not sure the SEC is underachieving. They lead the nation in scoring and have the best non-conference record. The only thing I see as being below average for the SEC this year is defense. SEC leads the nation in Offense as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by romad_20
Like I said.............the SEC is #1. :p:
sec = sucks every cock
At this point in the season, I think the SEC is still #1 by a considerable margin. The Big12 has been almost if not just as good the last couple of seasons, but they're not really the same thus far this season.
Just for fun, here are the BCS conference's ooc standings. Obviously there is some serious variation on the quality of teams played, but it's still an interesting indicator.
SEC: 22-2
Big wins: UA over VT, AUB over WV, UGA over ASU
Pathetic losses: None
ACC: 19-13
Big wins: VT over NEB, FSU over BYU
Pathetic losses: Richmond over Duke, W&M over Virginia, Mid Tennessee over Maryland
Big East: 21-7
Big wins:Cincinnati over Oregon State?, USF over FSU
Pathetic losses:None
Big 10: 24-9
Big wins:Mich over ND
Pathetic losses:Northern Illinois over Purdue, Central Michigan over MSU
Big 12: 32-10
Big wins:OSU over UGA, Baylor over WF?
Pathetic losses:LA-Lafayette over KSU, CSU over CU, Toledo over CU
Pac 10:19-7
Big wins: Oregon over Utah, Cal over Minn?, USC over OSU, UCLA over Tennessee
Pathetic losses: Hawaii over WSU
Based on that, SEC looks legit. Big 12 has a number of losses, but a lot of those are to solid teams (BYU, Houston, Iowa, etc.). Pac-10 has really performed well and has gained a lot of credibility in my eyes. The ACC's record is pretty embarrassing thus far.
SEC is like overrated every year, yet at the same time, it is by far the best conference in college football.
This year it features the two best teams in the nation with Alabama/Florida... then a shit load of solid teams like LSU, Ole Miss, Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn, S. Carolina, Arkansas etc.... the depth and parity still puts every other conference to shame.
i'll tell you what i don't understand. do the Coaches even care about their own poll? wth is going on here...
Southern Cal #7 (i'll concede this is too high, based on their current play. AP has them there as well, though)
penn state #13 (too high)
houston #15 (below ok state? and after they beat tekk!)
iowa #17 (behind penn state?)
cal #19 (too high)
oregon #25 (behind cal? and ranked waaay too low)
...and 3-4 teams not ranked that should be. the AP poll isn't perfect, but its a hell of a lot more accurate, imo.
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Originally Posted by Stump
You can't judge a stat at face value when it comes to who has beaten whom.
SEC's OOC wins are over teams .309; B12s are over teams .363.
Overall the B12s OOC in games played is .469 and SECs is .351.
Vandy may be 2-2 but they haven't beaten a team with a win yet. Tenn may be 2-2 but they haven't beaten a team with a Div 1 win yet. UK may be 2-1 but, come on, almost losing to Lville? arKy's only win over FBS, Miss St only beats Vandy.
CU lost to CSU (who has only lost to BYU) and @ Toledo (who has lost @ Ohio St). La La beat KSU (which I picked by the way, look it up). The rest of the B12 losses are to ranked teams, I believe.
Does either show which is better? No, that's the point. You can't tell me KSU or ISU or CU is any worse than Vandy or Miss St or UK or arKy. The SEC bad guys just played worse opps and beat who they shoulda.
Still not a tougher division than the B12 South. Even with atm in the crapper, Baylor looks like a possible bowler this year. And the North even has 3 teams ranked, and ISU's only loss is to Iowa.
The SEC is ridiculously overrated. It's always been that way.
Fuck the SEC. They may be overrated this year, but are still the most competitive conference. SEC matchups are alway fun to watch. Florida WILL lose 1 or 2 games to SEC teams
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Originally Posted by CaptMike
Relax. I never suggested that ooc standings were the end all be all stat and I gave props to the Big 12 for playing some solid opponents. And yes, I'd agree that the SEC has played more cupcakes than some other conferences have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stump
You guys are watching too much ESPN. That fucking 2.25 billion dollar contract ESPN signed has turned ESPN into the SEC Network. SEC isn't THAT good.
That just started this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Just some stats for thought....
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The SEC has the most alumni playing in the NFL. The 2008 NFL opening day active rosters showed 259 former SEC football players on NFL rosters. The ACC was second with 254 players; the Big Ten was third with 227; Pac-10 -- 178; Big 12 -- 170; Big East -- 87. The SEC has led all conferences with the most NFL players every year since 2001. In the 2009 NFL draft, again, the SEC led all conferences with 8 first rounders and 37 players drafted overall.
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Bowl wins
####Bowls Wins Losses Ties Win %
SEC #348 190 149 9 .559
Pac-10 193 103 88 2 .539
Big Ten 209 97 111 1 .467
ACC 166 81 83 2 .494
Big 8 127 63 63 1 .500
Southwest 151 63 80 8 .444
Big 12 92 45 47 0 .489
Big East 76 42 34 0 .553
WAC 101 42 58 1 .421
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All-time wins
#######Years Wins Losses Ties Win %
Alabama 112 787 314 43 .707
Tennessee 110 771 320 53 .697
Georgia 113 713 381 54 .645
LSU 113 692 378 47 .641
Auburn 114 676 388 47 .630
Arkansas 113 646 435 40 .594
Florida 100 628 372 40 .623
Mississippi 112 597 460 35 .563
Kentucky 116 553 546 44 .503
Vanderbilt 117 547 541 50 .503
South Carolina 113 521 523 44 .499
Mississippi State 107 481 519 39 .482
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Attendence
The SEC has led the nation in football attendance for 11 straight years – averaging 75,816 fans per game in 2008
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Old school national titles included
1-BIG10- 27 (Michigan-7, Minnesota-6, Ohio State-5, Illinois-4 ,Michigan State-3, Penn State-2
2) - SEC- 25 (Alabama-11, Tennessee-4, LSU-3, Florida-3, Ga- 2, Arkansas-1, Auburn-1, Ole Miss-1 )
3- BIG12- 19 (Oklahoma-7, Nebraska-5, Texas-4, Texas A&M-2, Colorado-1)
4- PAC10- 16 (Southern Cal-10, Cal-3, Stanford-1, Washington-1, UCLA-1)
5- ACC- 14 (Miami-5, Ga.Tech-4, Maryland-2, Fla St.-2, Clemson-1)
6- BIG EAST- 7 (West Va-1, Pittsburgh-6)
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BCS winning
######total wins losses winning % number of teams
Big Ten 19 8 11 .421 7
SEC 17 12 5 .710 6
Big 12 16 7 9 .438 7
Pac-10 13 9 4 .692 7
Big East 11 6 5 .545 7
ACC 11 2 9 .182 4
MWC 2 2 0 1.000 1
WAC 2 1 1 .500 2
Independent 3 0 3 .000 1
These are just numbers, but the history and recent success can't be denied. Its true every team in the SEC isn't strong enough to win the national title every year like some fans think, but its also short sided to not see the amount of talent (coaching and players), the winning percentages (even all-time only two teams have losing records), the BCS dominance (5 championships) and the number of NFL players that come from the conference. Not to mention exciting venues (this isn't even a question) and games. But I am an SEC fan, grew up in GA and SC, so take it for what its worth:lol
Go Dawgs!
Is there a rundown on years probation for cheating by conf?
Maybe. But its been said on here before, cheating and slavery is the only reason the SEC has had success :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptMike
Well, it is what it is.
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Originally Posted by romad_20
:lmao
Lol #9 Tennessee down 13-3 to Appalachian St with 5 minutes left in first half. .
I didn't know that 100,000 people could be that quiet. Also, announcers are whispering. I feel like I'm watching golf.
Lots of surrender Cobras so far.
I feel like Aggy should somehow get at least a 1/2 loss if Tenn losses. It seems fitting given how they live so completely vicariously through the rest of the league.
Tennessee playing nowhere near their #9 ranking and South Carolina can't score a point under Muschamp.
Totally shocked so far.
Sorry your boys lost tonight Blake
:lol Bumping a "SEC is overrated" thread before halftime of the first game of the season.
Lol it should have been over before halftime, not after over timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Silver&Black
Now that is funny, I'm not sure, was the #9 SEC team playing the #1 team? No?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver&Black
Oh they were playing a Sunbelt conf cream puff. :rollin :rollin
I totally agree that :lol Rocky Top looked like shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vito Corleone
But, don't you think halftime of the first game of the season is a little earlier to start talking shit?
:lmao Most of the teams haven't even played a game yet
Not if your first game is against a family of hillbillies and you're the #9 team in the country from det SEC SEC SECQuote:
Originally Posted by Silver&Black
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Blake
You bump a SEC is overrated thread and only 3 SEC teams have played a game. The other 11 teams haven't even played a game yet.
If I was Tennessee losing to another P5 school, I'd say yes, but it was Appalatian State. Again, #9 almost lost to Sunbelt team. If that doesn't scream overrated I don't know what does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver&Black
They very well may be overrated. They'll have the rest of the season to prove their #9 initial ranking. I'll be the first dude on this site to call the SEC overrated if they deserve it. I'm going to wait till everyone plays a game though. Jesus H. Christ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vito Corleone
It would be like if the Spurs lost the first game of the season to the 76ers. Multiple people on this site would say, "The season is over. We're pretenders." I would remind them that it's only one fucking game. Or say the Lakers beat the Warriors the first game. There would be several people saying, "We're back. We're going to win the chip."
You want to trash Tennessee for almost losing to a nobody? (which they deserve) Go ahead. Do it. I've got no problem with it. Why bump a SEC is overrated thread though? 11/14 teams haven't even played a game. Just go to the game thread and talk shit about Tennessee. No reason to bring up the rest of the conference when the majority of the teams haven't even played.
tbh, there hasn't been much else to do but i agree overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver&Black
:lol SEC University struggling with West Virginia, Appalachian State, and something called a "South Alabama."
Based on who is whining about me bumping this thread, there just isn't enough lols to do lol justice
SEC University now struggling with Wisconsin and UCLA.
Wait, guys, I thought all the teams in the SEC were SEC ready? Were we lied to? :wow
The worst team in SEC history lost to a nobody.......it's happened 100 times. This won't be the last time either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
The highest ranked Big 12 and #3 team in the county got their asses whipped today. That doesn't mean the Big 12 is doomed.
:lol It's the first week of the season
No, sorry you don't get to compare OU losing to Houston to MissySt's loss.
There's no excuse for losing to Diet Bama
:lol We've lost to Maine before
This isn't the bottom of the barrel for us
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Originally Posted by Blake
Using the same exact FPI stat....Oklahoma had a 90% chance to win.
:lol I don't get to compare the two now
:lmao ESS EEE SEE trying soooooo hard
rofl fail state
Not if you want anyone to take you seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver&Black
But hey go ahead S-E-semen shield the conference by comparing #15 Houston to Alabama State. That'll be fun.
Where were all you guys at when a SEC team won the Nat'l Championship last year???
:lol All you vanished like a fart in the wind
:lol Now you want to talk shit the first week of the season
:lol bringing up last season
:lol "b-b-b-b-but!"
:lol 2 overrated teams going at it for MNC
:lol LSU getting creampied in Wisconsin
:lol Already taking off your Piss State jersey and putting on your Alabama jersey, and it's only Week 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver&Black
:lol Kinda like how you've taken off your Clippers jersey and put on your Spurs jersey upstairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
:lol Kinda like how you've taken off your Boise State jersey and put on your Longhorns jersey in this forum
:lol SEC University trailing Southern Piss
Was this thread really bumped from 2009?
Must be a mistake...
I just searched for a SEC overrated thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
Oh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Seems like every other thread had this same theme no matter what the title, at least once college football starts.
I know some posters thrive on SEC teams getting beat. But for Texas fans, it's always about OU losing. Or at least it should be. I guess I needed to find an OU sux thread and Texas says so. ATM almost choked a game away. So my schaudenfreude tendencies were almost satisfied. So there's that.
The SEC is always massively overrated, but Alabama looks like they're going to be far and away the best team, and nobody will be able to stop them.
Bama Defense looks legit, I think you might be seeing a defense where everyone is going to be drafted.
SEC University choking and gagging against FSU.
Lol ol piss snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Awesome week for the sec.
Is Silver&Black done in here for the year?
:lol
:lol
Lollllll Missouri losing to Middle Tennessee.
A bunch of Texans wimpering around about the SEC, ha~~~~
Look at Texas football, talk about sucking, hell the best Texas team is in the SEC, ha~~~
Houston is losing it.
Texas Tech, ha~~~
Texas....hahaha~~~~~~~~~
TCU
Baylor
SMU
Rice
UTEP
UTSA
SFAustin
Texas A&I
West Texas A&M
North Texas State
Texas State
Texas Southern
Prairie View
How is Blinn JC doing?
Who is the all time rushing leader in the NFL, yep....SEC.
Who holds all the QB records in the NFL, yep....SEC.
Who will save the Dallas Cowboys, yep....SEC
Who is the number one team in the nation, yep....SEC
Two SEC QB's played in the last SB, who was the MVP, yep.....SEC
You're free to start an lol Texas thread.
But this is an lol sec thread and you're a retarded fat ol fuck.
Why is that Big Smell fans are always bashing the SEC when their conference by far is the weakest out of the P5's? Not just on the field, but even academically now they rank as the lowest. And who knows if it will even be around by 2025.
Who here is a big 12 fan? We all know it blows
The big 12 doesn't need it's own thread because the conference is completely irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Lol "only muh SEC is relevant. Goooo Crimson Tide"Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
Signed every school that's not Bama