According to ESPN.com, Detriots Pistons starting small forward is on the move.
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According to ESPN.com, Detriots Pistons starting small forward is on the move.
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Prince sucks these days. He looks broken.
No thanks, injury prone..
No. For who anyways?!
someone with insider post the article.
He is on a huge decline because of back injuries. A season or two ago I would be all over this but now... he is almost done.
I would be willing to give up Bonner, Finley or Ian if anyone else has to go...no thanks.
With his $10 million salary, Spurs would have to give up Mason.
We need another 3? We gonna put Prince on the bench then? I dunno, his contracts at 11mil. What are we trading to get him? I'm not a Prince hater, but I doubt he comes to the Spurs.
the spurs all ready have their problems we dont need more.....
I haven't watched him in a long time, but I used to like his game, so dunno how I'd feel. His contract's too hefty though...
Prince could be the new Finley.
The guy is still owed 21 million..No way, pass
Although if there was a way to get him and trade finley away then i'd take him.
Ouch. And he's due $10M this season and $11M next. I'm going to have to pass.
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Originally Posted by timvp
I think he is just discouraged, with the break up of the Pistons Squad and the team they have now.
I think a trade to a contending or at least, a playoff bound team will revitalize his game a bit! :greedy
No.
Would Pop play him if he was not in decline, probably not...too young. We only play older guys now a la Larry Brown. If Prince is not in decline he would fit perfect, doesn't need the ball to be successful. We don't have room for him because we don't like size either. We micro ball these days.
3-4 years ago yes not now
From what i've seen they all think he's a giant pussy..:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
McDyess is a keeper unless it's for another big.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
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Originally Posted by slick'81
We always get them when they are old and broken apparently.
He should atelast be better than Haislip who never plays plus he's 6'9. If they can work it out I'd pull the trigger, we have too many wings anyway. Ian is not playing so if it can be done, include Bonner, make it happen. If it doesn't workout what does it matter we don't play our guys anyway but if it does, we just broke the bank with a lineup of
Duncan
Blair
Prince
Jefferson
Parker
Ginobili
Hill
McDyess
Ratliff
Bogans
Finley
No thanks, I dont want him. He is shitty recently and too much injury risks.
John Hollinger
Prince comes with risk
"I don't think Keith Bogans is a solution as a starter and I think a healthy Prince would be a great fit in San Antonio. But they have to be careful -- like I said above, Tay's looked terrible this year and back issues are nothing to sneeze at, and adding an $11 million player for next year would almost certainly put Spurs into tax. At the very least I'd want to see how he looks over this next month, and even if he looked good I'd still be on the fence."
hes almost done...please no
Forget what I said I thought his contract was up this season:wowQuote:
Originally Posted by I Heart Ginobili
The shittier a your team is the worse the back issues seem to be.
Hell no. He sucks now.
Pull the damn trigger on this deal another person to throw at odom ,Dirk ,and kobe:ihit
I really can't see this happening. Trading expiring contracts for another $11 million next year (particularly a swingman) would all-but guarantee that Manu signs somewhere else next season.
if we could get him for "nothing" and be sure he is healthy, it would improve our team. Kobe scored a lot and at a high percentage in the first half of Tuesday's game and he wasn't even at 100%.
No
no no no no no no no no no
We could do better with a trade, and his contract is hefty
But...but... Jefferson was the answer at the 3. Why do we need another 3?
Thanks, but no thanks.
Someone please close this crappy thread.
Come on take him. We are not going any where fast Prince is dogging it because of this too.
If the spurs could get him and he's relatively healthy I wouldn't be against it at all, in fact I think he'd be a great fit actually and make the spurs a more versatile team that can match up with anyone.
I'd plug him in the starting lineup immediately for Bogans because he's a much more versatile defender against lengthy wings. Bogans would come off the bench as a situational defender (for the smaller quicker guards).
I don't know how the spurs would get him but if they did and he's healthy and rejuvenated this would help the spurs tremendously.
Would Prince fit with Spurs?
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http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba...rs/65/1724.jpgWith two young small forwards waiting in the wings -- Jonas Jerebko, Austin Daye -- it's rumored that the Pistons are actively shopping Tayshaun Prince.
They'd also perhaps like to deal Richard Hamilton, but his contract is probably too big for anyone to want to take on.
So where might Prince land? It's not quite ideal, but ESPN's John Hollinger fielded a question today in his chat about the possibility of him being traded to the Spurs.
Take it away, Mr. Hollinger.
If you really want him gone see if he wants to win badly enough that he's ready to accept a buyout; then we'll take him at the vet minimum after we make another two-for-one trade somewhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinnie_Johnson
Otherwise, no.
Hollinger again, garbage trade proposal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fdawg07
Even if the Spurs add a 3, it should be a tweener for the SF/PF position, to back up RJ, not to have one competing for a starting spot.
That was the whole point Hollinger was making was to get a replacement for Bogans as a starting 2. Prince is versatile enough of a player to play 2/3/4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chieflion
I wouldn't want to see a brokeback playing for the Spurs. Prince playing the 4 is like me going to the NBA, we would get our bones snapped.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
At what cost? The last thing the spurs need is another guy who's injury prone. Who would the spurs move to pick him up? Do you think Bogans is the Spurs biggest weakness?Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Chieflion
Back problems should be a red flag for the spurs
Regarding making a trade...I would hope they could do better than this. I just can't see how Prince would make that much of a difference towards helping the team win a title.
No thanks, this guy's more finished than Jefferson.
prince is overrated defensively and offensively. spurs can do much better finding a defensive wing.
Bonner, Finley, Mason Jr would work. All expiring deals. Much as I hate losing Roger and losing his bench punch, Tayshaun in the starting lineup is a gargantuan improvement over Bogans.Quote:
Originally Posted by murpjf88
Bogans is doing just fine as our starter, Hollinger doesn't watch enough SPurs games.
Except for the fact that the only teams he can shoot against are the ones sporting losing records. Get past that little detail and yah he's doing great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supergirl
:lol
Is Hollinger in danger of losing his job at ESPN?
Sounds like he is auditioning for Hoopsworld. :lol
I implied the financial issues earlier; now I'll state them explicitly. Here's what the Spurs contract situation looks like next year if you get Prince for expirings:Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
Duncan: $18.8 million
Jefferson: $15.2 million
Parker: $13.7 million
Prince: $11.1 million
McDyess: $4.8 million
Blair: $918,000
Hill: $854,389
That's $65.4 million on 7 guys. The highest the luxury tax threshold is expected to be next season is $65 million. That means unless you sign 5 other players to minimum contracts, you can wave Manu Ginobili goodbye (and even then it might be iffy). Also, hard to imagine being willing to pay even $5 million (much less $7-10 mil) for another wing player when you've got $26+ mil wrapped up in 2 guys.
Wait, so the whole rumor is based on someone asking Hollinger in chat whether the Spurs would want him? WTF? :rollin
Prince will be a better "PF" in Pop's small ball lineup.
Give Manu an less than market value offer and explain why. I know it sounds bad but if he wants to retire a spur I would bet he'd take less $$ for the better chance to win another couple titles.Quote:
Originally Posted by lurker23
I dont think the spurs got Bogans to be a scorer...The guy only gets a shade over 1mil and is already the best perimeter defensive player on the spurs. I'd say for the $, bogans is a steal..Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
Yah, but that's why Matt Bonner was put on the bench, because he can't play defense to save his life. Bogans is the opposite, the spurs won't go far in the playoffs if he's putting up 1-7 type nights consistently.Quote:
Originally Posted by yavozerb
Bogans isn't the answer as a starter IMO, but Prince isn't a guy I'm interested in..
I know, right? I feel sorry for those who waste their time and money on ESPN Insider.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Why not? He's around 29-30 which is perfect age. He has enough experince to quickly step in and help but not too old and brittle yet (like Jefferson).Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
He's extremely versatile and would enable Pop to run many different lineups. He's an athletic and long defender who can impact a game many ways.
With that contract? I'll pass.
Might he have just become brittle with this injury?Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
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Originally Posted by TJastal
Tayshaun Prince: Born February 28, 1980
Richard Jefferson: Born June 21, 1980
I guess you skipped every other post ahead yours indicating all of the injury problems he has had and the 20+ mil still owed.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
That was my point, he's like Jefferson in that regard. A great basketball age where maximum NBA experience meets the start of athletic decline.Quote:
Originally Posted by lurker23
Could he pass a physical?
Obviously I would like Prince if we knew he was healthy..he's long, a great 1 on 1 defender, and he gives Kobe problems, which would obviously benefit us..but just like most others in this thread have said, he's already broken down and it doesn't look good for the rest of his career..
gumby is not worth over $10 mil per year. i'll pass
Sorry, I misread your intent as "he's not old and brittle (like Jefferson is)."Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
Prince is not worth 10-11 million.
I agree with Harlem though, Spurs need to upgrade the 2 spot with a more all around player. Only if we could integrate Bogans and Mason into one player.
I did qualify my opinion by saying IF he can get get healthy and stay healthy for the two years and play at the level that has made him a star he could help out.Quote:
Originally Posted by yavozerb
I did a little research .. found out he had a ruptured disc in his lower back earlier this year.
I'd take Prince over Jefferson, after what I've seen from Jefferson so far. But if it means not leaving enough $ to resign Manu, then forget it.
I'm a HUGE Prince fan, playing for a contender again, I think you'd find he would step his game back up. I also think that the current Pistons line-up doesn't really compliment his game.
If he takes a buyout and signs, it's a no brainer.
Why do the Spurs love going after shitty overpaid SF? 14M for Dick now 10+M for Prince. :lmao What a joke.
He can't "step his game up" for a contender if he's having big injury problems..it's physically impossible..
learn to read. they are not going after him read what hollinger wrote....:toastQuote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Bynum
Too expensive and too broken but I'm a big fan, he is a very very clever player. I think pop would love to have this kind of player but not this year.
I don't approve of trading for anything short of a true big (6'10 or above) who can excel on the defensive end. Even then, don't know; depends on who we would give up.
So :td to a Prince acquisition thru trade.
if the spurs can do that, i rather they put bonner in mahinmi's body. or maybe blair in mahinmi's body... oh oh oh duncan in mahinmi's body :wowQuote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
:rolleyes:rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
The better chance to win another couple of rings in the next 3 years isn't here.Duncan isn't going to be as great forever.IMo this year is our last chance in more than a couple of years.
We needed the best PF of the history to win the first tittle in 25 years so if we are realistic it's going to be hard to win more tittles.See what happen in Houston after Olajuwon even when they were lucky in the NBA draft.What can I say of Chicago even when they had 2 first pick in the NBA draft (Brand & Rose)
There are not a lot of Duncans.We were lucky to have him here.
Prince looks washed up this year. And doesn't he have a bad back?
So no Prince (salary way too high for an injured player, I'd rather have Caron Butler at that price).
No Battier (Rockets won't give him up, though they have a lot of SF's);
who should we (could we) get to replace Bogans as the starter?
All I can think of is Salmons, but I don't know if the Bulls would part with him.
Maybe Hairston will blow up in Austin and they'll give him more play with the Spurs; he already knows the system and would adjust more quickly.
Hairston isn't going to get a chance this year..
a deal for Salmons/Thomas would fill in 2 needs..
I'd still rather get a big over anything else though..
precisely. people's complaints about him are the same they had about Bowen. Now that Bowen's gone, people have conveniently forgotten they complained about him, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by yavozerb
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Originally Posted by Josepatches_
epic post.
Exactly. ESPN "reports" Prince is being shopped, then slips in the fact that some random fan asked Hollinger (of all people) if he would fit on the Spurs. ESPN has no journalistic integrity at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
A bad defensive player who can't shoot?Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Actually, it does kind of sound like Prince.
ehhh..... hope it doesnt happen, but if it does I'd welcome him. Nothing us fans can do about it except support the team.
If it happens, Ideally keep him on the sidelines until he recovers and hope he steps it up come playoffs.
again, hope it doesnt happen.
The type of mileage he's got would make a pornstar blush; Manu's already got that covered..
Sefolosha looked pretty good as a defender last night, though I doubt the Thunder would part with him (and I know nothing of the rest of his game).
I guess it is true that Bogans is a really good deal, and any offense we get from him is a bonus.
No, but thanks.