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Under which administration? Even so, yesterday he was pretty blunt about it. Which was a total shock to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
What's so funny about dishonoring our patriotic traditions?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Look, I'm not in here 24/7 bashing BHO, looking for petty criticisms... But to some of his supporters in here, they make it seem like the man can do no wrong... it really becomes rather tiring....
Sept 11th should be for what it is. A day of infamy, a day we were attacked. Whether people want to find it in their hearts to serve that's great, and is a beautiful thing. Just don't need a govt dictate to remind us.
Why didn't any president make Pearl Harbor a day of service?
If you notice much of the defense for Obama is exclusively for the petty ramblings of the dead enders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenomanul
Carter and every administration since.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenomanul
Honor a pledge.Quote:
What's so funny about dishonoring our patriotic traditions?
Charges of "dishonoring" a pledge seems quite petty.Quote:
Look, I'm not in here 24/7 bashing BHO, looking for petty criticisms... But to some of his supporters in here, they make it seem like the man can do no wrong... it really becomes rather tiring....
anti-Magic Negro mob makes it seem like the man can do no right... it really becomes rather exposing of their ignorance, ill will, bad faith.
Maybe if he invaded VZ for oil while saying it was really part of the GWODrugs, all y'all mofo's would be happy?
No way.Quote:
Originally Posted by angel_luv
9/11 was a terrorist attack.
Do you know what democrats mean by "national service" and what they want to do?
It was nothing resembling honoring the dead of a tragic attack.
That's not it. It's the term "national service."Quote:
Originally Posted by angel_luv
You're a demagogue and an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
You couldn't be more out of touch, dummy.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
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Originally Posted by cobra's paranoid irrational ass
A complete loon I might add.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Early September, it was signed Faye Parrish.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
:rollin nicely done.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
While she drills for oil in Alaska, has another spill or two or three and lets Exxon off again for 10 cents on the dollar. After 20 years have gone by. Oh and lets get gas up to 5+ bucks a gallon again within 3 months of her taking office.
Well that is certainly your opinion...Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
But I don't find patriotism to be a petty subject... for all I know, Obama was distracted by something at the time... If he willfully deviated from that tradition however, what point was he trying to make? Was he making a 'statement'? That I know of, he hasn't given any explanation as to why he just stood there during the pledge.
isn't it possible that he was distracted by demons?
You mean the demonrats?Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
Zing!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
:rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by clambake
Typical
you're the one that said he might have been distracted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenomanul
you are also the one that thinks demons are bent on confusing mankind.
you have to acknowledge this possiblilty.
I find the microscopic observation of throwaway gestures that substitute for real patriotism to be extremely petty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenomanul
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Originally Posted by angel_luv
http://spectator.org/archives/2009/0...desecrate-911/
Plus, "national service" is an expression that holds dark and gloomy connotations, just like the collectivist dream of "bringing X together".
http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w37.html
And you personally believe all of the dark and gloomy connotations?
Placing our hand over the heart is a throwaway gesture? It should be automatic during the Pledge of Allegiance. The pledge itself is an observance that gives us the opportunity to take a moment from our day to honor some of the valued ideals of this nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Again, the most justifiable excuse is that his mind was elsewhere... otherwise, if done willfully, he would at least have to give a reason... In other words, if distracted, fine.... if not... we'd at least have to question why he deviated from tradition...
I don't care if he bows or doesn't bow to other heads of state... to me, it's a sign of respect (golden rule reciprocality)... I don't care if he accidentally states a typographical error.... I don't care if he excels at using the teleprompter... I didn't mind that he went overseas to make a pitch for the Chicago 2016 games (I thought it showed loyalty to his state). In fact, in this particular issue his deviation from tradition, is surprising more so than enraging... I simply want to know the reason why he would choose to disregard something that should be so automatic to most Americans... you're blowing my intrigued curiosity way out of proportion (as usual - you love to argue for the sake of arguing).
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Originally Posted by clambake
your shtick is getting real old. :rolleyes
So you are saying an even bigger deal should be made out of this. Do you have a flag pin on today? It should be automatic! You aren't a patriot! It's proof!Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenomanul
I respect your right to have such a loony opinion.
:rollin :lmao :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I don't owe you anything... certainly not a list things to 'prove' whether or not I'm a Patriot.
Take your cynicism elsewhere.