Small ball = LOSS

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

I didn't base my judgment of Haislip on how he looked tonight..I didn't judge him in preseason based on his shooting or how he looked within the team..

I didn't really care that he was missing, that shit happens, guys go through slumps..my problem with him in preseason was that he was physically overmatched by all of the post players that he was guarding, they were pushing him around with ease..when he was guarding on the perimeter he was getting torched as well..he blocks some shots once in a while, I'll give him credit there..

His problem offensively is that he doesn't shoot well enough to make him a legit 3-point shooting big man and he was also having trouble dribbling past his opponent every time and he has no post up game at all..if you have those types of problems, you better be around the mid 40s in 3PT% to have an impact in this league, which is why Bonner gets PT..so his only hope of playing on this team would be to play ahead of Bonner, and he doesn't do anything better than Bonner other than dunk..

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Anthony Tolliver 2.0

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Haislip goes in the deep freeze until he's traded or maybe "gets it" next season.

Ian is doing ok, but he's not going to make his teammates hit open shots tonight.

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But he helps protect the rim and keeps the spurs in the game with his defense.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

-Horrible effort..
-Shots not going down..
-No energy players to come in when the team was clearly sleepwalking..

I've never even asked for Haislip to play once this year, just before anybody says that..I've been saying he's horrible since preseason..

he clearly should play Ian or Ratliff more though, they're both high-energy guys that spark the team..as for who they were going to guard, did it matter in the end?..Diaw was torching everybody, small and big..

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I agree totally, small ball, big ball, blue ball wouldn't have made any difference. Our main 3 guys couldn't even stay on thier feet they kept falling down and turning over the ball. Every one but Blair followed suit.

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Originally Posted by timvp

The Spurs have been playing a lot of small ball since Bonner's injury.

Fail thread.

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sometimes it can work for small stretches...but thats it. and there hasnt been as much small ball lately as there was today....during the third quarter(we were in the game up to then), pop went almost the whole quarter with a sub 6-7 lineup and it was exactly during that time than we went from being down 2 to being down 13-15 (game over).

no coincidence, as in that stretch they 'just happened' to dominate us in the paint and on the boards.

pop didnt put in tim or anyone tall until we were in a 15 point hole.

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Originally Posted by TJastal

But he helps protect the rim and keeps the spurs in the game with his defense.

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I said he's doing fine.

Would you say the Spurs hit more or fewer open shots than usual?

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

I didn't base my judgment of Haislip on how he looked tonight..I didn't judge him in preseason based on his shooting or how he looked within the team..

I didn't really care that he was missing, that shit happens, guys go through slumps..my problem with him in preseason was that he was physically overmatched by all of the post players that he was guarding, they were pushing him around with ease..when he was guarding on the perimeter he was getting torched as well..he blocks some shots once in a while, I'll give him credit there..

His problem offensively is that he doesn't shoot well enough to make him a legit 3-point shooting big man and he was also having trouble dribbling past his opponent every time and he has no post up game at all..if you have those types of problems, you better be around the mid 40s in 3PT% to have an impact in this league, which is why Bonner gets PT..so his only hope of playing on this team would be to play ahead of Bonner, and he doesn't do anything better than Bonner other than dunk..

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Guy has played a total of 30 minutes so far this year. He was 3-3 from the arc coming into this game. Too small of a sample size to make a judgement.

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Originally Posted by poop

sometimes it can work for small stretches...but thats it. and there hasnt been as much small ball lately as there was today....during the third quarter(we were in the game up to then), pop went almost the whole quarter with a sub 6-7 lineup and it was exactly during that time than we went from being down 2 to being down 13-15 (game over).

no coincidence, as in that stretch they 'just happened' to dominate us in the paint and on the boards.

pop didnt put in tim or anyone tall until we were in a 15 point hole.

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Its been played for long stretches.

Miss the Thunder and Laker games?

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Originally Posted by TJastal

Guy has played a total of 30 minutes so far this year. He was 3-3 from the arc coming into this game. Too small of a sample size to make a judgement.

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General Custard

Stop.

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Originally Posted by EricB

Anthony Tolliver 2.0

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I think I'd like him better than Haislip at this point. He's been working on other parts of his game.

The Spurs would have lost either way based on how the big3+1 played, but Pop SHOULD have brought in Ian or Ratliff when it was clear that the team was sleepwalking..it doesn't even have to be for their skills, at least just to provide energy, which helps teams all the time..

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

The Spurs would have lost either way based on how the big3+1 played, but Pop SHOULD have brought in Ian or Ratliff when it was clear that the team was sleepwalking..it doesn't even have to be for their skills, at least just to provide energy, which helps teams all the time..

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That's what Haislip was supposed to do tonight.

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Originally Posted by EricB

General Custard

Stop.

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eh? Can't handle logic huh

Tolliver was a nice passer

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

That's what Haislip was supposed to do tonight.

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When the lead was double-digits with 8 minutes left in the 4th?..

They were sleepwalking waaay before that..

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

That's what Haislip was supposed to do tonight.

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I don't think that's a good situation for him, ice cold until a few minutes gone by in the 4th, down double digits. What were they, down 13, 15?

No matter who, be it Ratliff, Ian, or MH, they could have been used for energy in the change-up in the first half, when the Spurs were just as sloppy and listless but were just hitting jumpers they'd later miss.

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Originally Posted by TJastal

eh? Can't handle logic huh

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No, look in the mirror when you say that.

Haislip. Stinks. accept it, move on.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

When the lead was double-digits with 8 minutes left in the 4th?..

They were sleepwalking waaay before that..

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13 point lead at 9:16 that Haislip brought down to 11 eight seconds later.

Too bad he sucked horribly after that.

Pop hasn't figured this out yet. It's like he's trying to dispel everything people have thought of the Spurs to be and show that he's a versatile coach or something. Either that, or he thinks he's coaching the re-incarnation of the mid-decade Suns. Someone needs to enlighten him so that he realizes that (athletically) Duncan isn't Stoudemire, (style-wise) Jefferson isn't Marion and (style-wise) Parker isn't Nash. The Spurs are built differently (thankfully) and as such should be playing to their strengths. What's most baffling about this is Pop coached the very team that repeatedly snuffed out the Suns attempts to win a championship playing that way. Yet, despite all this evidence that suggests that the Spurs should not be playing small, Pop inexplicably is.

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Originally Posted by objective

I don't think that's a good situation for him, ice cold until a few minutes gone by in the 4th, down double digits. What were they, down 13, 15?

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Then waive him. He won't be of any use if he isn't ready to play.

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Originally Posted by EricB

Its been played for long stretches.

Miss the Thunder and Laker games?

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the lakers game there was ALWAYS a true big or two in the game...in fact pop pulled blair early on because the lakers have too much size and length. if not tim we had mcdyess and raliff in there at least. and for OKC, their interior is very weak so Blair sufficed. in tonights game they have big strong guys down lowand all-round more athletic players and pop played two 6-7 guys inside the entire 3rd hence them getting rebounds and getting to the line by simply pushing it inside where there was no one to contest .

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Originally Posted by EricB

General Custard

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Custer.

also ...Haislip should be the LAST guy off the bench..hes clearly the most raw guy on the team. Ratliff and mahinmi should have been in there much earlier.

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Originally Posted by EricB

No, look in the mirror when you say that.

Haislip. Stinks. accept it, move on.

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Bogans. Stinks. accept it, move on.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Then waive him. He won't be of any use if he isn't ready to play.

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waiving him is fine by me.

But having a team play sloppy and listless the entire game and wait until 9 minutes left down double digits to go to an out-of-rotation player for a game winning spark is a questionable coaching decision.

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Originally Posted by objective

waiving him is fine by me.

But having a team play sloppy and listless the entire game and wait until 9 minutes left down double digits to go to an out-of-rotation player for a game changing spark is a questionable coaching decision.

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Yes, you're better than Pop.

You're all better.

Send in your resumes.

I just think the players should play better. I certainly can't play better than they can.