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Having him in the game could possibly help the Spurs not to settle for a thousand outside jump shots, though. Missing jumpers is a sign of tired legs, so maybe shortening up the rotation the other night while Duncan rested instead of playing Ian caught up on them. In short, there's no sound logic behind his not getting minutes at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
See "tired legs".Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
If they can't recover with a day's rest, they should all be waived.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
See "waive them all."Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Timmy didn't seem to recover despite the extra rest everyone else didn't get, so Pop's plan seems to have extra helpings of fail, much like most of your posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Some people are taking this criticism for pop too far. Some of you act like the players are 24-0 while Pop is 0-14. Pop never gets credit for the win, but he's always the first one being blamed for the loss. Is it Pops fault the spurs can't sink open shots? NO! Is it Pops fault the Spurs are throwing the ball all over the court? NO! Is it Pops fault bogans is on the damn court? YES! In other words, the player should be held accountable for their own actions. This was an ugly, UGLY basketball game.
So playing anyone who didn't play wouldn't have made any difference since every player who did or didn't play was tired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
More great logic from you. :tu
Ian could have hit those 20 missed threes tonight! He had fresh legs! But he was still tired because he didn't play!
I know a strawman is the only one you have a shot against, but he's kickin' your ass again. You've suggested over the last few posts that everyone on the team should be released, including Tim Duncan. Not really the best time to be calling someone out on their logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Teams that are tired settle for jumpers rather than going inside.
Teams with tired legs miss jumpers.
Teams that have to play overtime games without a superstar on a shortened rotation get tired.
Ian's not only not tired, he can score inside, limiting the number of jumpers the team takes.
Any of this starting to get through?
Sarcasm FAQ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
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Teams that are tired settle for jumpers rather than going inside.
Teams with tired legs miss jumpers.
Teams that have to play overtime games without a superstar on a shortened rotation get tired.
Ian's not only not tired, he can score inside, limiting the number of jumpers the team takes.
Any of this starting to get through?
The Bobcats were much better than the rested Spurs tonight.
Ian would not have saved them.
I tend to agree with Obstructed_View on this.
Pop's decision to hold Duncan out of the thunder game seems to have had the opposite effect intended for Tim Duncan. He seemed slow and lethargic.. he had too much rest IMO.
And it was plainly obvious the rest of the team was mentally and physically exhausted by that game they would most likely have coasted to victory if Duncan plays his usual 20-25 minutes.
Sounds like the whole team sucked tonight. I can understand a couple of players having a bad game...but the whole team?
Sometimes there are games like this during the season. What I can't understand is how?
IMO...in situations like this...it's everyone's fault on the team...players and coaches.
Meh...it's done...time to move on.
look just cause pops a stubborn old fart doesnt mean he all of a sudden sucks at what hes doing!! believe me i get super furious when he insists on playing our worst defenders on the leagues best scorers, esp during critical game time. but he does something we dont do here at spurs talk, he has an over all goal already, whatever the hell that is im sure he has a good reason for it so you gotta have some faith, i think hes got so much pressure to make it work he isnt going to make a stupid move purposely!!! theres too much money riding on this team, and you know pop once he lets go of a player they no longer exist so he is prob making sure he know what everyone is capable of.and by the way i think he should play haislip and mahinmi a shit load more!!!! they would have helped out if they had some nba exp. by now, i mean i dont understand that
An interesting stat is the evolution of the minutes percentage played by Spurs with a small ball lineup (1 big and 4 small) during the past few years:
04-05: 8.1%
05-06: 9.6%
06-07: 13.7%
07-08: 27.4%
08-09: 21.7%
09-10: 24.6%
That's a quite significant raise. Spurs are now a team that plays about a quarter per game with a small ball lineup.
Pop has simply changed his philosophy regarding playing small.
In the past, it was a last resort option. A player was destroying our bigmen and Spurs had to go small.
Now, It's a common solution. As soon as Pop saw a bigman with some mobility (like a fat Diaw), he goes small. Pop seems fine with playing small.
I'm not against Spurs playing small in some specific cases but a quarter per game is way too much. To me, it's a sign of a ill Spurs' team.
Yes, I love the stat work too, Bruno. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
It's a good bet the # of points in the paint the team is giving up is increasing in similar fashion.
No, it isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
Uh, okay. My eyes tell me differently, but if you say so, your the stat guy. If the spurs aren't giving up easy points in the paint with small-ball then how is it a sign of an ill spurs team?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
Those numbers are very telling. It's probably safe to assume that a championship is out of the question this year if Pop is going to continue going to small ball as much as your statistics indicate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
I haven't full stats of points in the paint but the few I get didn't show it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
It could be explained by the sample size. When Spurs goes from playing 10% to 25% of small ball, it means that they still play 85% of their minutes whit the same lineup than before and goes 15% of their minutes from big to small ball lineup. Even if they are doing significantly worse at defending the paint during these 15%, it's hidden with a small change during the other 85% of the minutes.
Well this year the team hasn't been lay-up city like the last 2 or 3 seasons. I don't know if it's Tim with Blair or what. But last year there were so many games where people just kept getting to the rim effortlessly this year it is different.
i gotta say, Chumper Dump is maybe the most smug ass douchebag on this site, and is a complete moron as well.
This was just one of those black hole games.
Spurs took 10 steps forward and one back. It's not a big deal. You could tell from the start no one was playing normally.
Coming from you that means -- well, pretty much nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by poop
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I pin it on the coach if there is no effort. Put in players that want to play. I can assure you, the Spurs have plenty that would love a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by EricB
Every available player played, didn't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by elbamba