A trade suggestion that will definately put you guys back on top

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Originally Posted by z0sa

I'm done, I now honestly and fullheartedly apologize for calling you names or being a dick. I am overly argumentative apparently, and it gets the best of me. I'm sorry.

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You know what is funny? I was honestly just about to post this to you. I am sarcastic at times, and I definitely love to debate (Chump and I head the SpursTalk Debate team), but I honestly was not trying to be a dick. I was poking fun at you, but not in a harmful way and I am sorry if it comes across like that.

Laker999...FYI, unfortunately the Spurs don't have the luxury of David Stern's assistance with our trades, so we can by no means be certain that Wade or any other superstar will sign with us as a free agent.

So although gutting our team for a shot at landing a guy like Wade may make sense to a Laker fan, we Spurs fans - much like the rest of the
NBA - must operate in the real world. That's the world where you don't get a Pau Gasol for a Kwame Brown.

We'll see if the injury gods smile upon your Lakers this year as brightly as they did last year. Injuries are the one thing Mr. Stern can't control, yet he got his wish last year when teams such as the Spurs, Celtics, and Magic were not at full strength, and thus the Lakers waltzed to the title.

But I'm sure you're confident - as I am - that everything else within Mr. Stern's control will go in favor of the Lakers, even if it is at the expense of other teams in the league.

wade would never come here.

Damn, you guys are trolling yourselves over a thread started by a Laker fan. Get your act together.

This would never happen because the spurs don't operate by gutting the roster of talent to go after pipe dream star free agents. Maybe the Lakers can get away and pull something like that off but the spurs can't. History has shown San Antonio is not a desired destination for the top free agents.

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Originally Posted by Baseline

Laker999...FYI, unfortunately the Spurs don't have the luxury of David Stern's assistance with our trades, so we can by no means be certain that Wade or any other superstar will sign with us as a free agent.

So although gutting our team for a shot at landing a guy like Wade may make sense to a Laker fan, we Spurs fans - much like the rest of the
NBA - must operate in the real world. That's the world where you don't get a Pau Gasol for a Kwame Brown.

We'll see if the injury gods smile upon your Lakers this year as brightly as they did last year. Injuries are the one thing Mr. Stern can't control, yet he got his wish last year when teams such as the Spurs, Celtics, and Magic were not at full strength, and thus the Lakers waltzed to the title.

But I'm sure you're confident - as I am - that everything else within Mr. Stern's control will go in favor of the Lakers, even if it is at the expense of other teams in the league.

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Wow you are totally left in the dark when it comes to basketball. let me educate you on this real world scenario...

you believe David Stern actually controls trades. if this was the case, do you have any proof to back up your claims. Links, Witnesses, call records? If that was the case wouldnt you think someone would have dropped the dime on David Stern by now. The FBI moved in on Tim Donaghy due to investigation of gambling in the NBA. If you think about it controlling Trades for Big Market Teams is a form of Gambling and it is Highly illegal. if someone like David Stern was doing this you bet your ass he would have been caught up by now. He held the comissioner position for nearly 30 years and you have no facts that David Stern rigged trades to get certain teams to play together for ratings. If you have any fact that David Stern commits this crime please post it becuase other than the pile of shit you just posted you really talking shit out of your ass.

also... Pau Gasol was traded for an expiring contract, and prospect rookie, 2 first round draft picks and Marc Gasol who is avering double double this year and could be well on his to an allstar game in year or so. Its been nearly 3 season since Gasol got traded and you are still crying your eyes out. grow the fuck up already. you sound so bitter by bringing stupid shit up that obviously you know nothing about.

also...maybe its the fans attitude seeing you guys cant land a a superstar for a small market team... load a shit if you ask me stop crying and bitching becuase saying that no one wants to play for the spurs is just as delusional as being by saying "we would rather have RJ and Gin" you have a 2 HOF's and HOF coach.... landing a superstar to SA is possible just like in any other city with championship pieces

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Originally Posted by Lakers999

fellas.... as a laker fan and a strong supporter of the laker vs spurs rivalry... I would suggest the following. IF it happens

trade mcdyss, ginobili and jefferson for expirings and fillers (i.e. tracy mcgrady) and go into the running for dwade next season. If you do land wade the spurs will have the best back court in the NBA. And thats something the lakers are lacking....

with a big 3 of wade, duncan, and parker.... you can build your forwards and centers around them easily.....

just a suggestion and if I was RC im sure this would have crossed my mind... duncan and pop are not going anywhere for the next 3 years

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lol, good one

I didnt read whole thread and I wont do it. I just want to say that Wade or LeBron or even Bosh wouldnt come here at all. Only 2010 FA, who I think is worth giving up Ginobili is Joe Johnson.

Spurs still have a good team, but it still isn`t working properly and I just hope it is a matter of time.

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Originally Posted by Lakers999

Wow you are totally left in the dark when it comes to basketball. let me educate you on this real world scenario...

you believe David Stern actually controls trades. if this was the case, do you have any proof to back up your claims. Links, Witnesses, call records? If that was the case wouldnt you think someone would have dropped the dime on David Stern by now. The FBI moved in on Tim Donaghy due to investigation of gambling in the NBA. If you think about it controlling Trades for Big Market Teams is a form of Gambling and it is Highly illegal. if someone like David Stern was doing this you bet your ass he would have been caught up by now. He held the comissioner position for nearly 30 years and you have no facts that David Stern rigged trades to get certain teams to play together for ratings. If you have any fact that David Stern commits this crime please post it becuase other than the pile of shit you just posted you really talking shit out of your ass.

also... Pau Gasol was traded for an expiring contract, and prospect rookie, 2 first round draft picks and Marc Gasol who is avering double double this year and could be well on his to an allstar game in year or so. Its been nearly 3 season since Gasol got traded and you are still crying your eyes out. grow the fuck up already. you sound so bitter by bringing stupid shit up that obviously you know nothing about.

also...maybe its the fans attitude seeing you guys cant land a a superstar for a small market team... load a shit if you ask me stop crying and bitching becuase saying that no one wants to play for the spurs is just as delusional as being by saying "we would rather have RJ and Gin" you have a 2 HOF's and HOF coach.... landing a superstar to SA is possible just like in any other city with championship pieces

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Watch your language, punk. I shouldn't have wasted my time responding to you in the first place.

You're a Laker fan, so you couldn't possibly understand anything resembling reality. If you really believe that David Stern doesn't affect certain trades, or any other minute detail of his league, I don't really know what else to say to you. But as a Laker fan, his dealings will NEVER affect you adversely, so you will always take the same position - that of ignorance. The rest of the leaugue knows about Laker fans. Laker fans have no clue. It's a world of ignorant, large-market bliss.

The REALITY is that your Bryant-led crew missed the playoffs entirely the year after Shaquille was shipped out of town, and remained a mediocre 7-8 seed with no hope of making the Finals until the ridiculous Gasol trade happened. And Gasol changed everything. That, you blabbering moron, is a fact.

Have a nice life, Lakers999 - you won't get another second of my time.

“A lot of people have worked very hard over the years to bring this sport to where it is right now,” Popovich said. “For anybody to think that it is not on the up and up really is offensive. If I thought it wasn't on the up and up and I didn't have any control over outcomes, I wouldn't be doing it."

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141555

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Originally Posted by Lakers999

fellas.... as a laker fan and a strong supporter of the laker vs spurs rivalry... I would suggest the following. IF it happens

trade mcdyss, ginobili and jefferson for expirings and fillers (i.e. tracy mcgrady) and go into the running for dwade next season. If you do land wade the spurs will have the best back court in the NBA. And thats something the lakers are lacking....

with a big 3 of wade, duncan, and parker.... you can build your forwards and centers around them easily.....

just a suggestion and if I was RC im sure this would have crossed my mind... duncan and pop are not going anywhere for the next 3 years

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As if Tracy McGrady has any past, present or future. This dude doesn't even have a playoff resume. For you to make such an outlandish suggestion, it's clear that you've not been paying any attention to his career or his injury history.

And if you think D-Wade is going anywhere outside of Miami, again you're fooling yourself.

Bottom line, your trade suggestion, in addition to not being possible, it doesn't make any sense. No disrespect, but this is the type of suggestion that I would expect from a Clipppers fan - not a Fakers fan.

wade is a game changing megalith and wherever he goes he will instantly improve them. hes not just a scorer or one dimensional-he has incredible playmaking and passing skills, high iq, and doesnt make mistakes. and hes clutch as anyone. that said theres not a chance in hell the spurs get him.

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Originally Posted by spurspokesman

I was thinking something of the gasol magnitude. How about mahinmi and haislip for bynum and kobe. Straight up. We can have pop and RC get your GM tipsy and have the contract right there for him to sign.:toastA toast to that one.:jekka:jekka

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That trade would be Bonner and Splitter's rights for Marc Gasol.

If the league allowed that trade I wouldn't mention the Lakers' trade anymore.

When younger Gasol was playing in Europe , Splitter was way better player. If Gasol have done such big progress, I think Splitter would do the same or better. Just wait and give this guy chance.Dont trade his right`s for similar player.

I have a trade that will put Lakerfan over the top... Trade Gasol back for Kwame Brown and Odom for Caron Butler...

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Originally Posted by Mal

When younger Gasol was playing in Europe , Splitter was way better player. If Gasol have done such big progress, I think Splitter would do the same or better. Just wait and give this guy chance.Dont trade his right`s for similar player.

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I actually liked Marc Gasol since last season when I saw him in the games they played against the Spurs. I thought he was really tough and a Spur like player, nothing like his brother who was more know as a soft finesse player.

I also know people said Splitter is good, shit you could even find a quote from Marc Gasol early last season saying that if the Spurs had Splitter it would be over. Marc Gasol himself though has gotten a lot better since then and I don't know if Splitter would ever come over that's why I threw that one in there. What better way for the NBA to hype up a series Gasol Vs Gasol. lol you gotta make the NBA buy into it before they suggest the trade to the Grizzlies ;).

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Originally Posted by ElNono

I have a trade that will put Lakerfan over the top... Trade Gasol back for Kwame Brown and Odom for Caron Butler...

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I would like that trade ;).

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Originally Posted by init2winit

Wade or LeBron won't but Bosh would.

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http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade...radeid=5318614

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Originally Posted by Lakers999

fuck that shit.... if you land Wade.... depending on the RC moves if he does any.... the Spurs should Be Wade's team

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no that's not how SA operates. but that's why you're a Laker fan, not a SA fan. no knock on you though. :toast

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Originally Posted by SpurNation

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade...radeid=5318614

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you can't build around bosh. see last year

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Originally Posted by duhoh

you can't build around bosh. see last year

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What makes you think the team would have to "build" around him if Bosh were to come to SA?

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Originally Posted by SpurNation

What makes you think the team would have to "build" around him if Bosh were to come to SA?

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the trade from the link involved sending TP over there. realistically, this franchise would build around TP after Timmeh takes off.

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Originally Posted by duhoh

the trade from the link involved sending TP over there. realistically, this franchise would build around TP after Timmeh takes off.

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Tony Parker is not a player a team builds a franchise around. After Duncan is gone...the Spurs will rebuild from the ground up. I would even doubt if Parker would remain a Spur a year after Duncan retires.

This team isn't (or shouldn't) be about rebuilding while Duncan has a couple of years left. Another legitiment big like Bosh would, IMO, better insure another trophy more so than Parker. IMO, the team can survive without Parker if another quality big were on the team. I'm not so convinced it can win another championship without one.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

I have a trade that will put Lakerfan over the top... Trade Gasol back for Kwame Brown and Odom for Caron Butler...

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:lol Excellent. :toast
Yes lets reverse the Flamers obviously rigged trade with the Memphis Lakers.

Hey Lakers999, you gonna respond to this?

We stay the course. POP needs to accelerate getting down to a regular rotation. I think that Manu , RJ and Hill pack a wallop on a second unit. That would mean Bogans and Mason start with Tim, Tony and either McDyess or Ratliff. I go with Ratliff. Add Dice to the second unit and we are a go. My theory is that you need 3 scorers and 2 role players on the court at all times. My second unit of Manu, Hill, RJ, Dice and Blair would provide that. All play decent D. Our only problem is that we haven't settled in to a rotation that works. We need to force other teams to adjust to us!