Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
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Originally Posted by Randomguy, who asked
Do you have any first hand testimony of any of the actual conspirators?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Of course I don't. How could I.
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Originally Posted by Randomguy, who asked for the first time
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there *is* no hoax?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Face it. You shills look very silly when you duck the jacket ] issue.
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Originally Posted by Randomguy, who asked for the second time
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there *is* no hoax?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
You seem to be confusing the issue of the way the jacket ...
Don't just say it's zero-G without giving any explanation. They wouldn't just laugh you out of the debating hall for that response of yours. They'd throw you out.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, who asked for the THIRD time
...and yet, you keep ignoring my question.
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
The anomalies in the video and still pictures show it was a hoax.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking a fourth time
My question is simple, and is either a yes, or a no, not "look at my videos".
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[Some copied and pasted stuff about faked pictures that continues for serveral posts]
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[provably false video showing people who believe moon landings were faked actively make things up]
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
This [dust] issue is just too basic to obfuscate.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the fifth time
Too basic to obfuscate... like the fact you haven't presented any first hand accounts of someone involved in this massive hoax effort?
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
I've asked for opinions on photography forums and physics forums about Apollo and 9/11 anomalies...
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the sixth time
Still no answer to my basic question.
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the seventh time
Does that article have any first hand accounts? I noticed you didn't answer my question yet.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
mouse, ignoring the question again
still waiting for FatFreddy's lame comeback on this.
:wakeup
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
[a whole lot of not answering the question]
That's why he's able to continue; in his private life his friends probably don't know what he really does and he probably tells them that he knows Apollo was a hoax.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the eighth time
This simple question doesn't go away, just because you keep ignoring it.
It has only two possible answers. The fact that neither mouse, nor Cosmored can admit even the possibility their "moon landings were a hoax" theory is wrong says all you need to know.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[9-11, grassy knoll, etc]
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Chinese spacewalk bla bla bla.
Uh-huh. That didn't answer my question, as to why you and Cosmored can't find any first hand conspirators out of the tens of thousands that would have to be involved.
You still haven't answered the question.
It has only two possible answers. The fact that neither you, nor Cosmored can admit even the possibility their "moon landings were a hoax" theory is wrong says all anyone reading this need to know.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
RG continuing to beat down that tackling dummy like no other.
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
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Originally Posted by
Blake
RG continuing to beat down that tackling dummy like no other.
Large fonts always help.
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
Thanks for the support guys!
FatFreddy is still trying to sway those viewers who don't have the time to watch all of the videos.
Betamax, who wrote this...
http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co...ks-part-2.html
(excerpt)
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He says the astronauts air is provided in the tether cables!! He then says the astronaut is holding it down to stop it floating up!
The tethers have shape memory caused by them being wound on drums during manufacture. The only tendency the cable has in an unrestricted vacuum is to assume that curled position from being wound around a large drum. There are numerous examples where it makes this same movement in a horizontal vector in relation to the camera. Bunkum.
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...is a government shill who doesn't even believe his own arguments. I urge all of those viewers who don't have the time to watch all of the videos to at least watch the anomaly described above in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=NVbBFwdmldA
(3:40 time mark)
That the cables are buoyant is pretty clear. If you have time, watch the cables in this video at these time marks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM
Watch it at these time marks.
0:50
2:10
3:00
3:10
6:08
6:44
6:53
If the upward movement were caused by shape-memory, the cables would not only move upward when it's totally consistent with buoyancy. Fatfreddy uses the shill tactic of trying to sway with rhetoric those viewers and lurkers who don't have the time to actually examine the evidence being discussed.
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Thanks for the support guys!
They're being sarcastic, you twit. They think you are an idiot too.
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
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Originally Posted by Randomguy, who asked
Do you have any first hand testimony of any of the actual conspirators?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Of course I don't. How could I.
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Originally Posted by Randomguy, who asked for the first time
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there *is* no hoax?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Face it. You shills look very silly when you duck the jacket ] issue.
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Originally Posted by Randomguy, who asked for the second time
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there *is* no hoax?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
You seem to be confusing the issue of the way the jacket ...
Don't just say it's zero-G without giving any explanation. They wouldn't just laugh you out of the debating hall for that response of yours. They'd throw you out.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, who asked for the THIRD time
...and yet, you keep ignoring my question.
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
The anomalies in the video and still pictures show it was a hoax.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking a fourth time
My question is simple, and is either a yes, or a no, not "look at my videos".
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[Some copied and pasted stuff about faked pictures that continues for serveral posts]
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[provably false video showing people who believe moon landings were faked actively make things up]
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
This [dust] issue is just too basic to obfuscate.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the fifth time
Too basic to obfuscate... like the fact you haven't presented any first hand accounts of someone involved in this massive hoax effort?
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
I've asked for opinions on photography forums and physics forums about Apollo and 9/11 anomalies...
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the sixth time
Still no answer to my basic question.
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the seventh time
Does that article have any first hand accounts? I noticed you didn't answer my question yet.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
mouse, ignoring the question again
still waiting for FatFreddy's lame comeback on this.
:wakeup
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
[a whole lot of not answering the question]
That's why he's able to continue; in his private life his friends probably don't know what he really does and he probably tells them that he knows Apollo was a hoax.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the eighth time
This simple question doesn't go away, just because you keep ignoring it.
It has only two possible answers. The fact that neither mouse, nor Cosmored can admit even the possibility their "moon landings were a hoax" theory is wrong says all you need to know.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[9-11, grassy knoll, etc]
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Chinese spacewalk bla bla bla.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, who asked for the ninth time
Uh-huh. That didn't answer my question, as to why you and Cosmored can't find any first hand conspirators out of the tens of thousands that would have to be involved.
You still haven't answered the question.
It has only two possible answers. The fact that neither you, nor Cosmored can admit even the possibility their "moon landings were a hoax" theory is wrong says all anyone reading this need to know.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Thanks for the support guys!
[here are some more spammed links, but no answer to RG's question].
You still haven't answered the question.
It has only two possible answers. The fact that neither you, nor mouse can admit even the possibility their "moon landings were a hoax" theory is wrong says all anyone reading this need to know.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy
Why has no one who has designed satellites, who all used the same data tables and information regarding radiation that NASA does, figured out that this radiation is killing the satellites much faster than they are supposed to?
The data says that humans can survive exposure.
The principle danger of the Van Allen belts is high-energy protons, which are not that difficult to shield against. And the Apollo navigators plotted a course through the thinnest parts of the belts and arranged for the spacecraft to pass through them quickly, limiting the exposure.
The Van Allen belts span only about forty degrees of earth's latitude -- twenty degrees above and below the magnetic equator.
Yes, there is radiation. No, it is not fatal to humans exposed to the thinnest parts of it for short periods of time.
The question still stands, and your addition to the theory just added more people able to expose it easily.
If you are correct about the radiation, then why have no latter day engineers come forward to expose the hoax?
Show me some first hand testimony about this.
If you are incorrect about the radiation, the original question still stands:
Since we had the capability to go, why did we have to fake it?
It would have been easier to just go.
As for the jacket: I don't care.
You have no evidence to support your theory. That you don't understand a couple of seconds of some video clip is not proof of anything except your own inability to understand reality.
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
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Originally Posted by
Charlie Sheen
This guy's a nut job. I'll put money that this dude shows up on the news one day for doing something horrific.
And that's how we'll now that he was right. The government wouldn't frame him for killing a bunch of nuns or something unless he was really onto the truth.
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[debunked video]
Hey mouse, do you have any phsyical evidence of this fakery other than debunked videos?
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[debunked video]
The guy who put that video together came out and admitted it was a fabrication. Do you have anything else?
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[debunked video]
Gee, that's interesting, but it doesn't really tell me how the rocks were faked well enough to fool tens of thousands of geologists.
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Originally Posted by Cosmojacket
jacket!!
Two seconds in a video is nice and all, but do you have any accounts from one of the thousands of conspirators?
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Originally Posted by Cosmojacket
jacket!!
Um, ok. That really isn't a first hand account, do you have anything that might tell us how the hundreds of pounds of rocks might be faked?
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Originally Posted by Cosmojacket
Robots!!
Uh-huh. 1960's-era Robotic probes didn't even have microprocessors and weren't really capable of snagging hundreds of pounds of rocks. They could manage, at best, a few ounces at a time. Do you have any blueprints or something that might show how this was done?
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Originally Posted by Cosmojacket
jacket!!
Oh. Gee, well if you don't have that, can you tell me how these probes got to the moon without the world noticing?
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Originally Posted by Cosmojacket
jacket!!
I sense a pattern here, but let's keep going. Do you have any leaked Russian documents talking about the USSR's duplicity in not letting the cat out of the bag? When the USSR collapsed, hundreds of thousands of Cold War era documents leaked, spies talked, and all sorts of things came out. Surely ONE person involved in the greatest cover-up of all time came forth?
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Originally Posted by Cosmojacket
Goon squads!!
Hmmm. That kind of compounds the problem of explaining why no one came forward, doesn't it? Because all you would then need is one enforcer to have a crisis of conscience and say "I threatened these people who might have told the truth..." You don't have any testimony from THIS group of people, either do you?
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Originally Posted by Cosmojacket
jacket!!
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[debunked video]
Hmmm, Neither of you have really answered any of my questions.
So let me get this straight. Somehow, this conspiracy was so dumb as to release thousands of pictures, and hundreds of hours of video when they could have just severely limited either so as to limit their potential exposure, but smart and capable enough to intimidate and bury every single possible leak from the TENS OF THOUSANDS of people who could have, at any time, blown the whole thing wide open?
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Originally Posted by Cosmojacket
jacket!!
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[debunked video]
:rolleyes
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy
Let's sum up the thread, now that we are 80 pages into this exercise in stubbornness.
Cosmored has some videos with anomolies he doesn't understand.
He then has made dozens of assertions, based on the theory that the things he doesn't understand in the videos he posts actually mean that those videos and photographs are faked, because the entire Apollo program, and all subsequent space programs are all hoaxes.
To support this theory he has nothing but provably false logic and hand-waving.
He has provided no evidence outside these videos.
He has no evidence that the hundreds of pounds of rocks are fake.
He has no evidence that the hundreds of pounds of rocks, if not fake, how they were brought back, if not by the Apollo missions.
He has no evidence showing how the videos or photos were faked.
He has no first-hand testimony of any one of the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people who would have to be involved in creating the hoax and covering it up.
Everytime that he is asked about any hard evidence of this massive undertaking, he simply retreats to long ago debunked minutae of things he doesn't understand.
Mouse, for his part has joined the "I don't understand the video" bandwagon.
Both have allowed themselves to be lied to, because of a desperate desire to BELIEVE in the fantastic conspiracy theory in which hundreds of thousands of people all worked to hoax and/or cover up. I say this because some of what they have presented as "evidence" of fakery has been quite literally manufactured by hoax believers themselves, and provably so, as has been seen here, if you care to plumb the depths of the swamp of the last 80 pages.
We are now 120 pages and two-three years in.
Still no smoking gun deathbed confessions.
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
Let's sum up Cosmored's performance in this "debate"
The following posts are where I ask for any direct evidence of various claims made by Cosmored, and no such evidence was supplied or where I directly pointed out the logical flaws (all ad hominem) in Cosmored's arguments:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=232
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=234
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=249
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=279
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=422
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=466
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=548
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=550
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=565
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=565
(one of my favorites, where Cosmored proves he is a sophist, as he claims I am):
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=603
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=627
Here is where Cosmored admits that he doesn't tend to watch things that rebut his own points:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=549
Here is one where I break down one of Cosmored's claims to find the underlying assumptions that essentially require modern physics to be wrong for ol' Cosmo to be right. This got a big round of ignore too:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=626
Here is where Cosmored applies different standards of evidence to people he agrees with than to anybody else (another reason he got banned from the other websites by the way)
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=634
Here is one that Cosmored has yet to speak to with something other than internet videos:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=635
I will not watch any further videos posted by Cosmored since he will not do the same for me. That is simply fair. If Cosmored wishes to post quick executive summaries of his videos, I will be happy to address them.
Lastly:
What we have here is a rather standard pattern of "argument" by Cosmored.
1) Dismiss sources using the logical "ad hominem" logical fallacy.
2) Make claims, but fail to provide direct proof of those assertions when repeatedly asked.
Both of which would get you laughed out of any debating hall.
Rules of debate:
http://www.triviumpursuit.com/speech..._is_debate.htm
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Rule 5a. He who asserts must prove.
Rule 5b. In order to establish an assertion, the team must support it with enough evidence and logic to convince an intelligent but previously uninformed person that it is more reasonable to believe the assertion than to disbelieve it.
http://ontology.buffalo.edu/smith/co...EBATERULES.htm
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Do not use ad hominem arguments.
Word.
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
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Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
The evidence in post #1 of this thread shows that there was a hoax. I keep reposting the info in post #1090 to thwart your efforts to bury it. Here it is again.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...postcount=1090
The info there addresses all of the issues such as why we never read that someone has come forward, etc.
This is really a war between the truthers who are trying to get the evidence out there for people to see and the disinfo agents who are trying to bury it with BS to reduce the number of people who see it.
http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums...pic.php?t=1222
:lol "addressed it"
The big bad conspiracy is incompetant when it comes to not being smart enough to fake hundreds of hours of video and photos, but really competant when it comes to covering it up so well, that internet warriors like youself don't spam the shit out of the first deathbed "confession" of one of the tens of thousands of conspirators.
If they were that competant, they would have simply not put out much footage if at all. Easier to fake a small amount of footage than a large amount.
The very volume of photos and footage works against your fucktarded theory.
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
The final thing is that I have not only admitted the possibility of the moon landings being hoaxed, I attempted to show what would be required to pull it off. Neither mouse, nor Cosmored has EVER gone this far.
Unfortunately for Cosmored, when you actually build a theory based on what he is attempting to show, it becomes REALLY obvious how bad the operating assumptions he is starting with really are.
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Bla bla bla, jacket, bla bla bla jacket bla bla bla
As for the videos:
Wake me up when you get someone directly involved in the hoax to come forward.
or
When you can adequately explain how NASA was able to fake 800+ pounds of moon rocks well enough to fool tens of thousands of geologists for 40 years.
Until then, the "I don't understand the video/photo footage" schtick got old, the first 999,999 times it got debunked.
The following assumptions are completely required for the ultimate "moon landings were faked" theory to be true:
1-The photos are all faked.
and
2-The videos are all faked.
and
3-Several people faked the photos and kept that secret.
and
4-Several people faked the videos and kept that a secret.
and
5-The physical evidence, i.e. rock and soil samples are all faked or were retrieved using robotic missions.
and
6-A large group of people faked the rock and soil samples and kept that a secret.
and
7- It was possible with 1960's era technology to fake hundreds of pounds of rocks and soil to make it appear to have come from the moon or it was possible with 1960's era technology to secretly bring back hundreds of pounds of soil.
and
8- Several people organized and coordinated these seperate processes and they kept secret.
and
9- All of the astronauts are lying and in on the conspriracy.
and
10- All of the telemetry and systems data coming into the consoles at mission control were faked 24 hours a day for the duration of the missions in a manner good enough to deceive hundreds of NASA technicians, or the hundreds of NASA technicians were all in on it.
and
11-All of the thousands of people who have studied the samples brought back and all of the people doing peer-review on the scientific papers were either fooled by the perfectly faked rocks or in on it too.
and
12- All of the radio buffs, amateur astronomers and other non-govermental witnesses to the signals and spacecraft in flight didn't notice any anomolies, and/or kept quiet about it
and
13- The Soviet Union actively participated in the hoax, and all the radar/radio technicians, astronomers, etc. that might have been able to figure out that the US was faking the multiple flights were told to be quiet.
and
14- Everybody told to be quiet has kept quiet even on their deathbed or every single one of the confessions has been covered up. (this includes the geologists studying the faked samples too)
and
15- The people assinged to monitor and/or threaten everybody who had first hand knowledge of this also keep quiet.
and
16- The pictures from subsequent missions to the moon in which clear pictures of the landing sites showing artifacts exactly as NASA claims happened are faked.
and
17- The people that worked in all the subsequent missions were either duped by these faked pictures being snuck into the data streams, or in on the conspiracy too.
and
18-The range-finding reflective dishes on the moon were placed by secret robotic missions.
and
19- These secret 1960's era robots placed these reflectors more accurately than any other robotic missions did at the time.
and
20- All of the people who built and tested the rockets and other equipment were either duped or were in on it too.
The above series of "and" statements would adequately provide all the available evidence.
Therein lies the problem.
If ANY one thing in this long "and" statement is false, the whole thing is logically false.
This actually isn't enough for some of the conspiracy theorists.
They add to this a few things that aren't really quite necessary to fake the moon landings:
21-Radiation above low earth orbit is so intense it will fry a human being who is exposed to it for even a short time.
and
22- All the data concerning that radiation is faked, showing that radiation levels are low enough for a human to survive.
and
23- Everybody who has designed electronics for satellites that uses this faked data didn't notice that their equipment was failing at much higher rates than it should have.
The weakest links of course are the facts that no one has ever come forward to admit they actively took part in the faking/coverup, and that the most tangible evidence, namely the rocks, has been exhaustively studied for 40 years.
Next to those gaping holes, another "I don't understand the video footage" youtube video is just another stone on the fail pile.
Every single one of that big list has to be true in order for your theory to hold up. If even one link is broken, it falls apart like tissue paper in rain.
You have as of yet, Cosmored, not provided a shred of proof of most of these assertions.
I want to see the design for the "robotic probes". I want first-hand testimony of ANYBODY involved in the hoax or coverup.
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
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Originally Posted by
Charlie Sheen
Sorry to be the simple one here but I think Cosmored has made Randomguy fall off the edge too. Don't fight Crazy RG it's pointless.
Heh, I stopped fighting this a while back. There is no effort in copy/paste.
I stopped clicking on the links or watching the videos literally over a year ago because it was obvious that nothing new was being presented.
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Wake me up when you get someone directly involved in the hoax to come forward.
or
When you can adequately explain how NASA was able to fake 800+ pounds of moon rocks well enough to fool tens of thousands of geologists for 40 years.
RandomGuy keeps ignoring the post that addresses these issues because he wants the new viewers and lurkers to think they haven't been addressed. I finally just added the link to post #1 to thwart his efforts to bury it but here it is anyway.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...postcount=1090
Here's the stuff about the rocks from post #1 that he keeps ignoring too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSIlgQhUi9A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AQQHTjeMkA
http://www.geschichteinchronologie.c...arth-ENGL.html
http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...Revisited&aq=f
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
RandomGuy keeps picking on me because I am an ignorant shit. The post that I think addresses these issues is actually a mound of Jarrah White's turd. White isn't a geologist but presumes to lecture everybody on his findings.
:lmao:lmao:lmao
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he wants the new viewers and lurkers to think they haven't been addressed. I finally just added the link to post #1 to thwart his efforts to bury it but here it is anyway.
What lurkers and new viewers? You hapless cretin.:bang:bang:bang
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Here's the stuff about the rocks from previous replies that I keep ignoring because I am so stupid, I don't know how stupid I am.
http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/apollo-moon-rocks-part-1.html
http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/apollo-moon-rocks-part-2.html
http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/apollo-moon-rocks-part-3.html
http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/apollo-moon-rocks-part-4.html
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/226...iditburnsy.jpg
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8498/twatmored.png :blah:rollin:blah
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
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Originally Posted by
Blake
Cosmorowned!
Oddly enough, the links Cosmored supplied have given me a pretty good clue to his ultimate identity.
One of the comments in the videos said of the MoonFaker guy "Jarrah White", that all he does to "argue" is wave his hands and say "it's plausible".
This little tic is consistant with Cosmored. Jarrah = Cosmored.
It is a tossup to me whether Fatfreddy is also the same guy. I don't think so, but it is a very distinct possibility.
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
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Originally Posted by Randomguy, who asked
Do you have any first hand testimony of any of the actual conspirators?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Of course I don't. How could I.
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Originally Posted by Randomguy, who asked for the first time
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there *is* no hoax?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Face it. You shills look very silly when you duck the jacket ] issue.
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Originally Posted by Randomguy, who asked for the second time
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there *is* no hoax?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
You seem to be confusing the issue of the way the jacket ...
Don't just say it's zero-G without giving any explanation. They wouldn't just laugh you out of the debating hall for that response of yours. They'd throw you out.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, who asked for the THIRD time
...and yet, you keep ignoring my question.
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
The anomalies in the video and still pictures show it was a hoax.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking a fourth time
My question is simple, and is either a yes, or a no, not "look at my videos".
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[Some copied and pasted stuff about faked pictures that continues for serveral posts]
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[provably false video showing people who believe moon landings were faked actively make things up]
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
This [dust] issue is just too basic to obfuscate.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the fifth time
Too basic to obfuscate... like the fact you haven't presented any first hand accounts of someone involved in this massive hoax effort?
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
I've asked for opinions on photography forums and physics forums about Apollo and 9/11 anomalies...
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the sixth time
Still no answer to my basic question.
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the seventh time
Does that article have any first hand accounts? I noticed you didn't answer my question yet.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
mouse, ignoring the question again
still waiting for FatFreddy's lame comeback on this.
:wakeup
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
[a whole lot of not answering the question]
That's why he's able to continue; in his private life his friends probably don't know what he really does and he probably tells them that he knows Apollo was a hoax.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the eighth time
This simple question doesn't go away, just because you keep ignoring it.
It has only two possible answers. The fact that neither mouse, nor Cosmored can admit even the possibility their "moon landings were a hoax" theory is wrong says all you need to know.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[9-11, grassy knoll, etc]
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Chinese spacewalk bla bla bla.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, who asked for the ninth time
Uh-huh. That didn't answer my question, as to why you and Cosmored can't find any first hand conspirators out of the tens of thousands that would have to be involved.
You still haven't answered the question.
It has only two possible answers. The fact that neither you, nor Cosmored can admit even the possibility their "moon landings were a hoax" theory is wrong says all anyone reading this need to know.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Thanks for the support guys!
[here are some more spammed links, but no answer to RG's question].
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, who asked the tenth time
You still haven't answered the question.
It has only two possible answers. The fact that neither you, nor mouse can admit even the possibility their "moon landings were a hoax" theory is wrong says all anyone reading this need to know.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
[obfuscating bullshit links, not one of which has any firsthand confessions from any of the hundreds of thousands of people who would have to be involved in a huge 60 year conspiracy to fake moon landings and all subsequent space travel and exploration]
Handwaving and obfuscation, Jarrah. I clicked on a few of the links and did manage to ferret out your real name.
Given that thens of thousands of geologists have studied NASA's lunar material, surely ONE of them was honest enough to come forward to say it was faked.
You have no first hand testimony from anyone involved in this huge plot still.
Yes or no, Jarrah, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
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Guys like this idiot Jarrah White are a dime-a-dozen and no matter what we say, they are not going to change their mind."
http://as204.blogspot.com/
Why Jarrah White Is Wrong About Apollo
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
What you pro-Apollo shills seem to be doing now is trying to bury this info about Jay Windley deep in the thread to reduce the number of people who see it.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...postcount=2957
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...postcount=2871
You're also trying to bury your lame responses to it because you looked like horses' a---s.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...postcount=3112
Jay Windley is the webmaster of the Clavius damage-control disinfo site.
http://www.clavius.org/about.html
There are some anomalies that are so clear that you pro-Apollo shills just end up looking like horses' a---s when you try to obfuscate them. Jay Windley won't even respond when I ask him about them.
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...&postcount=128
I'd say your success rate here is close to zero.
My username at the JREF forum is FatFreddy88. The shill using that name here chose that name to cause confusion.
Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio
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Originally Posted by Randomguy, who asked
Do you have any first hand testimony of any of the actual conspirators?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Of course I don't. How could I.
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Originally Posted by Randomguy, who asked for the first time
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there *is* no hoax?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Face it. You shills look very silly when you duck the jacket ] issue.
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Originally Posted by Randomguy, who asked for the second time
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there *is* no hoax?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
You seem to be confusing the issue of the way the jacket ...
Don't just say it's zero-G without giving any explanation. They wouldn't just laugh you out of the debating hall for that response of yours. They'd throw you out.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, who asked for the THIRD time
...and yet, you keep ignoring my question.
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
The anomalies in the video and still pictures show it was a hoax.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking a fourth time
My question is simple, and is either a yes, or a no, not "look at my videos".
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[Some copied and pasted stuff about faked pictures that continues for serveral posts]
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[provably false video showing people who believe moon landings were faked actively make things up]
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
This [dust] issue is just too basic to obfuscate.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the fifth time
Too basic to obfuscate... like the fact you haven't presented any first hand accounts of someone involved in this massive hoax effort?
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
I've asked for opinions on photography forums and physics forums about Apollo and 9/11 anomalies...
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the sixth time
Still no answer to my basic question.
Is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the seventh time
Does that article have any first hand accounts? I noticed you didn't answer my question yet.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
mouse, ignoring the question again
still waiting for FatFreddy's lame comeback on this.
:wakeup
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
[a whole lot of not answering the question]
That's why he's able to continue; in his private life his friends probably don't know what he really does and he probably tells them that he knows Apollo was a hoax.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking the eighth time
This simple question doesn't go away, just because you keep ignoring it.
It has only two possible answers. The fact that neither mouse, nor Cosmored can admit even the possibility their "moon landings were a hoax" theory is wrong says all you need to know.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
mouse
[9-11, grassy knoll, etc]
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Chinese spacewalk bla bla bla.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, who asked for the ninth time
Uh-huh. That didn't answer my question, as to why you and Cosmored can't find any first hand conspirators out of the tens of thousands that would have to be involved.
You still haven't answered the question.
It has only two possible answers. The fact that neither you, nor Cosmored can admit even the possibility their "moon landings were a hoax" theory is wrong says all anyone reading this need to know.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
Thanks for the support guys!
[here are some more spammed links, but no answer to RG's question].
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, who asked the tenth time
You still haven't answered the question.
It has only two possible answers. The fact that neither you, nor mouse can admit even the possibility their "moon landings were a hoax" theory is wrong says all anyone reading this need to know.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
[obfuscating bullshit links, not one of which has any firsthand confessions from any of the hundreds of thousands of people who would have to be involved in a huge 60 year conspiracy to fake moon landings and all subsequent space travel and exploration]
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy, asking for the ELEVENTH time
Handwaving and obfuscation. Given that thens of thousands of geologists have studied NASA's lunar material, surely ONE of them was honest enough to come forward to say it was faked.
You have no first hand testimony from anyone involved in this huge plot still.
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
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Originally Posted by
Cosmored
What you pro-Apollo shills seem to be doing now is trying... [still no confessions from any of the hundreds of thousands of people that would have been required to perpetuate a 60 year conspiracy to fake all human space travel].
You still haven't answered the question.
It has only two possible answers. The fact that neither you, nor mouse can admit even the possibility their "moon landings were a hoax" theory is wrong says all anyone reading this need to know.
You have no first hand testimony from anyone involved in this huge plot yet?
Yes or no, is it possible there is no testimony from hoax conspirators because there is *no hoax*?
