Pop says “too many pathetic games from too many people.”

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12-16-2009
Chomag

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I wouldn't say Dice is safe from Pop either right now. He has looked very bad since the Boston game.
12-16-2009
Ice009

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Originally Posted by murpjf88

What makes you think toronto is going to want to take other team's trash?

Because they could lose Bosh for nothing.

I didn't say the Spurs would ever offer this or Toronto either. All I asked is if the people in this tread would make the trade. I am curious if you would do it?

What would you offer for Bosh if you were putting together a package?
12-16-2009
lennyalderette

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too many pathetic decisions from the coach is more like it!!!!!!!!!! sit their asses down if they play like shit!! moron! dont remove players that get you back in the game! pop is a smart guy, but as of late his decisions on rotations and lineups are just plain stupid!!!
12-16-2009
murpjf88

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Originally Posted by Ice009

Because they could lose Bosh for nothing.

I didn't say the Spurs would ever offer this or Toronto either. All I asked is if the people in this tread would make the trade. I am curious if you would do it?

What would you offer for Bosh if you were putting together a package?

Well, bosh is a free agent at the end of the year. If I could ship off rj, I would. But for bosh, I would give roger mason, possibly finley and bonner, and definitely RJ. In order to sign bosh though, that would almost certainly end manu's career in san antonio.

Personally, I think tony will turn it around. He almost has to.

What does worry me about tony is playing summer ball. When manu played summer ball in 2007, he was useless down the stretch and in the playoffs. Tony might only get worse. He needs to get his priorities straight; the spurs or summer ball.

As far as your proposal, I would pull the trigger on it if toronto would accept.
12-16-2009
lennyalderette

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i would give parker for bosh if thats enough if not i would throw in bonner
12-16-2009
timtonymanu

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Originally Posted by lennyalderette

too many pathetic decisions from the coach is more like it!!!!!!!!!! sit their asses down if they play like shit!! moron! dont remove players that get you back in the game! pop is a smart guy, but as of late his decisions on rotations and lineups are just plain stupid!!!

i didnt see anything wrong with pop subbing out the guys that brought us back. TP and RJ needed to get into rythm and i rather see TP and RJ finish a game than Hill and Mason. TP and RJ just sucked tonight. Not Pop's fault.
12-16-2009
Sean Cagney

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Originally Posted by timtonymanu

i didnt see anything wrong with pop subbing out the guys that brought us back. TP and RJ needed to get into rythm and i rather see TP and RJ finish a game than Hill and Mason. TP and RJ just sucked tonight. Not Pop's fault.

No you ride the hot hand that gets you back in it and roll with it, he doesn't do that as of late and rides some too long that are not doing jack and it loses games! Thats the problem lately, Pop just subs someone who does shyt and leaves them in there too long and we lose or lose a lead. RJ and Hill got it done tonight, Blair too, he should have left them in longer with TD.
12-16-2009
TJastal

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Originally Posted by Sean Cagney

No you ride the hot hand that gets you back in it and roll with it, he doesn't do that as of late and rides some too long that are not doing jack and it loses games! Thats the problem lately, Pop just subs someone who does shyt and leaves them in there too long and we lose or lose a lead. RJ and Hill got it done tonight, Blair too, he should have left them in longer with TD.

RJ? Don't u mean RMJ?
12-16-2009
senorglory

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Originally Posted by SinBAD

In other words manu, RJ and parker.What will pop do about it??He is starting to boil.he's never used the word pathetic before.

''I thought Phoenix did a great job coming out aggressively and keeping the aggressiveness for 48 minutes. We had too many pathetic games from too many people. You can't do that against a team like Phoenix,'' San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich said.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/bas...#ixzz0Zq98PqQm

Man, that is harsh.
12-16-2009
senorglory

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Originally Posted by 21_Blessings

Screw the regular season. Phil versus Pop 1v1 for the WCF title.

This makes alot of sense. I like it.
12-16-2009
timaios

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Originally Posted by Indazone

Calderon is the consumate point guard. Great court vision and assists. He'd actually be better for the Spurs than anyone else.

2009-10 ASSISTS LEADERS : Assists Per Game

11 Tony Parker 30.9 min 6.2 apg
12 Jose Calderon 31.1 min 6.2 apg

http://www.nba.com/statistics/player...Y&season=22009
12-16-2009
senorglory

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Originally Posted by Ice009

What would you offer for Bosh if you were putting together a package?

I'm not in favor of any trades, and like the team we have now, but...

anyone but Duncan and Parker. Picks and cash, too.
12-16-2009
Ice009

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Originally Posted by senorglory

I'm not in favor of any trades, and like the team we have now, but...

anyone but Duncan and Parker. Picks and cash, too.

For fucks sake this actual time it was just a hypothetical trade. Bosh is a great player and I think would fit well with Duncan. I was just curious what people would trade for him.

Why is everyone taking it so seriously?

I would like a trade, but I have not pushed for a trade since SJAX was available. I don't like anyone else or what we would have to give up to get anyone else as good as SJAX, that is unless someone wanted to salary dump us a good player ;).

I would have even traded RJ for SJAX a few weeks ago while people around here were saying that RJ will start playing better.
12-16-2009
senorglory

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Originally Posted by Ice009

For fucks sake this actual time it was just a hypothetical trade. Bosh is a great player and I think would fit well with Duncan. I was just curious what people would trade for him.

Why is everyone taking it so seriously?

I would like a trade, but I have not pushed for a trade since SJAX was available. I don't like anyone else or what we would have to give up to get anyone else as good as SJAX, that is unless someone wanted to salary dump us a good player ;).

I would have even traded RJ for SJAX a few weeks ago while people around here were saying that RJ will start playing better.

Yeah, man, hypothetically, I get it; and to get Bosh, I'm all-in for a trade that includes anyone but Duncan and Parker, picks and cash available too. Putting Bosh next to Duncan via trade would be up there with Garnett to Celtics, Gasol to Lakers. With an able bodied all-star in the front court next to Duncan, we'd be like the Spurs of '99, only better, cause instead of over-achieving Avery, we'd have 2007 Finals MVP Parker.
12-16-2009
Xylus

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I expected Tony Parker to destroy the Suns tonight. Kept waiting, kept waiting... and it never happened. Bizarre, too, since the Suns didn't exactly play suffocating D. Dude must have had his dick sucked just minutes prior to the game.
12-16-2009
TDMVPDPOY

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randolf is on the blocks apparently...should strike a deal for him....
12-16-2009
Ice009

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Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY

randolf is on the blocks apparently...should strike a deal for him....

Zack Randolph?
12-16-2009
Xylus

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Originally Posted by Ice009

Zack Randolph?

I think he meant Anthony.
12-16-2009
Chieflion

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Hell, Zach Randolph would be good too. He is doing everything for the Grizzlies and is not even a ball-hog.
12-16-2009
Danny.Zhu

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He could have got pissed off much earlier.
12-16-2009
Josepatches_

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Originally Posted by SinBAD

team doesnt need a trade..

True.We need more than a trade to be a tittle contender.Maybe trade all players except TD,Blair and Hill
12-16-2009
VivaPopovich

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why doesn't pop shutup and take some responsibility also
12-16-2009
BillMc

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Manu wasn't horrible tonight..

There's a difference between Manu and other non-Duncan Spurs when he's in shape and he has an off game..Manu didn't shoot well tonight, but he contributed in other ways..he was making plays for others, getting rebounds, playing decent D and showing the intangibles he brings..

I've been hard on him all season, but he's gotten it together these last few games..

when guys like Tony and RJ have poor games, they don't give the team ANYTHING else..they can't make plays for others without turning it over, they're both poor defenders, they both need the ball..

+1 Billion
12-16-2009
Mal

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Originally Posted by timaios

2009-10 ASSISTS LEADERS : Assists Per Game

11 Tony Parker 30.9 min 6.2 apg
12 Jose Calderon 31.1 min 6.2 apg

http://www.nba.com/statistics/player...Y&season=22009

Look who is Jose passing to. Pussyglu, Brickgniani. 6,2 apg looks good. Raptors have no system of playing. They just go on court and improvises + Bosh with 15 FT per game. That`s all. In team with some offensive game vision Jose could get 9 apg. In Spurs pass-first PG is always welcome. Problem is that he isn`t great defender.
12-16-2009
SpurNation

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Originally Posted by Ice009

Because they could lose Bosh for nothing.

I didn't say the Spurs would ever offer this or Toronto either. All I asked is if the people in this tread would make the trade. I am curious if you would do it?

What would you offer for Bosh if you were putting together a package?

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...124967&page=10

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Originally Posted by SpurNation

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade...radeid=5318614

Parker/McDyess for Bosh. Bosh has been reportedly unhappy in Toronto. Toronto is playing under .500 ball. Maybe they do the trade maybe not.

The differentials in ppg and rebounds are a near wash with 4.9 assists fewer for the Spurs. But IMO...what Bosh brings is what the team lacks the most as far as need and that's another legitiment, athletic big that would significantly help Duncan and this team's chances at advancing in the playoffs.

I believe, with a more ball movement type of offense, the team should be able to survive the loss of Parker with Hill, Ginobili and Mason all pulling duty at the position.

Bosh is in the driver's seat next season. Toronto might feel compelled to get something for him before this season ends. That plus I don't think Parker is very happy to be on this team anymore. Parker seems to WANT to be the top option but Pop seems to be wanting to implement a different style of offense than just the Parker/Duncan duo.

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