Re: P Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
Why is Palin supposed to be immune to harsh criticism?
I have no idea. Why are you asking me that, if you don't mind my curiosity?
Re: P Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
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Originally Posted by
mogrovejo
I have no idea. Why are you asking me that, if you don't mind my curiosity?
You're deriding Newsweek for writing a piece that's critical of her. What specifically makes it such an unfair hatchet job? The photo certainly doesn't. It's showing her as a sex symbol, which she clearly has made herself out to be by not only by posing for those photos but also doing things like winking into the camera in a flirty way during the VP debate. Should Newsweek be expected to completely ignore the elephant in the room? That no one would even know who she was if she looked and acted like Janet Reno?
Re: P Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
You're deriding Newsweek for writing a piece that's critical of her. What specifically makes it such an unfair hatchet job? The photo certainly doesn't. It's showing her as a sex symbol, which she clearly has made herself out to be by not only by posing for those photos but also doing things like winking into the camera in a flirty way during the VP debate. Should Newsweek be expected to completely ignore the elephant in the room? That no one would even know who she was if she looked and acted like Janet Reno?
I think you're confusing harsh criticism with unfair criticism.
Saying that the use of that photo makes sense is like saying that a political magazine making a profile of Obama and using the turban photo in the cover is okay.
The fact that she posed for those photos for a particular context doesn't mean we can't criticize Newsweek editorial choices. I have no idea what's so difficult to understand about this.
Re: P Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
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Originally Posted by
mogrovejo
I think you're confusing harsh criticism with unfair criticism.
Saying that the use of that photo makes sense is like saying that a political magazine making a profile of Obama and using the turban photo in the cover is okay.
The fact that she posed for those photos for a particular context doesn't mean we can't criticize Newsweek editorial choices. I have no idea what's so difficult to understand about this.
I don't see how it's the same thing at all. Do you seriously believe Sarah Palin would be popular with anyone if she looked like Janet Reno and had no sex appeal to sell (which she obviously does)?
Re: P Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
I don't see how it's the same thing at all. Do you seriously believe Sarah Palin would be popular with anyone if she looked like Janet Reno and had no sex appeal to sell (which she obviously does)?
I have no idea. Would Obama be as popular if his name was Joe Smith and he was a white boy from Iowa?
Re: P Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
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Originally Posted by
mogrovejo
I have no idea. Would Obama be as popular if his name was Joe Smith and he was a white boy from Iowa?
You have no idea? Seriously?
Re: P Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
You have no idea? Seriously?
Yes. Margaret Thatcher wasn't sexy. Angela Merkel isn't sexy. Golda Meir wasn't sexy. I think the idea that attractive women politicians are popular due to their looks highly dubious and sexist at its roots.
But let's assume she wouldn't. What would make the situation different? Or do you believe that Obama would have been as popular if, while having the same political ideas, he was a white Iowa state senator called Frank Smith?
Re: P Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
yeah, those women winking in every camera would have been gross.
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I can't take you seriously when you act like sex appeal isn't a huge part of her popularity, and should somehow be off limits and tiptoed around.
Re: P Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
why would you want to take away the only reason bubba cares?
Re: P Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
I don't see how it's the same thing at all. Do you seriously believe Sarah Palin would be popular with anyone if she looked like Janet Reno and had no sex appeal to sell (which she obviously does)?
Believe it or not, it's her message. Now her looks don't hurt any. We conservatives aren't as shallow as you liberals. Please stop applying your thought processes to us, and you might start to understand us.
Re: P Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
I can't take you seriously when you act like sex appeal isn't a huge part of her popularity, and should somehow be off limits and tiptoed around.
Are you trying to avoid answering my question? I already said you are free to assume that I think that sex appeal is a huge part of her popularity. I still don't see how that makes the situations different (and in any case the objective of the magazine was not to illustrate her sex-appeal but to cast doubts on her seriousness as a politician).
Re: P Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
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Wild Cobra
Believe it or not, it's her message. Now her looks don't hurt any. We conservatives aren't as shallow as you liberals. Please stop applying your thought processes to us, and you might start to understand us.
:lol
Please. If she weren't a milf she'd still be the same anonymous governor of alaska that she was 18 months ago.
Re: P Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
If Obama was white, would he be president?
If Baroness Thatcher was an attractive middle-aged woman, would she have won so many elections?
I wonder how can anyone have definitive statements about the importance of Palin's looks to her popularity. I think there are three equally reasonable hypothesis: they hurt her, they help her and they are irrelevant.
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I repeat, if pitbull bitch was a typical mid-40s fat or overweight American woman with a plain or worse face, she'd have no celebrity.
I wouldn't be surprised if, with her $Ms from her book, she got her nose de-manified and her jaw softened, maybe some breast reduction or implants.
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they told her she'd be hot and a real shot in the arm for mccains campaign.
she tried to give them (in retrospect) what they wanted.
sure enough, cornbread bubba ate that shit up.
when the bottom fell out, she knew she'd have to go back in the dark of alaska.
she couldn't stand the thought. she had to find a way out.
so she quit, wrote a book, and is making money off that instead of lap dancing.
Re: P Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
She is somewhat, that is somewhat pretty so that is why she gets all the bad publicity. That is AWESOME!!!!!!!!
