Well, looks like they got their 60 votes in the senate for "health care"

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Originally Posted by spursncowboys

I am ok with spending money for our security. I am not niave enough to think the government can handle 1/6th of our economy successfully. Instead of everyone having good healthcare, I imagine all AMericans, will have bad healthcare. I could believe a little harder in this utopia if the congress put thier belief in it.

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How much of the economy is now government spending?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

How much of the economy is now government spending?

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Rapidly approaching the tipping point. When there are more people in the cart than are pulling the cart the whole house of cards will come tumbling down.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Not to mention tires are a luxury item. No one is going to die because he has to take the bus until the next paycheck.

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i have a doctors note saying i get high anxiety around crowds. life's a bitch.

next?

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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

Rapidly approaching the tipping point. When there are more people in the cart than are pulling the cart the whole house of cards will come tumbling down.

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Meaning what?

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

So you agree that Viva's comparison was ridiculous?

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it's health related. why are you so uncompassionate to my situation?

how compassionate. blame the "party of no" and the old people for the mess we're in. you "progressives" are a riot.

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

You know the first trillion is covered by costs cuts in other programs right?

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deficit neutral?

polly wanna cracker?

raaaaahhhhh

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Meaning what?

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I think it means, when you have more piglets sucking on the tit than you have feeding the sow, things dry up and you end up with sow's ears for that silk purse in which to keep your lipstick.

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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas

deficit neutral?

polly wanna cracker?

raaaaahhhhh

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So maybe you have the projected growth of health care costs without the bill's passage.

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I think it means, when you have more piglets sucking on the tit than you have feeding the sow, things dry up and you end up with sow's ears for that silk purse in which to keep your lipstick.

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I'm not talking about cards and pigs.

I'm talking about what you think really happens after this "tipping point" is reached.

No metaphors. Say what you think will really happen.

the real indicator if this was wanted by the people will be the '10 elections. that, for me, will be a clear indicator. until then i just see more "duck season, wabbit season".

LOL at the analogy with Christian charity. It's easy to do charity with others people money. That's what Obama and the far-left are doing. It's not their money.

passed

expect the dollar to take a shit Monday and gold to hit an all time high.

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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

passed

expect the dollar to take a shit Monday and gold to hit an all time high.

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Why? Generally this kind of thing is already incorporated by markets, so I wouldn't expect to see that, but this was just a vote to start the debate.

With Obama's popularity dropping bellow 50%, independents putting the blame on dems for the state of the economy more and more and 70% saying that correcting the budget deficit should be a priority even in times of economic crisis, I doubt this bill passes without MAJOR changes.

The fact that dems struggled so much to get the votes to begin the debate is very telling.

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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas

i have a doctors note saying i get high anxiety around crowds. life's a bitch.

next?

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Cute

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Why? Generally this kind of thing is already incorporated by markets, so I wouldn't expect to see that, but this was just a vote to start the debate.

With Obama's popularity dropping bellow 50%, independents putting the blame on dems for the state of the economy more and more and 70% saying that correcting the budget deficit should be a priority even in times of economic crisis, I doubt this bill passes without MAJOR changes.

The fact that dems struggled so much to get the votes to begin the debate is very telling.

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They now only need 51 votes to pass it as is since it's out of committee. At this point democrats are just drawing straws to see who can vote against it on the floor.

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

You know the first trillion is covered by costs cuts in other programs right?

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You know that's going to adversely affect the quality of care the people in those programs receive, right?

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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

They now only need 51 votes to pass it as is since it's out of committee. At this point democrats are just drawing straws to see who can vote against it on the floor.

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Nah, they'll need the 60 votes to bring out a vote of cloture.

i wonder if all the pro-nanny supporters here do charity work or any of the sort currently?........................................ ......................

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Cute

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where's your compassion?

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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas

where's your compassion?

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So lifesaving treatment is on par with new tires, XBoxes, and plasma screens? No wonder people think Americans are spoiled.

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i wonder if all the pro-nanny supporters here do charity work or any of the sort currently?........................................ ......................

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i do. i've talked about it many times.

how about you?

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i wonder if all the pro-nanny supporters here do charity work or any of the sort currently?........................................ ......................

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Not to brag about it. It wouldn't be said otherwise. Since you asked- in that rhetorical/condescending/gaping asshole style of yours?

Just yesterday, I dropped well over a hundred bucks on beans and tuna fish at Costco. Bagged and ready to go to the foodbank.

In the past six months, I've also worked at the Utah AIDS Foundation's food bank, served the homeless at Sunday morning breakfasts, donated dog food to a shelter, sent 20 bucks a month to the ASPCA and donated money to the family of a kid who's dying of leukemia.... And I've supported, y'know, giving sick people health care. Whatever it costs me.

Probably more than you've done. Maybe not. But whatever, I'm not going to make assumptions. Look where it got you.

Actually I don't need assumptions; the board conservatives just melted down over Obama declaring a national day of service.

So now might not be a good time to bring up how compassionate you all are compared to the ever so evil Democrats.