spurs would be better with hill starting over this shitty passing, no defense playing, tony parker
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spurs would be better with hill starting over this shitty passing, no defense playing, tony parker
I think you're going a bit overboard, but Tony definitely isn't playing like he did last year; that's for sure.
hey tony go fuck yourself, you already fucked us playing this summer.
get real dude parker is playing like a deying fetus out there
he's more invisible than jefferson. Sure hope the french team enjoyed getting their asses whipped this summer.
^ t his is not possible...if it wasnt for onscreen rosters i wouldnt know we even traded for rj
is a fucking scrub without TD. It's time to trade this undersized combo guard while he still has some trade value.
Add ducks with him.
He did suck tonight but he wasn't alone... cough*RJ*cough
Yeah. RJ is one massive disappointment this season. 14 million dollars my ass
Gotta love Summer ball..
Trade Parker for Nash.
1st of all I understand players option to play for their countries
But TP and Manu doing that in the last 2 years is killing the Spurs
TP is playing bad this season. He's speed is nowhere near the last 3 or 4 years and his D is the worst of his NBA career
Again, I understand their choices but I'm mad because is really killing the Spurs
Spurs Brazil, you kinda disappoint me with that Post...I thought you had a better vision about national teams being brazilian.
To me he's kinda adjusting to RJ and Dice, as everyone else. He'll be fine.
stupid thread
Parker and Richard Jefferson should be known as the Team Invisible.
This thread proves how far this forum has fallen. You peopleare pathetic..
lol anyone who thinks Hill has the ability to lead this team at PG.
And There is a FIBA world championship in 2010
yeah guys lets all calm down for a second. its a December game for crying out loud
He should take 2 weeks off and get healthy. He's obviously a step (or three) slow and lacking lift. But he doesn't deserve beaten down by fans just for struggling.
Well,we played better when he was the PG last year than we are playing now.Quote:
Originally Posted by _JaG
I wouldn't mind, but Nash is a run and gun system type of guy...We are more of a half court set team...So it really wouldn't work out too well?...Now if we had some younger, jump out of the gym type of guys Spurs and Nash couldn't be fucked with!!!...Quote:
Originally Posted by xtremesteven33
Parker got no help on pick-and-roll defense to start the game, then panicked to make up for it on the other end ... which resulted in a damn horrible performance.
He is obviously not healthy. He said so and you can see it. Pop needs to step up and tell Parker to sit down. He is not helping himself or the team.
Fans are fickle however and this is to be expected. I honestly 100% believe the fans would be much easier on TP if Ducks was not so outrageous.
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Originally Posted by xtremesteven33
Hell, trade little tp, and the worthless 3, Dice, RJ & Bogan, to anybody for anything. This Spurs squad has become the joke of the NBA. But, after tonight Phoenix wouldn't give us their best ballboy for those 4 bums. Bring back Bowen, Thomas and Oberto. We were no where as bad with them old geezers.
lol at this thread.
LOL Tony Parker.
That's very true?.....But what happened to that outside shot he developed over the last few years?...That was making him completely un-guardable...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
I agree with this.. Parker is sucking ass right now but we all know he is a way better player than he has been this season. I agree that he should take some time off and get healthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
nash last 5 games 24 points 11 assist
so I guess other players must suck as much as tp to then
No lift on his jumper, his teardrop, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursnatic
Nash> Every PG except Deron Williams and Chris PaulQuote:
Originally Posted by ducks
You fail, ducks, now STFU. Go back and suck on TP's dick.
You're right. Being Brazilian I understand this guys will to play for their NT teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by MmP
But as a Spurs fan I'm very mad at this situation. But again, I understand and respect Manu and TP decisions
I have never seen Parker make so many bad passes throughout an entire game since 2002. He looked like a first year crazy herky jerky euro out there, except very slow and not excited to play.
Very sad watching your best player age like a 6 year meth addict.
tp has owned the suns the last few years
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Originally Posted by SouthTexasRancher
"spurs fans are idiots" -Marcus Bryant
No more correct words were spoken.
nash 2 assist for one turnoverQuote:
Originally Posted by Chieflion
when healthy tp is like that or better
2 weeks? He needs more like 3 months offQuote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
oh suns won last year game one
spurs won the next three
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Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
He admitted he came back quickly from injury. He should sit down for a week or two.
Parker being injured does not excuse him from criticism. Like I said, I sure hope he had fun getting Team France's ass kicked to pieces over the summer.
Did you examine his ankle to deduce that? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
Tony doesn't look good. REST PLEASE. LET HILL SHINE
I'm not going to pile on TP... but Pop needs to figure out there's something wrong and sit his ass until he feels better. He just can't help us like this...
Ok, go and pray to the Parker statue back at home, ducks.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
I knew once he went back in we would lose our momentum. Too bad you have to realize that since he is our start.
yea...i believe he said his reason for returning earlier than scheduled was because the spurs were losing games, but he's clearly not helping right now ,thus need to just rest.
Tony's clearly hindered.. sadly, there's no rest for the weary, at least the weary who want to contend. If our w/l was better, it'd help a lot.
Use your ignore list... Ducks doesn't even really like TP -- it's an act that started to piss off Manu fans because he doesn't like Manu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chieflion
Ducks, please, if you truly care about TP, please stop talking about him. You make no sense and you actually cause people to turn on him.
I think TP can play his way to health. He's not as injured as he was in 2008 when he could barely run and had to miss a few weeks. He's not 100% but I don't think he's so injured that he has to be shut down.
TP needs to up the intensity and enthusiasm out of preseason mode. He's been able to sleepwalk in regular seasons in the past but this team doesn't have enough cohesion to play without energy.
Overall, I think TP's struggles this season are overstated by most but he definitely needs to raise his level of play a few notches if the Spurs have a prayer to be elite. If he keeps playing at this level, the Spurs are one and done in the playoffs.
Perrenial fans of a given team start to pick up on trends, on cycles, continuities in regards to discussion about their team.
For us as Spurs fans, we have to constantly face and stomach and swallow the fact that our foreign players wear the fuck out of themselves over the summer, and the human body just cannot tolerate this no matter how hardy the player is. Ginobili at least won a Gold medal in one of his endeavors. But I was still pissed like no other at his foreign ass for playing last olympics on a HURT ANKLE when any intelligent human in their right mind knew the USA was going to steamroll the competition like Miami against UT in the cottonbowl.
Parker playing last summer was just flat out senseless.
And here we are again. Watching our players age super fast and struggling to stay above .500
Ginobili didn't exactly do a bang up job himself. Duncan can only do so much all by himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIMMYD!
Just messing with ducks, Kori, I am not mad at him, just having fun. His schtick is getting old and lame fast though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
It looked to me like Parker and then Hill were both getting killed on the pick and roll, leaving Nash open on jumpers, Frye open on jumpers, or other bigs open to the basket. I kept thinking it was Parker/Hill failures. Did you see otherwise?Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
but his excuse for not playing well is of his health (if i recalled correctly in one of his interview)Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Parker was looking much better the last 3 games though. This was a major regression again. I know he is injured, but why the difference from the last 3 games and today? The Spurs have absolutely no shot at winning if TP is not healthy, so take the lumps now and hope he and the rest of the Spurs get healthy.
Says the guy who epically quit on a struggling Spurs team on THIS very same forum. I guess that was when this forum was at it's peak in quality, huh? You're such a giant hypocritical douche bag it's not even funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by EricB
And just to save you time because I know this will be your lame ass come back... n'sync!! nsync!! justin timberlake!!
This years Spurs team always look good/terrific/awesome/championship caliber versus shitting teams, which happens to be who we faced the last three games prior to tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
normal the spurs go over the screen they went under tonight
why I do not know
that is on pop not players
The problem is: are the Phoenix suns really that great of a team?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
I was referring just to TP and how he looked. His explosiveness and his sharpness. Spurs go from looking young to old overnight. TP looked pretty much back to 100% physically the last 3 games then tonight he makes you worry that he has lost a step.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
Then you just have to remember he is still young and still injured.
Tony's has played so bad, people have forgotten how bad RJ is.
where is the official hill suck thread
where is the official manu suck thread
7 points tonight
5 points against jazz
where is the official thread of rj sucks
suns played with more engery and had their best game all year tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
spurs got down used alot of energy to get back in it
The bigs have to slow Nash enough for TP/Hill to get back into the picture after a pick. For much of the first half, the bigs were not only letting Nash get all the way to the rim, they left the bigs open, too. Basically, it was horrible pick-and-roll defense. TP could have fought more against the bigs but that was about the extent of his fault on those plays. A point guard doesn't have a chance if the bigs aren't going to help out at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by VI_Massive
Still perfect at home, so ya, superb team at home. In 2005, the Suns were the best road team in the NBA or something. They are still good.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
They were always a great regular season team with Nash but lat season was a fluke because of O'Neal and the radical change the team made mentally.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
suns are good if they control the tempo like tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
and they were coming off a bad loss against nuggets and they HATE the spurs
I know, but what does that have to do with TP's lack of energy and the way he looks physically?Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
you mean it might have been duncan other people fault to besides tp they lost:wowQuote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Oh, ok.... now I feel a lot better about losing this game... :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by ducks
I said in the game thread that everyone as a team was making the dumbest decisions when guarding Nash that I have ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
every guard of that suns team attacked TP like he wasn't even there and successfully do so
At this point, I am not even looking at if he is scoring or his stats, I am just watching his movements and energy. Last 3 games pretty damn close to 100%, this game, severely regressed.
Guarding Nash, I think is the toughest thing to do for anyone in the league. He is such a great shooter, you can't sag off him, you leave your man to help for a split second, he finds the open man. I can only blame the Sppurs for not communicating well on defense. Nash flat out confused the entire Spurs team with his play.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
I understand how difficult it is to guard Nash, but that does not mean he is impossible to guard and the Spurs played him terribly tonight. With anyone, not just Nash, you have to give them one or the other. You cannot give them both. Spurs gave Nash everything tonight.
It was painful to watch how old Nash owned Tony's ass all game long.... within all the mediocrity the one that "guarded" Nash somehow decently was old and done for ever Ginobili.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
The Suns were killing all of our players with the P&R, so I don't blame Tony for that..
He DID get torched by both Nash and Dragic though, he missed A LOT of rotations..anybody that has watched Parker has seen that his defense has been absolutely horrible all year except for maybe 2 or 3 games..unlike Nash, Parker doesn't even take charges, so he's a huge defensive liability right now..
It's discouraging that he was playing better the last few games as he became a distributor, but he STILL racked up a bunch of turnovers..the haters aren't exaggerating, Tony is having a very poor season so far..
A guy that plays Tony Parker's style has to be efficient to make it work..he dribbles the ball a lot and he has to have the ball in his hands to be effective..when he's turning the ball over at a very high rate AND not dominating the scoring, he hurts our offense..he has to be dominant with the ball since his 3-point shooting is a liability..he's just hurting the team right now..
The optimists can sugar coat it all they want, but Tony isn't going to get better without a few weeks of rest, he's looked off physically all year..he's actually looked slow next to a lot of PGs so far this season..
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Originally Posted by Creation88
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Originally Posted by itzsoweezee
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Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
Would you say this to Tony's face. Would you say that about Tony to any
Spurs player/coach?
So, you think his lack of legs or conditioning is effecting his play on the defensive end? Parker has always been an adequate defender, but this season he's looked like Derek Fisher alot. I was worried about Timmy's health and conditioning going into the season, but it's obvious right now that Parker and Ginobili are much bigger concerns.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
That's all.
Timmy has a legit excuse for his injuries though(age and mileage). What's Manu and Tony's excuse? International basketball...which is absolutely pathetic for two guys that are getting payed more than 10 million each to play for their REAL teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Paco
This guy's Finals MVP and perennial all-star status don't mean shit! He just plain sucks...no stats or logic needed!
Manu did not play basketball at all last summer...Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
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Originally Posted by EricB
Good to see you man up, EricB :toast
He's just playing horrible this year. The teardrop is MIA, and he's missing layups. We're seeing Tony from like 5 years ago, and that's not a happy sight.
Calm the fuck down man
The Spurs had a run to cut the lead down to five
Tp9 is just adjusting and he's not the only spur that had a shitty game tonight
Yeah, Spursbrazil I am with you man. I am with you. I understand it completely, but as you said it is killing us out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs Brazil
He was looking better though Kori and he said in an interview a day or two ago that he is feeling better and not far from 100%. He's looked pretty good the last few games, until tonight that is. Is this a cop out every time he plays bad against a good team?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
He might be feeling less pain, but it's obvious by his speed/lift that he's not all the way healthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
I just find it weird that everytime he plays good it's against a crap team and he is looking better, then we play a good team he looks like shit again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
If he is that injured I guess it is time to sit him.
Pop needs to ask all the guys in the locker room that played pathetic that if they don't want to be here and put forth the effort he'll try and trade them.
McDyess and RJ are giving us NOTHING.
lol all the homers in here talkin about parkers defense compared to seasons past...lets get this straight his a avg defender like every avg player out there who can stay in front their man, arms up waving in the air like you just dont care,
Quit making excuses for Parker dudes a bum.
Tony Parker has played some incredibly tough defense in the playoffs before.Quote:
Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
Don't bring that trash in here. Have you watched many Spurs playoff games or followed them for long?
You gotta make sacrifices. TP and Manu thought they could do it all. Big mistake. Thanks for letting us down guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
If I was Pop I'd rest TP for at least a month. Let Hill develop. Why not?
This team is going nowhere in the standings. Might as well let TP rest.
International basketball sucks.
Go ahead and suck RJ and TP balls thenQuote:
Originally Posted by EricB
Because he can't. He just got busted up playing for Argentina in 08.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Nope. He got busted up leaving it all out there for the Spurs. He had both of his injuries playing with the Spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by ezau