9/11 Truthers

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Originally Posted by spursncowboys

About the Clintons: I feel that if Obama did not have a valid birth certificate, I believe the Clintons would have found that out.

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OIC. Hilary would have said it first, if it were true. Ok.

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Truthers: I don't believe the commission was designed to find out if the govt. was involved.

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Yep. It was designed not to, and the government did not cooperate with any notable alacrity or zeal.

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I also feel that the AG should have had an independent prosecutor to look and see if it has merit so it can be layed to rest.

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Maybe in another twenty or thirty years Congress will revisit 9/11, and a revised version of the official story will be released.

Right now might be a little too soon, but eventually it'd be nice if the gaps were filled in a little better.

Essentially, I agree with this point

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I don't support truthers or birthers. I think the truthers have had the evidence. I have found that some people, no matter how illogical it is, will always believe in a conspiracy.

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And others will never believe in one, even though it is as plain as the nose on their face. Funny world.

I'm not sure what people are afraid of if there was not a bigger conspiracy...

...perhaps it was the millions of dollars in short-sale aviation futures that weren't properly investigated and just seem to have fallen by the way-side with the M$M..

...perhaps it was how Muhammad Atta got back into the U.S. in early 2001 after being followed by intelligence officials in Germany and recorded meeting with Al-Queda members who were of 'high interest'...

...perhaps it was govt. officials who received warnings to stay off of commercial aircraft..

...Perhaps it was the edited newscasts that were being broadcasts on all the major networks, again which were never investigated..

....these are just some of the questions that have never been refuted by any govt.-faith-based crowd that for some reason still wants us to believe that the Bush administration is capable of investigating itself without 'stretching the truth'...you know, like they did with the claims of Iraq WMD, Saddam's connections to Al-Queda...and the claim that the Iraq war would be over in 'months'....yeah, there's a nail to hang your hat on....

I'd be much more comfortable with a new investigation headed by the likes of you had you not stretched the truth even farther than any neocon in your alleged pursuit of the truth.

Good then go ahead and put your faith behind the Bush 911 Commission..

..that 'll work out for you just fine

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

Good then go ahead and put your faith behind the Bush 911 Commission..

..that 'll work out for you just fine

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Would you be a twoofer if there had been a Democrat in the WH on 9/11?

Just curious.

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

Good then go ahead and put your faith behind the Bush 911 Commission..

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In what do you put your faith, dan.

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

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..that 'll work out for you just fine

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It works out fine, if only because truthers have never given anybody anything else to believe.

Why do you never give anybody anything else to believe?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Why do you never give anybody anything else to believe?

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Tinfoil Nation has a story --- correction stories. They just don't make very much sense.

I think they go something like this:

1. Something other than hijacked commercial planes struck WTC1 and WTC2.
2. WTC1 and WTC2 were controlled demolitions. (Don't know why you need planes -- or something other than planes, if you already have planted bombs.)
3. Fire can't melt steel.
4. WTC7 was "pulled".
5. A missle struck the Pentagon -- not a plane. (Why not use the same "fake" type of plane that was used on WTC1,2?)
6. Phone calls from alleged hijacked planes were all fake.
7. Based on 6, the passengers and crews of alleged hijacked flights are "in on it".
8. Alleged hijacked flight above Pennsylvania was shot down and/or no plane hit the ground.


Does that about sum it up, Dan?



EDIT> Other co-conspirators:

FAA
Air Force
NIST
Popular Mechanics

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Would you be a twoofer if there had been a Democrat in the WH on 9/11?

Just curious.

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This transcends politics.....

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

In what do you put your faith, dan.

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

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Let's have a real investigation, one without strict time-limits, like the 9/11 Commission, one that enforced it subpoena power, unlike the 9/11 Commission and one that has a budget more than the budget used to investigate a Democratic President for a blow job and find out...

That wasn't my question.

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

That wasn't my question.

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

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Let's have a real investigation and find out...

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n what do you put your faith, dan.

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Not in an administration that has shown repeatedly it did not know the difference between lying and exaggerating the truth...that's where you hang your hat...

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

Let's have a real investigation and find out...

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Why can't you just answer the question?

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

I did answer the question....you want me to speculate without facts? I'll leave that to wing-nut radio...

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

I did answer the question....you want me to speculate without facts? I'll leave that to wing-nut radio...

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There are plenty of facts already known and you have speculated here before many times.

Based on those known facts, what do you think really happened on 9/11?

your assuming they are facts...facts have to be verifiable...

So you want me to speculate on assumptions...nice..

So what do you think really happened on 9/11?

You have always been eager to speculate on things like saying WTC7 could have been a control center for the 9/11 attacks -- so why do you fall silent when asked directly to put it all together?

Go ahead and speculate.

There is nothing stopping you.

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Originally Posted by mouse

Sadly there aren't many people these days in the politics forum where you can have intelligent debates with anymore.

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I'd miss mouse if he ever posted here.

He hardly ever does.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

You have always been eager to speculate on things like saying WTC7 could have been a control center for the 9/11 attacks -- so why do you fall silent when asked directly to put it all together?

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Wait, so you are suggesting that WC7 was used as a control center to direct the greatest tragedy to befall our country? Then after the attacks hit, WC7 was "pulled" to destroy all evidence of what it was used for? PLEASE STOP! STOP IT NOW! :wow

And now, the truth...

9/11 was no Pearl Harbor, Pearl Harbor was an inside job. At least that's what Paul McCartney's reanimated corpse told me. :sleep

No one knows exactly why WTC had to be pulled...the theory that WTC7 was used as a epicenter to control the planes that hit WTC1 and WTC2 are just a hypothesis, one among many....this speculation is not completely unfounded...WTC7 was constructed with structural reinforcements so that local/state govt could use as a control center in a terra' attack...one that Giuliani, a neocon extreme who benefited from the attacks, had supervision over..