Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Yep. Most was from 1900-present.
http://www.windows.ucar.edu/earth/cl..._1800_2000.png
Printable View
Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Yep. Most was from 1900-present.
http://www.windows.ucar.edu/earth/cl..._1800_2000.png
There you go, assuming CO2 causes the degree of warming we see.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
When will you libtards stop listening to propaganda?
boutons so naive :lol
Climate Change in Hawaii: Caught Between a Rock and a Big Wave
http://www.truthout.org/1215093?print
Global warming in UNDENIABLE
Anthropogenic warming is EXTREMELY PLAUSIBLE
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tion_curve.svg
Not that any of you oil/coal/gas/VRWC corporate shills would let FACTS puncture your FANTASIES.
I have to congratulate you, though. Many of The Great American People, dumbed down by corporate TV and distracted by junk culture, ie, ideal brain-softened targets of your demagoguery, now doubt both global warming and evolution.
You are to be congratulated for making The Great American People the laughing stock of the planet, added to the hate and distrust the planet has now for how The Great American People know how to run their economy and capitalism.
Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
"I know there is pressure to present a nice tidy story as regards 'apparent unprecedented warming in a thousand years or more in the proxy data' but in reality the situation is not quite so simple."
-Keith Briffa
"not quite so simple."
so, it's complicated to present proxy data about global warming because the data and climate are extremely complicated. That one sentence doesn't negate global warming.
Nobody denies the earth has warmed. We have only disagree with what to attribute the warming to. Now all current data points to a cooling period, of unknown duration. We had a record cold the other day of 16F, breaking a 70's record of 17F.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
pfff...
Leaked UN report shows cuts offered at Copenhagen would lead to 3C rise
GuardianQuote:
UN secretariat initial draft shows gap of up to 4.2 gigatonnes of CO2 between present pledges and cuts required to limit rise to 2C
The emissions cuts offered so far at the Copenhagen climate change summit would still lead to global temperatures rising by an average of 3C, according to a confidential UN analysis obtained by the Guardian.
With the talks entering the final 24 hours on a knife-edge, the emergence of the document seriously undermines the statements by governments that they are aiming to limit emissions to a level ensuring no more than a 2C temperature rise over the next century, and indicates that the last day of negotiations will be extremely challenging.
A rise of 3C would mean up to 170 million more people suffering severe coastal floods and 550 million more at risk of hunger, according to the Stern economic review of climate change for the UK government – as well as leaving up to 50% of species facing extinction. Even a rise of 2C would lead to a sharp decline in tropical crop yields, more flooding and droughts.
Tonight hopes of the summit producing a deal were rising after the US, the world's biggest historical polluter, moved to save the talks from collapse.
The secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, committed the US to backing a $100bn-a-year global climate fund from 2020 to shield poor countries from the ravages of global warming. Barack Obama is expected to offer even more cash when he flies in tomorrow. .............(more)
"We had a record cold the other day of 16F"
I remember a prediction that global warming would increase weather instability, in BOTH directions.
Stick your short-term anecdote when your sun spots don't shine.
Global cooling is causing record melts of Greenland, glaciers, and both poles. Repug logic, up is down, black is white, greed is good.
Conservatives, spinnning fantasies and lies non-stop, are simply wrong on the facts and policy, EVERY time, as the deregulation, absent-govt financial depression proves yet again.
:lmao
The world blazes a carbon trail to Copenhagen to watch Obama throw a hissy fit while China tells him to fuck himself. Who knew this president would be such a failure?
Oh yeah, those of us who didn't vote for him.
:lmao
It has ever been my curse to be accepting of ideas and skeptical of people. Even though I agree with the judgment the bolded probably (I can't read minds) signifies, I do not share the bookended schadenfreude (ROFL) that seems to delight in our country's misfortunes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
BTW, would you mind posting a link for the hissy fit you referenced? I'm feeling like a nap.
The President has already failed his campaign imago dismally, and around his neck he carries the bailout, the deficit, the prosecution of two very iffy wars and a health care reform bill that from the beginning was more a costly giveaway to special interests than a reform of health care cost or quality.
Obama's failure to implement his socialist agenda is not this country's misfortune, I assure you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Went back to Drudge and the link was gone. He titled it "Anger" and the lead paragraph talked about how angry was Obama and how the Chinese walked out on some meeting...Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
If I come across it again, I'll post the link. My bad.
I thought he had already destroyed America, or was just about to. My bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
It's not over...unfortunately, this guy's in office for another 3+ years. Hopefully, he'll lose his complicit Congress next November.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
socialism = VRWC red herring (aka outright lie)
D'okie dokie. The VRWC is swaying opinion...so, call it what you will. I don't care so long as this "centrist" president we have doesn't get his agenda implemented.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Well, it's been 5 years for the September low points and ice is larger that alarmists predictions.
Any of you think the Arctic will be ice free in 2 more years?
LOL...
Shazbot, you make me laugh. Do you always let an activist blog tell you how to respond?
Look at the trend of the last few years:
http://psc.apl.washington.edu/wordpr...time%28%29%20?
Also note, that chart ends 1/31/14.
Here is a better source:
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph...rea.arctic.png
Please note, several recent years have more ice loss than 2014. The trend is "recovering." I never implied "recovered."
I am asking if anyone thinks that in 2 more years if the arctic will be free of ice, as claimed.