Re: How to fix Capitalism.
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get rid of market intervention from the govt...
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TDMVPDPOY
get rid of market intervention from the govt...
Soooooooooooooooo tired of this.
It. DOES NOT. WORK.
WHY do people think that a completely free market is going to work in a country where corporations can pay for slave labor overseas?
Re: How to fix Capitalism.
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TDMVPDPOY
get rid of market intervention from the govt...
I don't think you've been paying attention recently.
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Cry Havoc
Soooooooooooooooo tired of this.
It. DOES NOT. WORK.
WHY do people think that a completely free market is going to work in a country where corporations can pay for slave labor overseas?
Ethics is different from Central Planning. Plus, paying low wages overseas did not cause the economic collapse.
It's sad you posted a good article yet, you're still lacking in what the article was all about.
Less Rufus Wainwright, MacBook, Scarf and more studying economics. thanks.
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TheProfessor
I don't think you've been paying attention recently.
Getting rid of an ethics law to spur Markets by the govt.. and loosening regulations was "Market intervention.", just like having artificially low interest rates.
Haven't you been paying attention?
Re: How to fix Capitalism.
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TDMVPDPOY
get rid of market intervention from the govt...
Most of it.
There are some areas that need to be controlled, like breaking up monopolies. We need to keep most environmental regulations as well. Then if there really is such a thing as "too big to fail," then never let them get that big. Split them up into two independent entities.
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Ignignokt
Ethics is different from Central Planning. Plus, paying low wages overseas did not cause the economic collapse.
It's sad you posted a good article yet, you're still lacking in what the article was all about.
Less Rufus Wainwright, MacBook, Scarf and more studying economics. thanks.
Mmkay.
Re: How to fix Capitalism.
nobody wants to hear this cause it would be true even though its nuts and cruel but drop a nuke on china
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iggypop123
nobody wants to hear this cause it would be true even though its nuts and cruel but drop a nuke on china
:downspin:
Re: How to fix Capitalism.
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Ignignokt
Getting rid of an ethics law to spur Markets by the govt.. and loosening regulations was "Market intervention.", just like having artificially low interest rates.
Haven't you been paying attention?
You're better off just insulting people than pretending you have any idea what you're talking about.
Re: How to fix Capitalism.
Get rid of copyright and patents. The end.
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Cry Havoc
The new mercantilism is the root cause of the problems most of my other proposals seek to solve. It has also lead to a failure to regulate properly. The obvious examples are the clear failures in the regulation of banks (such as allowing deposit takers to have high risk investment banking operations), but there are others: the US broke up Standard Oil and AT & T, but failed to break up Microsoft, reflecting the general trend towards letting businesses do as they like.
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This idea is simple. Tax big companies more. This will discourage mergers except where there are clear gains. British tax law already has lower rates for small companies, but this does not go far enough. The rates should keep increasing as companies get larger (at the moment there are no further increases on companies with profits greater than £1.5m: I would suggest bands at say £15m, £150m and £1.5bn as well). Obviously, we would need similar systems in all major economies.
The size criteria should not be based on profit. It should be based on value added: so a big company that has a bad year would not see its tax rate reduce (obviously taxes paid would do down in proportion to profit).
Give shareholders control
A big part of his argument toward monopolies is the assumption that if someone gains a large portion of their market, there is no ability for other companies to come in and try and take more.
Thomas Sowell argues that, even if a superior business drives out a competitor, it does not follow that competition has ended:
In short, the financial demise of a competitor is not the same as getting rid of competition. The courts have long paid lip service to the distinction that economists make between competition—a set of economic conditions—and existing competitors, though it is hard to see how much difference that has made in judicial decisions. Too often, it seems, if you have hurt competitors, then you have hurt competition, as far as the judges are concerned.
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1999/0503/6309089a.html
I think the Microsoft is a bad example since they are losing their market share by competition from built from scratch companies.
Penalizing companies for becoming too successful is immoral and not in our best interests as a country. However, if instead of having laws against monopolies, you have fines for a certain percent. That sounds like a better idea. Also there is nothing wrong with companies becoming large corporations. Mr. Gillette came up with the idea to sell disposable razors. He then built a sound company that is a low risk into investing into because they have credibility to not only make a profit, but to stay in business. Heinz is the first person to have a see through ketchup bottle, that way people knew they were buying something good. For all the good intentions of intervention, it never truly helps and almost always stiffles innovative thinking. The economist, Schumpeter, says that innovation is the prime reason why our economy has grown like it has.
Great article though.
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iggypop123
nobody wants to hear this cause it would be true even though its nuts and cruel but drop a nuke on china
Don't you think a nuke is not enough?
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iggypop123
nobody wants to hear this cause it would be true even though its nuts and cruel but drop a nuke on china
I know this is sarcasm. But man, would you really go to war against China? They have something like 1000000000000000000000000000000000 potential soldiers! :lol
I suggest you don´t do it. :toast
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MB20
I know this is sarcasm. But man, would you really go to war against China? They have something like 1000000000000000000000000000000000 potential soldiers! :lol
I suggest you don´t do it. :toast
We have a Navy that could blockade their ports. With the mountains to the West, and the majority of their population 400 miles off coast, they wouldn't be able to do much. Match that with our huge amount of missiles to theirs, we would be able to destroy every strategic target and control the skies. As for their foot soldiers. They do not have a real army. With it communism, the armies real job is to work the docks and dig ditches(from a "Next 100 Years"). America has the greatest fighting force, not only in the world but in the history of the world (first hand experience makes me wonder how jacked up everyone else is for us to be that good).
With all that said, China is needed of our money that we are of their debt holdings. Their baby boomer problem is far worse, than Europe or America. Their currency is manipulated and has to be corrected sooner or later. Inflation, lack of a real infrastructure are also some problems.
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Why would we attack China for our spending problems?
Re: How to fix Capitalism.
A lot of problems stem from the corporate charter. It is time to redefine what a corporation is and place limits on the ability of corporations to behave as if they are individuals. Also, in cases where corporations blatently broke laws the corporate officers that either approved the behavior or failed to stop should be more exposed to criminal prosecution.
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byrontx
a lot of problems stem from the corporate charter. It is time to redefine what a corporation is and place limits on the ability of corporations to behave as if they are individuals. Also, in cases where corporations blatently broke laws the corporate officers that either approved the behavior or failed to stop should be more exposed to criminal prosecution.
+1
Re: How to fix Capitalism.
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byrontx
A lot of problems stem from the corporate charter. It is time to redefine what a corporation is and place limits on the ability of corporations to behave as if they are individuals. Also, in cases where corporations blatently broke laws the corporate officers that either approved the behavior or failed to stop should be more exposed to criminal prosecution.
! Fascism! Socialism! Some other ism that I'm unaware of the meaning of! You can't regulate companies -- that goes against the free market!
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capitalism has made it this way
old fashion facism will take it away
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confusing capitalism with corporatism much?
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Viva Las Espuelas
confusing capitalism with corporatism much?
In the USA? Yes we do. To the point where the two are practically synonymous.
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A completely free market will completely and freely fuck over consumers whenever they can to increase their profits.
I have no problem with this, unless we are talking about conflicts of interest, such as health care. Completely free market has no place in CoI's like health care.