Obama "We noticed"

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

:lol

I believe you were stuck on the wrong track, then you tried to back out of it.

Beeeeeeep-beeeeeeeep-beeeeeeep-beeeeeep

The more you try to back up, the more my point is strengthened :tu

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Like I said, I knew you would "hurl back" some twisted form of my own words....

You're too predictable... But how can that be? You denied employing cynicism as your mode operandi... Nevertheless, that's all you seem to embody! Snide cynicism.

Meh... whatever....

Either you can justify Obama's deviation from tradition or not.

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That's what I'm expecting to hear... because other than "speculation" we have nothing.

At least my rationale that he could have been distracted tried to give him a little bit more credit... Your argument, however, that traditions amount to nothing more than "throwaway gestures" was your biggest reach. Of course all of your apologist buddies bought it. :lol What else is new?

But keep singing that tune. It's a good theme for your group... :lol

looks like the little disciple can't man up.

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Originally Posted by clambake

when are you going to put it in drive?

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So how long do you plan on sticking to that story?

Your group tactics can't silence me.

pffft.... as if..... :wakeup

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Originally Posted by clambake

looks like the little disciple can't man up.

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I have... apparently you and chumpy are unable to...

say you were wrong.

god will forgive you.

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Originally Posted by Phenomanul

Like I said, I knew you would "hurl back" some twisted form of my own words....

You're too predictable... But how can that be? You denied employing cynicism as your mode operandi... Nevertheless, that's all you seem to embody! Snide cynicism.

Meh... whatever....

Either you can justify Obama's deviation from tradition or not.

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That's just it.

It doesn't need any justification.

You think any deviation from your standards you apply to everyone demands a justification.

You're too predictable. You think it's due to the actions of demons.

unbelievable how long this guy is hanging on to this.

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Originally Posted by Phenomanul

You denied employing cynicism as your mode operandi... Nevertheless, that's all you seem to embody! Snide cynicism.

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I never denied employing cynicism.

You lie.

Take it back.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

That's just it.

It doesn't need any justification.

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Tis' your opinion... if it wasn't an aberrant episode of Obama's presidency why has no other President been called out for this blunder? But like I said, your group keeps preaching that he is above reproach. This whole excercise screams as much.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

You think any deviation from longstanding traditions, taken by elected officials such as Obama, require an explanation...

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Fixed... your original statement is strictly a confabulation of your mind...

Mine is the crux of the argument....

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

You're too predictable. You think it's due to the actions of demons.

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:lmao

Now you're just stooping to clambake methods... I thought you had more self dignity. Pitty....

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Originally Posted by Phenomanul

Tis' your opinion... if it wasn't an aberrant episode of Obama's presidency why has no other President been called out for this blunder? But like I said, your group keeps preaching that he is above reproach. This whole excercise screams as much.

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maybe because sick bible beaters like you got bored with calling him a terrorist and the anti-christ.

like i said long ago. your dad really fucked you up.

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Originally Posted by clambake

unbelievable how long this guy is hanging on to this.

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I haven't changed one single word from the post CD interpretted as requiring everyone to place their hand over their heart.

I said it should be an automatic gesture...

Not surprising is the fact that you all still haven't addressed the issue at hand....

You all have focused all your efforts on derailing the question, in hopes that I'll give up so that you all won't have to answer it.

That tactic doesn't work without the proper premise... and you all aren't standing on it. :wakeup

now it's automatic gesture.

you suck at this.

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Originally Posted by Phenomanul

Tis' your opinion... if it wasn't an aberrant episode of Obama's presidency why has no other President been called out for this blunder? But like I said, your group keeps preaching that he is above reproach. This whole excercise screams as much.

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Actually no. It's just that this is a spectacularly petty and insignificant issue. I'd much rather reproach him for running up the deficit. This is very important to you, I understand that -- but it's stupid.

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Fixed... your original statement is strictly a confabulation of your mind...

Mine is the crux of the argument....

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No, you said anybody. You said what everyone should do during the pledge. That was the crux of your argument until you tried to change it.

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:lmao

Now you're just stooping to clambake methods... I thought you had more self dignity. Pitty....

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Are you saying demons could not in any way be responsible for Obama's departure from tradition?

Yes or no.

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Originally Posted by clambake

maybe because sick bible beaters like you got bored with calling him a terrorist and the anti-christ.

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Now you've just conceded the argument because (1) I've never called Obama the anti-Christ and (2) I immediately criticized angel_luv for doing so back when she suggested such an unfounded notion... Unlike you all, I remained civil... you are nothing more than vile snakes in these arguments.

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Originally Posted by clambake

like i said long ago. your dad really fucked you up.

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:lmao :lmao :lmao

Keep derailing the question.... (this is your personal Freudian concession remember?)

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Originally Posted by Phenomanul

I haven't changed one single word from the post CD interpretted as requiring everyone to place their hand over their heart.

I said it should be an automatic gesture...

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....for everyone.

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Originally Posted by Phenomanul

Now you've just conceded the argument because (1) I've never called Obama the anti-Christ and (2) I immediately criticized angel_luv for doing so back when she suggested such an unfounded notion... Unlike you all, I remained civil... you are nothing more than vile snakes in these arguments.

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all that garbage comes from the same hate machine.

why don't you go ahead and drink all of it?

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:lmao :lmao :lmao

Keep derailing the question.... (this is your personal Freudian concession remember?)

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i'm not going to derail it. there's no way out for you.

i just didn't want you to forget that i know how my sig became reality for you.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Actually no. It's just that this is a spectacularly petty and insignificant issue. I'd much rather reproach him for running up the deficit. This is very important to you, I understand that -- but it's stupid.

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The deficit is a far more important subject I agree...

Funny though.... I've yet to see a thread started by an Obama supporter that calls him out for his handling of the economy... All I keep reading is how it's all Bush's fault etc... :blah :blah :blah or some other form of misdirection, or downplaying...

As for the reproach... I've held from the very begining that questioning Obama's behavior was pretty innocuous.

I have been arguing against your petty reaction that he not be questioned... There is a big difference, and I know your smart enough to know what it is... But unfortunately I also know your stubborn enough to never admit it.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

No, you said anybody. You said what everyone should do during the pledge. That was the crux of your argument until you tried to change it.

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That was never my argument.

But keep trying to build up that strawman. It's toppled over repeatedly.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Are you saying demons could not in any way be responsible for Obama's departure from tradition?

Yes or no.

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Still riding the clambake wagon? :lmao

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Originally Posted by Phenomanul

Funny though.... I've yet to see a thread started by an Obama supporter that calls him out for his handling of the economy... All I keep reading is how it's all Bush's fault etc... :blah :blah :blah or some other form of misdirection, or downplaying...

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8 years vs. 10 months. Hmmm.

Bush's fault when Obama took office.

Bush's fault after his first 100 days.

I'm going with, "It's still Bush's fault" for $1000, Alex.

Unless you think this economic crisis could have possibly been solved by now?

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Originally Posted by clambake

all that garbage comes from the same hate machine.

why don't you go ahead and drink all of it?

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So your generalization is the foundation for your arguments against me. Your prejudice against GOD fearing people?

I understood that much from the get-go... When you finally do is when you'll realize that your prejudice is the reason why you can't be taken seriously.

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Originally Posted by clambake

i'm not going to derail it. there's no way out for you.

i just didn't want you to forget that i know how my sig became reality for you.

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No way out???

Your self-loathing is amusing at best? But a sad reality that you can't hang with the argument.... it's time you face it.

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Originally Posted by Phenomanul

The deficit is a far more important subject I agree...

Funny though.... I've yet to see a thread started by an Obama supporter that calls him out for his handling of the economy... All I keep reading is how it's all Bush's fault etc... :blah :blah :blah or some other form of misdirection, or downplaying...

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Keynesian spending binges were expected, just not this much.

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As for the reproach... I've held from the very begining that questioning Obama's behavior was pretty innocuous.

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Yet you demand an explanation.

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I have been arguing against your petty reaction that he not be questioned... There is a big difference, and I know your smart enough to know what it is... But unfortunately I also know your stubborn enough to never admit it.

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Your questioning is petty. I know you will never admit it.

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That was never my argument.

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It was, then you backed off it.

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But keep trying to build up that strawman. It's toppled over repeatedly.

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It's not a straw man, it's your argument. I know you will never admit it.

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Still riding the clambake wagon? :lmao

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Why can't you answer this question?

You believe that demons act to mislead men. Could a demon be misleading Obama?

Yes or no.

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

8 years vs. 10 months. Hmmm.

Bush's fault when Obama took office.

Bush's fault after his first 100 days.

I'm going with, "It's still Bush's fault" for $1000, Alex.

Unless you think this economic crisis could have possibly been solved by now?

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I'm going to go with the credit companies, and banks... and ultimately the people who borrowed beyond their means... place the fault where it belongs...

With a society that has lessened the value of a good education. With people that feel they are entitled to free-bies without working for their pay... That culture has finally caught up to us...

With a war that has waged on inefficiently, using up many of our country's resources...

With innefficient and unpractical immigration policies and control...

With agendas that have curbed the oil markets in favor of bad science... if the energy sector suffers, so does the rest of the nation...

Like I said, people here wish to make everything about party lines instead of probing the issues at their core....

and not once did I have to blame Obama for something he didn't create.

Ok... you want to go there.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Why can't you answer this question?

You believe that demons act to mislead men. Could a demon be misleading Obama?

Yes or no.

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No... I don't believe a demon is misleading Obama.

But since you insisted on going there... you'll lose this argument too.

You've again misrepresented my quote to lead your line of questioning down an errant path. Coincidence? No. You do this repeatedly for your own convenience.

In clambake's sig, my quote never suggested that demons mislead men directly... it was my explanation of why UFO's appear but have yet to officially make their existence known... I suggested that UFO sightings could possibly be the work of demons. Because if they somehow convinced mankind that intelligent life existed elsewhere in the universe that this would seemingly undermine the message of gospel for many people. That's why her prejudiced position against me is so ridiculously flawed... :lmao As if she had anything on me....

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Originally Posted by Phenomanul

Ok... you want to go there.



No... I don't believe a demon is misleading Obama.

But since you insisted on going there... you'll lose this argument too.

You've again misrepresented my quote to lead your line of questioning down an errant path. Coincidence? No. You do this repeatedly for your own convenience.

In clambake's sig, my quote never suggested that demons mislead men directly... it was my explanation of why UFO's appear but have yet to officially make their existence known... I suggested that UFO sightings could possibly be the work of demons. Because if they somehow convinced mankind that intelligent life existed elsewhere in the universe that this would seemingly undermine the message of gospel for many people. That's why her prejudiced position against me is so ridiculously flawed... :lmao

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So demons cannot work directly on or through men by causing them to do things like not properly "honor" a pledge?

That's fine. They're your beliefs.

Don't think we didn't notice you didn't answer the question that was asked.

Why is CHumpdumper worried about Obama being possessed by demons?

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Originally Posted by Ignignokt

Why is CHumpdumper worried about Obama being possessed by demons?

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Who says I am worried? I'm just wondering what could be included in Phenom's list of possibilities.