Rumor: Tayshaun Prince to the SPURS?

its not a rumor if the "rumor" was a question from an internet q&a session. Prince aint happening

Sefolosha is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league and, seemingly at least, a key cog to Presti's program moving forward; he's basically their Bowen. I don't see him going anywhere..

The Thunder actually remind me a bit of the Jordan Bulls in the way they're able to defend and play interchangeable roles on both ends. I just don't see the need for the dominant post-scorer some have mentioned. I'd either hope Krstic could be a Purdue/Wennington/Longley-type or go the Chandler route they almost went before being scared off by the physical; Presti's definitely got something going there..

Tay to the Spurs? I don't see it. Don't see any pieces Joe would want to take in exchange. And doing a quick browse through this thread, it looks like this is just some garbage Hollinger threw against the wall anyway. No substance.

But I do expect Tay to be dealt. Dumars finally came out today and made a few comments that he will look at possible trade options before the deadline.

I'll go ahead and play Hollingers game though. Would he fit on the Spurs? Sure he would. Mostly because of his IQ. He was/is the smartest player the Pistons had during our run. He'd also be a favorite of Pop's because of his versatility. He can play 4 positions. Very good in the point forward role. He'd love him for his small ball lineups. He can hit the open 3 that is a staple of Spurs ball. He can back players down and hit his lefty hook in the middle of the lane. He's a great finisher on the break.

Another key for the Spurs with Tay, is that he is a role player. He'd be a great 3rd or 4th option behind the Spurs key players. The mistake many have made ... myself included ... was having too high expectations. After his 2nd or 3rd year we kept expecting him to develop into something more. But really he sort of plateaued, but stayed very consistent. He is who he is. When we needed him at times in the post season to be more of a first or second option, he struggled. Missed open shot after open shot. Some of that is due to him constantly covering the primary scorer. He expends a ton of energy on the defensive side, and he's not really great at any one thing offensively as it is. Versatile, yes. But no real go to ability that is going to more often than not equate into points.

He got far too much hype for 'the block'. It seems like Doug Collins mentions it in every game he covers. So in some regards he is over-rated. And he may not completely be worth his contract. But I also don't think it's all that unreasonable. He's a good defender overall. Works hard and uses his length and smarts well. But he's not a shut-down type of guy. He was at his best defensively when a dominant Ben Wallace controlled the lane. As long as there was a no fly zone, and players were forced to be more perimeter oriented against us he was able to smother players at times with those go go gadget arms. But once Ben left, the red carpet was put out for players to drive the lane against us. It was easier to go through Prince when there was no one helping out. Not to mention his slim frame giving him difficulties against thicker SF's like Lebron and Pierce who he faced so much ... especially in the playoffs. If the team defense can keep guys out of the paint, Tay is a great man defender. But without that deterrent, he's just slightly above average.

He's got alot of miles on his legs for only being 29. We never had a legitimate backup for him, and coaches loved his IQ and versatility so much that they always wanted him on the floor. It'd be good for anyone that had him to try to limit his minutes to 30 or less. I'm a big Tay fan. But maybe it's time for him to go. He might do well with a change. It may re-invigorate him to go to a new city and accept a new challenge. He brings a lot to a team IMO.

And all this 'Tay is done' and 'broke down' talk is silly. Prior to this years ruptured disk that came out of no where, he held the active record for consecutive games played. 6 straight years of playing 82 games + an ungodly number of playoff games. And I remember them saying, last year or the year before, something about no player has played in more post season games in their first xx-number of years in the L. He's been incredibly healthy and extremely consistent up to this point in his career. You always know what you're going to get from Prince. 14pts 5rbs 3asts 45.00FG% 35.003PTFG% and he'll guard the main scorer of the opposing team.

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Originally Posted by Pistons < Spurs

Tay to the Spurs? I don't see it. Don't see any pieces Joe would want to take in exchange. And doing a quick browse through this thread, it looks like this is just some garbage Hollinger threw against the wall anyway. No substance.

But I do expect Tay to be dealt. Dumars finally came out today and made a few comments that he will look at possible trade options before the deadline.

I'll go ahead and play Hollingers game though. Would he fit on the Spurs? Sure he would. Mostly because of his IQ. He was/is the smartest player the Pistons had during our run. He'd also be a favorite of Pop's because of his versatility. He can play 4 positions. Very good in the point forward role. He'd love him for his small ball lineups. He can hit the open 3 that is a staple of Spurs ball. He can back players down and hit his lefty hook in the middle of the lane. He's a great finisher on the break.

Another key for the Spurs with Tay, is that he is a role player. He'd be a great 3rd or 4th option behind the Spurs key players. The mistake many have made ... myself included ... was having too high expectations. After his 2nd or 3rd year we kept expecting him to develop into something more. But really he sort of plateaued, but stayed very consistent. He is who he is. When we needed him at times in the post season to be more of a first or second option, he struggled. Missed open shot after open shot. Some of that is due to him constantly covering the primary scorer. He expends a ton of energy on the defensive side, and he's not really great at any one thing offensively as it is. Versatile, yes. But no real go to ability that is going to more often than not equate into points.

He got far too much hype for 'the block'. It seems like Doug Collins mentions it in every game he covers. So in some regards he is over-rated. And he may not completely be worth his contract. But I also don't think it's all that unreasonable. He's a good defender overall. Works hard and uses his length and smarts well. But he's not a shut-down type of guy. He was at his best defensively when a dominant Ben Wallace controlled the lane. As long as there was a no fly zone, and players were forced to be more perimeter oriented against us he was able to smother players at times with those go go gadget arms. But once Ben left, the red carpet was put out for players to drive the lane against us. It was easier to go through Prince when there was no one helping out. Not to mention his slim frame giving him difficulties against thicker SF's like Lebron and Pierce who he faced so much ... especially in the playoffs. If the team defense can keep guys out of the paint, Tay is a great man defender. But without that deterrent, he's just slightly above average.

He's got alot of miles on his legs for only being 29. We never had a legitimate backup for him, and coaches loved his IQ and versatility so much that they always wanted him on the floor. It'd be good for anyone that had him to try to limit his minutes to 30 or less. I'm a big Tay fan. But maybe it's time for him to go. He might do well with a change. It may re-invigorate him to go to a new city and accept a new challenge. He brings a lot to a team IMO.

And all this 'Tay is done' and 'broke down' talk is silly. Prior to this years ruptured disk that came out of no where, he held the active record for consecutive games played. 6 straight years of playing 82 games + an ungodly number of playoff games. And I remember them saying, last year or the year before, something about no player has played in more post season games in their first xx-number of years in the L. He's been incredibly healthy and extremely consistent up to this point in his career. You always know what you're going to get from Prince. 14pts 5rbs 3asts 45.00FG% 35.003PTFG% and he'll guard the main scorer of the opposing team.

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Damn.

I agree with just about everything you posted. My concern is the mileage he's had, which you rightly noted, and that this ruptured disc is only a sign of things to come; he's looked worn down the last two years come the playoffs.

I obviously don't get to see him on a consistent basis and am forced to make a judgment from what I've seen and the current state he's in; there's no doubt he'd be a great fit if the Spurs were getting a 'whole' player. If a change of scenery is all he would need to be reinvigorated and get back to the player he was, I'd seriously entertain taking on the salary; after I'd exhausted opportunities to address more glaring needs, that is..

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Originally Posted by Spursmania

We always get them when they are old and broken apparently.

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Once again, a move that's a couple of years too late.

What's next? Lindsay Hunter and Jerry Stackhouse?

Can't add much more to what P<S said, he basically summed it all up. Now for all the Spurs fans who are saying we want something better well most teams won't give up their good players just for the hell of it.

If I were the Spurs I might take the risk because the team might be able to have a serious chance to beat L.A. with Tayshaun. I don't know why the Pistons would do this trade though.

Draft picks-Spurs always have a good record

Dejuan Blair-first of all Spurs wouldn't do this but the Pistons already have a bunch of tough,undersized big men.

Like most of you have said though...this is Hollinger speaking.

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

The thing is that ever since David Robinson the Spurs are always careful or try to avoid players with back issues.

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The FO would be better off avoiding players with injury and age issues.

The salary issues alone make it look out of the question. But suppose we did find a way to bring him here. Next year we would be looking for some way to get out from under his $11M contract. Maybe we could send him to Houston along with the rights to Tiago Splitter in exchange for Yao Ming who will be moving back to China?

Nahhh... nothing like that could ever happen.

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Originally Posted by DynastySpurs210

According to ESPN.com, Detriots Pistons starting small forward is on the move.

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HEY HEY! (there's way too many pages but good guess tells me what I'm gonna write hasn't been discussed)

If we're quoting ESPN.com we have to do a better job than copying a title from the Rumor page. The rumor page sometimes has real news items in their infancy but sometimes it's pure bullshit.

This little rumor was taken from a fan mail sent to John Hollinger. A fan in Houston, Texas asked John Hollinger if Prince could get to the Spurs because he was tired of Pop acting like Keith Bogans is the second coming of Bruce Bowen.

John Hollinger wrote that he didn't think Bogans works as a starter, Prince's salary won't work, and his injuries are red flags.

This in no way means there is talk of trading for Tayshaun Prince. John Hollinger is an analyst. A Random fan in Houston is simply a fan sending a fan mail. There is no report of anyone from Detroit or San Antonio's organizations considering any transactions involving Prince, Bogans, or anyone.

Do yourself a favor and drop this nonsense. It's not worth your time.

I hope you bums get him. Another guy past his prime Pop's going to fall in love with.

go for Rip hamilton instead of tayshaun

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Originally Posted by spurs_philippines

go for Rip hamilton instead of tayshaun

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Have you seen his contract? Fuck no.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Prince sucks these days. He looks broken.

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Perhaps moving to a contender is exactly what the doctor ordered?

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Originally Posted by 024

if the spurs can do that, i rather they put bonner in mahinmi's body. or maybe blair in mahinmi's body... oh oh oh duncan in mahinmi's body :wow

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Duncan's brain in Mahinmi's body? Yeah, thats full of win. :tu

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Originally Posted by Pistons < Spurs

Tay to the Spurs? I don't see it. Don't see any pieces Joe would want to take in exchange. And doing a quick browse through this thread, it looks like this is just some garbage Hollinger threw against the wall anyway. No substance.

But I do expect Tay to be dealt. Dumars finally came out today and made a few comments that he will look at possible trade options before the deadline.

I'll go ahead and play Hollingers game though. Would he fit on the Spurs? Sure he would. Mostly because of his IQ. He was/is the smartest player the Pistons had during our run. He'd also be a favorite of Pop's because of his versatility. He can play 4 positions. Very good in the point forward role. He'd love him for his small ball lineups. He can hit the open 3 that is a staple of Spurs ball. He can back players down and hit his lefty hook in the middle of the lane. He's a great finisher on the break.

Another key for the Spurs with Tay, is that he is a role player. He'd be a great 3rd or 4th option behind the Spurs key players. The mistake many have made ... myself included ... was having too high expectations. After his 2nd or 3rd year we kept expecting him to develop into something more. But really he sort of plateaued, but stayed very consistent. He is who he is. When we needed him at times in the post season to be more of a first or second option, he struggled. Missed open shot after open shot. Some of that is due to him constantly covering the primary scorer. He expends a ton of energy on the defensive side, and he's not really great at any one thing offensively as it is. Versatile, yes. But no real go to ability that is going to more often than not equate into points.

He got far too much hype for 'the block'. It seems like Doug Collins mentions it in every game he covers. So in some regards he is over-rated. And he may not completely be worth his contract. But I also don't think it's all that unreasonable. He's a good defender overall. Works hard and uses his length and smarts well. But he's not a shut-down type of guy. He was at his best defensively when a dominant Ben Wallace controlled the lane. As long as there was a no fly zone, and players were forced to be more perimeter oriented against us he was able to smother players at times with those go go gadget arms. But once Ben left, the red carpet was put out for players to drive the lane against us. It was easier to go through Prince when there was no one helping out. Not to mention his slim frame giving him difficulties against thicker SF's like Lebron and Pierce who he faced so much ... especially in the playoffs. If the team defense can keep guys out of the paint, Tay is a great man defender. But without that deterrent, he's just slightly above average.

He's got alot of miles on his legs for only being 29. We never had a legitimate backup for him, and coaches loved his IQ and versatility so much that they always wanted him on the floor. It'd be good for anyone that had him to try to limit his minutes to 30 or less. I'm a big Tay fan. But maybe it's time for him to go. He might do well with a change. It may re-invigorate him to go to a new city and accept a new challenge. He brings a lot to a team IMO.

And all this 'Tay is done' and 'broke down' talk is silly. Prior to this years ruptured disk that came out of no where, he held the active record for consecutive games played. 6 straight years of playing 82 games + an ungodly number of playoff games. And I remember them saying, last year or the year before, something about no player has played in more post season games in their first xx-number of years in the L. He's been incredibly healthy and extremely consistent up to this point in his career. You always know what you're going to get from Prince. 14pts 5rbs 3asts 45.00FG% 35.003PTFG% and he'll guard the main scorer of the opposing team.

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Didn't LeBron walk all over Tayshaun in recent matchups? If someone is going to guard the best player on the other team I'd rather them be competent.

This isn't even a rumor. It was merely a fan's question.

I could ask Hollinger if the Spurs are trading Matt Bonner for Karl Malone. Would that make it a rumor?

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